Microsoft Hijacked My Computer

I went through this update process (from 1803) to Win 10-"1903", it took like an hour with multiple restarts, when it was over, I had to restart my PC and log back in.

Upon logging back in, I was sent to a "Temporary platform" without access to any of my usual Desktop activities; anything that I created would not be saved when I logged out was the prompt that I received. I was prompted to log back in to fix the problem so, I logged back in to my LIVE, account at outlook and *my* computer came home to me.

My Win 10 computer is nothing more that a dumb-terminal / Client with storage; without the permission of Microsoft, I cannot use my computer or the Windows software that I purchased.

I downplayed the fact that the same desktop shows up on both of my Win-10 computers; what happened to local machines?

Check this out:

C:\WINDOWS\system32>Netstat -ab

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
RpcSs
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:554 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
[wmpnetwk.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:2869 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:5040 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
CDPSvc
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:5357 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:10243 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:49664 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
[lsass.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49665 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:49666 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
EventLog
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49667 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Schedule
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49668 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
[spoolsv.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49672 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
PolicyAgent
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49692 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61521 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61535 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61555 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61575 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61588 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:2869 Toshiba-PC:61605 TIME_WAIT
TCP 127.0.0.1:5938 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
[chrome.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:43227 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 192.168.0.10:139 Toshiba-PC:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 192.168.0.10:50109 c2webresolver1:http CLOSE_WAIT
[PSANHost.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:50344 72.21.91.29:http CLOSE_WAIT
[WinStore.App.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:58000 74.125.124.188:5228 ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:58908 ord30s25-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:59043 ord38s01-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:59068 ord38s04-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:59354 52.242.211.89:https ESTABLISHED
WpnService
[svchost.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:60010 52.242.211.89:https ESTABLISHED
[OneDrive.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61115 52.96.15.178:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61250 ord37s08-in-f10:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61343 lga15s46-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61408 ord38s08-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61427 192.0.73.2:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61428 ord37s09-in-f14:https ESTABLISHED
[chrome.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61442 c2webresolver1:http CLOSE_WAIT
[PSANHost.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61492 server-99-84-170-223:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61493 168.143.243.222:https CLOSE_WAIT
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.0.10:61512 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61513 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61514 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61515 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61516 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61518 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61520 HDMI-PC:64778 TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61525 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61526 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61528 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61529 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61530 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61531 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61532 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61533 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61541 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61542 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61543 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61544 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61546 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61547 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61548 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61549 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61551 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61552 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61554 HDMI-PC:64778 TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61559 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61560 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61562 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61563 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.0.10:61564 173.194.162.42:https TIME_WAIT
^C
C:\WINDOWS\system32>

All these active connections running in the background! WTF?

BTW, I don't see anything running on Port 80.

EEK! WTF is right. Micro$haft has a bad habit of sending bad updates and it looks like this is one. Certain apps need access to the Internet, otherwise a machine should have NO open ports, it's called stealth mode. Hackers run a port scan and if they find one open it's a doorway for mayhem. But then you know that, maybe you know about Shields Up! that reveals any open ports too. I make monthly full backups (C primary & D data volume) as the court of last resort for Murphy's brother Justin Case should System restore fail or some other cat ass trophy occur. How about you? I'd back out of that creepy mess ASAP.

https://www.safer-networking.org/pro...t-anti-beacon/

Scroll to the bottom and click Download.

Payment is optional, but you get more blocking options with the paid version.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netstat -ab

