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    So, I've got this headset...

    ... that I got from my "Mil surplus" storage unit (ie, my closet of stuff I haven't touched since I left the service in 2004).

    I happened across lots of goodies. A 12V power supply, a 3-30MHz WSR/Power meter, etc. But, what caught my eye is my old aviation headset.

    This is the data sheet on it: http://www.wbparts.com/rfq/5965-01-121-2319.html

    I remember wearing that thing for 14 hours a day on end. Comfortable as all hell. But, the question is: Can I use this on my rigs now?

    It has a 1/4" TRRS connector. I assume this is a somewhat "standard" plug in aviation. Any tips? How do I wire this thing up? Will it work ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2UGV View Post
    But, the question is: Can I use this on my rigs now?

    It has a 1/4" TRRS connector. I assume this is a somewhat "standard" plug in aviation. Any tips? How do I wire this thing up? Will it work ok?
    There was an article on using aviation headsets in a QST magazine a few months back. I remember it because I have a pair of David Clarks that I'd like to use in my station. According to the article, it's doable with a bit of extra circuitry. I'll try and find it and scan the schematic for you.
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    Just wire it up to whatever plug is needed, most headphone/speaker jacks will work FB from 4-16 ohms. Unless it's wired weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WØTKX View Post
    Just wire it up to whatever plug is needed, most headphone/speaker jacks will work FB from 4-16 ohms. Unless it's wired weird.
    As I recall, aviation headsets are high-impedence. 600 ohms, I think, although I could be wrong about the actual number.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    As I recall, aviation headsets are high-impedence. 600 ohms, I think, although I could be wrong about the actual number.
    I'd look for a simple transformer or op amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4CGC View Post
    I'd look for a simple transformer or op amp.
    The circuit I was thinking about used an op amp.
    All the world’s a stage, but obviously the play is unrehearsed and everybody is ad-libbing his lines. Maybe that’s why it’s hard to tell if we’re living in a tragedy or a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ6BSO View Post
    The circuit I was thinking about used an op amp.
    Good call!
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    No need for fancy stuff, transistors being current devices easily tolerate high impedance loads, even no load won't trouble it. In other words a 600 ohm headset will work just fine, my vintage B-29 headset does. Oh, they hate very low impedance loads being Ohm's Law takes over and excessive current overheats them and POOF, bye bye output stage, the chip is toast.
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    I use a David Clark Helicopter headset with my Yahoo 857.
    Replaced the 4 conductor phone plug with a 1/4" TRS.

    Earphones work fine with whatever impedance match/mismatch there might be.

    The 5 ohm dynamic mic is a little whimpy. I got it to work well with a RatShack
    audio transformer which is normally 1000 ohm CT, 8 ohm secondary. I reversed
    it and used half of the CT to allow the 8 ohm side to marry the 5 ohm dynamic
    element, and the 500 ohm side (1000 ohm CT) to marry the 600 ohm input to the radio.

    Even though that worked great, I put a cheap elec condensor mic element
    on the surface of the existing headset mic and ran that to a little preamp
    to give the condensor some bias. That setup works fabulously. The mic
    element is simply held in place by the foam and leather bits on the "Phoenix"
    noise reduction parts. And instead of that heavily compressed, close
    mic "aviation sound" I get a great, full range, audio Hi Fi sound on
    HF and VHF.

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    Yup, I read 5 Ohms, from the spec sheet.

    IMPEDANCE RATING 5.0 OHMS NOMINAL
    You could make measurements, and stuff... http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/headphone_impedance.htm
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