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    Hollow Point Bullets Recalled That Don't Explode In Targets

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    Hmmmm, They recall a brand of bullet that doesn't expand properly,BUT wasn't a brand (Black Talon?) taken off the market for being too good? something about being able to penetrate police vests and expand into virtually a spinning razor blade?......
    They just can't seem to get it right from one extreme to the other.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by kd8dey View Post
    Hmmmm, They recall a brand of bullet that doesn't expand properly,BUT wasn't a brand (Black Talon?) taken off the market for being too good? something about being able to penetrate police vests and expand into virtually a spinning razor blade?......
    They just can't seem to get it right from one extreme to the other.......
    I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.

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    We can buy the talon bullets here, no need for it actually..
    Still have 4000 Winchester silvertips for the Desert Eagle/S&W 686.
    And a few 1000 full metal jacket flat point in .357 M.
    Lead bullets i pour myself here for the M1 Carbine, hard letter lead also for the S&W revolver.

    Our paper targets don't shoot back, annoyingly....;)
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    Wiki to the rescue --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon

    Winchester voluntarily pulled the ammunition from the market completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold today by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, the running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kf0rt View Post
    I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.
    Wish I could help, but I am ignorant of most of those types of loads. Hardball .45ACP, 185 Nosler JHP target and 200 lead SWC target loads are about all I would shoot for target, and my personal preference for a defensive handgun has always been a revolver -- I favor the 2.5" Colt Diamondback in .38 S&W Special, either 158 RN lead or a frangible HP for use indoors.

    Nowadays I shoot the .22 rimfire almost exclusively in outdoor bullseye competition.
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    I agree with the video. When you shoot to kill you want a bullet that has some true killing power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kf0rt View Post
    I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.
    I have an unopened box of 9mm Black Talon.
    Last edited by kc7jty; 10-03-2010 at 07:10 PM.

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    Hello.

    What you do is buy a package of hollow point rounds (bullets) and a package of cleats (spikes) for running shoes as well as the correct size and thread tap.
    Thread the bullets and screw the cleats in.
    Fire this at something.
    The bullet proper provides the mass needed to punch that small piece of steel through a lot of stuff.
    Try is, it costs so little to produce a dozen or so rounds.

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