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 a:0 LISTENING
RpcSs
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:3389 a:0 LISTENING
TermService
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:5040 a:0 LISTENING
CDPSvc
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:5357 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:49664 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:49665 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 0.0.0.0:49666 a:0 LISTENING
EventLog
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49667 a:0 LISTENING
Schedule
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49668 a:0 LISTENING
SessionEnv
[svchost.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49669 a:0 LISTENING
[spoolsv.exe]
TCP 0.0.0.0:49672 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 a:0 LISTENING
[mDNSResponder.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:49670 ESTABLISHED
[mDNSResponder.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:49671 ESTABLISHED
[mDNSResponder.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:5939 a:0 LISTENING
[TeamViewer_Service.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:12025 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12110 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12119 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12143 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12465 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12563 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12993 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:12995 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:27015 a:0 LISTENING
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:27015 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:49819 ESTABLISHED
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:27275 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 127.0.0.1:49670 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:5354 ESTABLISHED
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:49671 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:5354 ESTABLISHED
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:49819 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:27015 ESTABLISHED
[iTunesHelper.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50508 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50509 ESTABLISHED
[thunderbird.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50509 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50508 ESTABLISHED
[thunderbird.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50574 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50575 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50575 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50574 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50576 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50577 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50577 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50576 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50578 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50579 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50579 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50578 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50584 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50585 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50585 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50584 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50611 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50612 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50612 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50611 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50788 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50789 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:50789 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:50788 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:52461 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:52462 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:52462 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:52461 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:52695 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:52696 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 127.0.0.1:52696 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:52695 ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:139 a:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 192.168.1.196:50559 nyc04-008:http ESTABLISHED
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 192.168.1.196:50583 ec2-34-214-1-68:https ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:50783 edge-star-mini-shv-01-lga3:https ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:50808 edge-star-shv-01-iad3:https ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52016 edge-star-shv-01-iad3:https ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52453 52.230.222.68:https ESTABLISHED
WpnService
[svchost.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52732 NAS4FREE:microsoft-ds ESTABLISHED
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP 192.168.1.196:52805 web:https TIME_WAIT
TCP 192.168.1.196:52807 web:https ESTABLISHED
[firefox.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52810 13.107.21.200:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52811 13.107.6.254:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52812 13.107.3.254:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52813 72.21.81.200:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP 192.168.1.196:52814 204.79.197.222:https ESTABLISHED
[SearchUI.exe]
TCP [::]:135 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
RpcSs
[svchost.exe]
TCP [::]:445 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::]:3389 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
TermService
[svchost.exe]
TCP [::]:5357 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::]:49664 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::]:49665 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::]:49666 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
EventLog
[svchost.exe]
TCP [::]:49667 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Schedule
[svchost.exe]
TCP [::]:49668 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
SessionEnv
[svchost.exe]
TCP [::]:49669 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
[spoolsv.exe]
TCP [::]:49672 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12025 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12110 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12119 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12143 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12465 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12563 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12993 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:12995 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [::1]:27275 DESKTOP-72MSHMQ:0 LISTENING
Can not obtain ownership information
TCP [fe80::b9ac:236a:42d2:c90d%9]:52806 denise-PC:wsd TIME_WAIT
TCP [fe80::b9ac:236a:42d2:c90d%9]:52808 denise-PC:wsd TIME_WAIT
UDP 0.0.0.0:123 *:*
W32Time
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:3389 *:*
TermService
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:3702 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:5050 *:*
CDPSvc
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:5353 *:*
Dnscache
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:5355 *:*
Dnscache
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:49705 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:60462 *:*
[TeamViewer_Service.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:60464 *:*
[spoolsv.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:60888 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:60891 *:*
[mDNSResponder.exe]
UDP 0.0.0.0:60899 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:1900 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:60890 *:*
iphlpsvc
[svchost.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:60893 *:*
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:60894 *:*
[AppleMobileDeviceService.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:60902 *:*
[iTunesHelper.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:60903 *:*
[iTunesHelper.exe]
UDP 127.0.0.1:61595 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP 192.168.1.196:137 *:*
Can not obtain ownership information
UDP 192.168.1.196:138 *:*
Can not obtain ownership information
UDP 192.168.1.196:1900 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP 192.168.1.196:5353 *:*
[TeamViewer_Service.exe]
UDP 192.168.1.196:5353 *:*
[mDNSResponder.exe]
UDP 192.168.1.196:61594 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:123 *:*
W32Time
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:3389 *:*
TermService
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP [::]:3702 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:5353 *:*
Dnscache
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:5355 *:*
Dnscache
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:49706 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP [::]:60463 *:*
[TeamViewer_Service.exe]
UDP [::]:60889 *:*
FDResPub
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::]:60892 *:*
[mDNSResponder.exe]
UDP [::]:60900 *:*
[dashost.exe]
UDP [::1]:1900 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP [::1]:5353 *:*
[mDNSResponder.exe]
UDP [::1]:5353 *:*
[TeamViewer_Service.exe]
UDP [::1]:61593 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP [fe80::b9ac:236a:42d2:c90d%9]:1900 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]
UDP [fe80::b9ac:236a:42d2:c90d%9]:61592 *:*
SSDPSRV
[svchost.exe]

Time to look at Linux again.

