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    Compact vertical- Suggest a model or design

    Been surveying the new digs and am thinking of setting up a ham shack in the garage or up in the loft in the bedroom.

    Been looking at running a simple dipole, but those darn power lines look like they are going to get in the way of that plan. So I am probably going to go with a vertical.

    I have only run wire in the past, so verticals are new territory for me. Anyone use a particular model or home brew that works well? Looking to operate 10-80 meters.
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    Hustler 6BTV.

    Get the base elevated to around 30ft, use four tuned radials per band and you'll like the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N8YX View Post
    Hustler 6BTV.

    Get the base elevated to around 30ft, use four tuned radials per band and you'll like the results.
    Butternut HF-6 or HF-9.

    Elevate to 10-15 feet. Use 2 tuned radials per band. Instructions included with the Butternut is a method to use 300 twin lead to make a 4-band radial.

    Less work and you can use the antenna with a tuner outside the 2:1 SWR points. If you try that with the BTV, expect to pop the traps, even with 100 watts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ3N View Post
    Less work and you can use the antenna with a tuner outside the 2:1 SWR points. If you try that with the BTV, expect to pop the traps, even with 100 watts.
    I've put over a kilowatt through mine outside the 2:1 points and they still work.
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    Butternuts work well for friends of mine, some run high power, all move around with a tuner. I also recommend Butternuts, unless you want to home brew. Have an HF2V with the 160 meter kit, (cheap used one) that I hope to have up for winter. 160/80/40. Have a Gap Titan, got it cheap... it's pretty decent on 30 meters and up, OK on 40, and a mildly radiating dummy load on 80. The 80 meter doublet works the low bands better.

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    example, informative site. He later upgraded to an SGC autotuner at the base. If you have a lot of wire, start laying radials down now.

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    Soil up here is highly mineralized.

    I can mount on the roof which is some 20 feet or so up. I really need to measure the place and see how much room I have and if it would be possible to use a G5RV or similar without getting near the power lines. This is an older neighborhood and the power is still up on poles rather than buried. Plus having power lines above ground has obvious advantages during the winter months. Saves the company time not having to thaw the ground.

    A vertical would really be easier than fussing with the power lines.....
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    I'd stick with the vertical, most of the world is DX for you. How's the ground clutter?
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