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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    What a waste.

    She may be too far gone now to really resurrect her career or her image. If she doesn't take responsibility for her own life (including responsibility for DUI -- and taking the punishment for it) we're going to read her obit real soon... and it will not be good.
    But that's the problem. She is not being punished for her DUI. A couple weeks at the "Betty Ford Country Club" is not punishment. Hard core prison time IS punishment. I have all the sympathy in the world for people with drug and alcohol addictions. I understand that such addictions are not anticipated. No addict ever imagined he/she will ever become one until it happens. As long as they take responsibility for their addictions I say give them all the help and support they need and understand that even after that help and support they may slip back. And that is the time where we need to give them all the more help and support. I have no problem with helping the addicted to survive in life.

    But, where I draw the line is with DUI. Once you drive drunk my sympathy and support fades fast. I have no tolerance for drunk drivers. Perhaps she needs addiction rehab. By all means give it to her. But she also needs a good long stint in jail for the crime of DUI.. There are prisons that offer drug and alcohol detox and rehab. She can be punished and rehab'ed in one shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post
    But that's the problem. She is not being punished for her DUI. A couple weeks at the "Betty Ford Country Club" is not punishment. Hard core prison time IS punishment. I have all the sympathy in the world for people with drug and alcohol addictions. I understand that such addictions are not anticipated. No addict ever imagined he/she will ever become one until it happens. As long as they take responsibility for their addictions I say give them all the help and support they need and understand that even after that help and support they may slip back. And that is the time where we need to give them all the more help and support. I have no problem with helping the addicted to survive in life.

    But, where I draw the line is with DUI. Once you drive drunk my sympathy and support fades fast. I have no tolerance for drunk drivers. Perhaps she needs addiction rehab. By all means give it to her. But she also needs a good long stint in jail for the crime of DUI.. There are prisons that offer drug and alcohol detox and rehab. She can be punished and rehab'ed in one shot.
    She is not being punished, period. Oh sure, she had a token jail term or two, and a visit to Betty Ford or three, but she really hasn't been punished, let alone learned her lesson.

    I'm not asking you to be tolerant of drunk drivers. Heaven forbid. Sorry if I implied that.

    I am saying that until and unless she grows up and takes responsibility -- and that includes accepting punishment, and I mean real punishment -- she will not change.

    That her parents and other sycophants enabled and encouraged this bad behavior is and of itself bad (too put it mildly), but that is not an excuse. That's like blaming the candy store for your weight problem because they sell candy... they may have provided the opportunity, but you still ate the stuff. An adult ought to know better.

    And now that she's broke, with no income in the forseeable future, and a career damaged and possibly ruined beyond repair (at least she's not at the Mel Gibson level -- yet), she'd better wise up and fast for her own sake. The sycophants will soon be gone if they're not already, and she'll have nothing. At best, we'll read about her as the next Randy Quaid (as in being arrested as a squatter with no place to go). At worst...
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    Quote Originally Posted by W3WN View Post
    She is not being punished, period. Oh sure, she had a token jail term or two, and a visit to Betty Ford or three, but she really hasn't been punished, let alone learned her lesson.
    Which is why it is time for a harsh punishment.

    I'm not asking you to be tolerant of drunk drivers. Heaven forbid. Sorry if I implied that.
    No, you didn't imply that at all :)

    I am saying that until and unless she grows up and takes responsibility -- and that includes accepting punishment, and I mean real punishment -- she will not change.
    Which is why I feel that some hard prison time would be the best thing. Let her serve a 10 or 20 year stretch in a tough prison. It will do her some good.

    That her parents and other sycophants enabled and encouraged this bad behavior is and of itself bad (too put it mildly), but that is not an excuse. That's like blaming the candy store for your weight problem because they sell candy... they may have provided the opportunity, but you still ate the stuff. An adult ought to know better.
    Right. But my main concern is her irresponsibility to society. If she wants to party and get drunk and party okay... its her life. But, once she gets behind the wheel all bets are off.

    And now that she's broke, with no income in the forseeable future, and a career damaged and possibly ruined beyond repair (at least she's not at the Mel Gibson level -- yet), she'd better wise up and fast for her own sake. The sycophants will soon be gone if they're not already, and she'll have nothing. At best, we'll read about her as the next Randy Quaid (as in being arrested as a squatter with no place to go). At worst...
    I would be sympathetic if she didn't DUI. But once a person crosses that line I lose all respect for them. Give her her alcohol/drug rehab. But also give her a severe prison sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n2ize View Post

    Which is why I feel that some hard prison time would be the best thing. Let her serve a 10 or 20 year stretch in a tough prison. It will do her some good.
    10 TO 20 for DUI? Even your evil conservative persona has to realize that's harsh.

    Right. But my main concern is her irresponsibility to society. If she wants to party and get drunk and party okay... its her life. But, once she gets behind the wheel all bets are off.
    You're missing the point. She's obviously got issues, which need to be addressed, just like most people in the penal system. Locking them up without help accomplishes nothing.


    I would be sympathetic if she didn't DUI. But once a person crosses that line I lose all respect for them. Give her her alcohol/drug rehab. But also give her a severe prison sentence.
    Did she hurt anyone? No. QED.

    She's 24 years old, for goshsakes. We criminalize half of NYC for silly drug crimes every damn day. That's wrong. How is the Lohan situation any different?
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    Here's a match made in heaven for her. This guy's wealthy lifestyle makes Lilo look like Little Bo Peep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by W1GUH View Post
    Here's a match made in heaven for her. This guy's wealthy lifestyle makes Lilo look like Little Bo Peep!
    Anyone who watches Two & A Half Men knows he's just method acting. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by W4GPL View Post
    Anyone who watches Two & A Half Men knows he's just method acting. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by W4GPL View Post
    Anyone who watches Two & A Half Men knows he's just method acting. :)
    Did I read that right? Highest paid actor on TV at $1.4 mil an episode? Daymmmm. He ain't that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kf0rt View Post
    Did I read that right? Highest paid actor on TV at $1.4 mil an episode? Daymmmm. He ain't that good.
    He doesn't have to be good. He just has to get enough of the right people (ie the right demographics) to watch.
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