For those who might be interested, The seventh generation core (Intel) (sixth generation core for Xeon) and the newer AMD Zen will not be able to run Microsoft OS before Windows 10. This is the Microsoft-Intel-AMD collusion. But you can run any version of Linux, OSX. This should also boost Linux stock even more, as Microsoft once again angers its user base. More Here...

Why do you think we call it Micro$haft and sometimes Micro$atan? They say it makes things easier, what it makes easier is firing more of their overworked and underpaid developers. They're well known for waffling, outright lying (spyware disguised as security updates among other things) and unscrupulous business dealings that the EU stomped on hard, (America loves criminals) so we'll have to watch this and see where the slippery snake goes.

I am non-partisan, and like all operating systems.

Mostly use Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, and have very few problems.

My PC condom brand of choice (paid) is BitDefender.

Now I have had issues at times with WInders upgrades...
I always create a restore point, before upgrading.

I have had to "roll back" just twice. Paused updates.
Waited for the storm clouds to abate, and then,

Upgraded.

I like the Linux inside Windows that is oot and aboot now.
Pretty handy.

If it weren't for this infernal learning disability I would have learned Linux long ago because unlike Windblows it's secure by nature and doesn't need all the lousy updates. I'm pretty much fed up with problematical WindBLOWS and wish I could chuck it, especially now since Micro$haft has its testicles... tentacles wrapped around Intel, Qualcomm, and AMD making it the latest W10 or nothing. They like Linux however, an interesting twist. https://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/1...essors-skylake

The link I provided made this statement:

Quote:

Why is Microsoft doing this?

Windows 10 must succeed at all costs. It's Windows 10 or bust.

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I know, it's as with everything these days, it's all about money. Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm didn't have to get involved with Micro$atan, BUT they're just as greedy. There's money (savings) in their pots, they don't have to pay their boffins to include architecture for legacy Windblows systems. I don't know why Linux is unaffected, I'm just a country bumpkin chewing on a wheat straw and smoking the patch in the middle of the corn field with rice papers.

Oh David, the movie is never on TV, I had forgotten that scene until I stumbled across that tongue radar device yesterday. http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Scienc...sp?NewsNum=603 NOW 2 has met and merged with 2 at Yoyodyne, a growing excited company, where the future begins tomorrow. The Yoyodyne Division (also known as Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems or YPS) was a shipbuilding entity. In the 22nd century the YPS pulse fusion was utilized in DY-500-class colony ships. In the 24th century the Division built starships for the United Federation of Planets at various shipyards including 40 Eridani A Starfleet Construction Yards, Copernicus Ship Yards, and San Francisco Fleet Yards. The firm had an office on Deep Space 9's Promenade, it's seen listed on the directory. As long as I got stuck on the Star Trek-Buckaroo Banzai connection, two starships in the Next Generation fleet have connections. The Excelsior* builder plaque bears the motto "No matter where you go, there you are." a phrase uttered by Buckaroo himself, and the Sutherland not only was built by Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, the motto is a John Lennon quote, "There will be an answer, let it be." Easter eggs are everywhere, you just have to look for them, like the GNDN conduits in the original series, goes nowhere does nothing.

* Excelsior: Jean Shepherd sometimes worked the phrase "Excelsior, you fat head!" into his monologue.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KJ3N

https://www.safer-networking.org/pro...t-anti-beacon/

Scroll to the bottom and click Download.

Payment is optional, but you get more blocking options with the paid version.

Best return ever for money I donated.

Yesterday Mozilla updated Firefox, now it has anti-tracking built in, however it can't stop Micro$atan's old tricks, telemetry. Now they're putting that shit in third party apps, these days you may as well be using a public WiFi hotspot. $10 is a worthwhile investment, but if you're utterly paranoid or up to no good and want the ultimate in security you'll have to pay more for the very best, ExpressVPN or second best (not quite as fast but I find it adequate) NordVPN. If you spend that much money you must be a smart shopper, look around for the best discount that ironically may be hidden on an obscure page on the manufacturers web site. There are others that have various holes, and freebies are worthless, so if you want to be completely any mouse end to end wear a Guy Fawkes mask at least when you're up to no good.

So, thanks for the post, the cheapskates and legal beagles... and most of all Spybot appreciates it. (;->)

Which version of Win10 are most of you in-thread using...Home, Professional, Enterprise?

I'm getting ready to build an i3770-based system and as far as the requisite MS platform will likely install the lower-tier Pro offering. Don't need enhanced graphics or gaming capabilities.

All 64 bit, Pro in the the AMD tower, Home on the laptops.
Pro is tweaked with Windows insider stuff.

I gotta fire up/rebuild my Linux "mule" tower PC.

The mule is almost always open case, used to test and refurb drives mostly.
Various distros from time to time, but man, it is a useful machine.

My one and only Mac (Power Computing "clone") got donated.
Ran Beos like a champ, no OS-X in any form.

May build another tower at some point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1LAF

Time to look at Linux again.

For those who might be interested, The seventh generation core (Intel) (sixth generation core for Xeon) and the newer AMD Zen will not be able to run Microsoft OS before Windows 10. This is the Microsoft-Intel-AMD collusion. But you can run any version of Linux, OSX. This should also boost Linux stock even more, as Microsoft once again angers its user base. More Here...

And now a reading of this topic according to John/IZE-

I adopted Linux early on when I got my first 166mhz Pentium. I didn't latch onto it because of any dislike for Microsoft. I just happened to be browsing around a bookshop and came across a few books on Linux and it immediately reminded me of my days operating on systems in academia. And although disdain for MicroSoft wasn't a motivating factor, over the years since, Microsoft has given me numerous reasons to look upon them with disdain. This recent move is typical of what I have come to expect from Microsoft and is theiorclassic way of manipulating and shoehorning it's user base. In my case going the Linux route is easy as I have been there since the 1980's. However, for many people migration to a new op system is not so easy without some degree of productivity loss (hopefully short lived) as clients adjust to the migration away from Windows to a new system. In some cases the transition may not be feasible. In other cases it may not be feasible in the immediate short term but if they can bear with it may prove quite feasible in the long term. It all depends on the clientele, their business model, and how well they can weather the winds of change.

P.S. As a fedora user it is not the distro I would recommend to the enterprise. Each Fedora distro version is very short lived as new version updates come up fast and furious, often including the most bleeding edge apps and administrative tools. For example, I just upgraded today and I am still about 2 versions behind. As far as Linux distros go, fedora is the proving ground for new things that will eventually make it into enterprise distros and other distros once they prove themselves usable and stable. For a guy like me fedora is fine but for the enterprise not so fine. They would be better served with something like Red Hat enterprise Linux(or it's present day equivalent) which comes with customer support.

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Originally Posted by N8YX

Which version of Win10 are most of you in-thread using...Home, Professional, Enterprise?

I'm getting ready to build an i3770-based system and as far as the requisite MS platform will likely install the lower-tier Pro offering. Don't need enhanced graphics or gaming capabilities.

Win 10 Home, version 1903 on two laptops.

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Originally Posted by WØTKX

All 64 bit, Pro in the the AMD tower, Home on the laptops.
Pro is tweaked with Windows insider stuff.

I gotta fire up/rebuild my Linux "mule" tower PC.

The mule is almost always open case, used to test and refurb drives mostly.
Various distros from time to time, but man, it is a useful machine.

My one and only Mac (Power Computing "clone") got donated.
Ran Beos like a champ, no OS-X in any form.

May build another tower at some point.

My Electric Utilities provider, how do I love thee, let me count the ways:

One Pentium 4 Tower, Win 7 running 24/4 in DVR / TV Server.
One Quad-core Laptop, Win 10 running 24/7 on my desktop (TV client)
One Dual-core MacBook Pro, Ubuntu 14.05 running 24/7 - SDR OP25 digital scanner.
One Hot-Rod gaming PC and PlayStation-4 running 24/7/365. (my harmonics')
One Quad-core Laptop, Win 10 that I travel with
One Quad Core MacBook Pro occasionally used for MAMP and PHP
One Dual-core Tower running Win 7 for digital modes in radio room.

Did I mention the managed Cisco 3200 Catalyst switch?

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ETA: Dual-core laptop running Vista for Terminal / Putty / Cisco CLI.

I must say that I've always admired Linux, and diddled with it endlessly at various times.

When my kids were teenagers, I had a serious problem with the older one downloading music illegally. I was sure that the FBI would be at our doorstep. Every time he got on the computer, he would attract so much malware/spyware that the poor PC couldn't run under the burden of all the 'call home' features. I finally set up a recovery system so that when that PC got goobered up, I could push an F key and restore it to a nice clean, pristine condition, with only the apps he was supposed to use would run. This also allowed his Mom to use the computer. Each time I cleaned it off, his illicit music went with it. Eventually, after many repeats, he got the message, and viruses were very few after that. I'm fairly sure he moved his music business over to his buddy's house and used his computer.

Anyway, my daughter needed a computer that would do Microsoft Word and their presentation app for school reports. In order to keep her brother from sneaking into her room and screwing up her computer, I installed Linux as her operating system, with OpenOffice for all her app needs. OpenOffice produced MicroSatan compatible files, and it's all I used until LibreOffice got slightly better. She picked up how to use it right away, and was very happy with her very fast PC. I think she's something of a whiz kid with computers now - makes me, who worked in the industry for close to 40 years, look like an idjit.

I've never fully embraced Linux for desktop use, though. I could see it in an enterprise where the potential applications were limited. When I studied Unix many years ago, I was fully comfortable with building Icons and linking them to programs, but unless the Linux app does it for me using whatever tool, I don't have a lot of luck.

I may have to bite the bullet and really get down to business with Linux. I'm running Windows 8 on the most important computer in the house. It's our TV set, and it runs Microsoft Media Center. Media Center was discontinued after Win 7, but it runs on 8. It won't run on 10, dammit. It's better than Tivo for managing TV recordings. With a cheap TV tuner card, you can search through an online TV Guide, and choose which programs to record by title. It automatically omits recording reruns unless you tell it not to. It couldn't be easier to use, and I can't find a real equivalent anywhere. There is a Linux app that looks like it might work, but it would require a lot of maintenance. I might just throw in the towel and buy a real TiVo.

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Originally Posted by K0RGR

I must say that I've always admired Linux, and diddled with it endlessly at various times.

When my kids were teenagers, I had a serious problem with the older one downloading music illegally. I was sure that the FBI would be at our doorstep. Every time he got on the computer, he would attract so much malware/spyware that the poor PC couldn't run under the burden of all the 'call home' features. I finally set up a recovery system so that when that PC got goobered up, I could push an F key and restore it to a nice clean, pristine condition, with only the apps he was supposed to use would run. This also allowed his Mom to use the computer. Each time I cleaned it off, his illicit music went with it. Eventually, after many repeats, he got the message, and viruses were very few after that. I'm fairly sure he moved his music business over to his buddy's house and used his computer.

Anyway, my daughter needed a computer that would do Microsoft Word and their presentation app for school reports. In order to keep her brother from sneaking into her room and screwing up her computer, I installed Linux as her operating system, with OpenOffice for all her app needs. OpenOffice produced MicroSatan compatible files, and it's all I used until LibreOffice got slightly better. She picked up how to use it right away, and was very happy with her very fast PC. I think she's something of a whiz kid with computers now - makes me, who worked in the industry for close to 40 years, look like an idjit.

I've never fully embraced Linux for desktop use, though. I could see it in an enterprise where the potential applications were limited. When I studied Unix many years ago, I was fully comfortable with building Icons and linking them to programs, but unless the Linux app does it for me using whatever tool, I don't have a lot of luck.

I may have to bite the bullet and really get down to business with Linux. I'm running Windows 8 on the most important computer in the house. It's our TV set, and it runs Microsoft Media Center. Media Center was discontinued after Win 7, but it runs on 8. It won't run on 10, dammit. It's better than Tivo for managing TV recordings. With a cheap TV tuner card, you can search through an online TV Guide, and choose which programs to record by title. It automatically omits recording reruns unless you tell it not to. It couldn't be easier to use, and I can't find a real equivalent anywhere. There is a Linux app that looks like it might work, but it would require a lot of maintenance. I might just throw in the towel and buy a real TiVo.

My eldest neicethanked me recently for introducing her to Linux way back early on when she was a child. I had set upoa desktop running Linux in the guest room and whenever she'd stayover the house she'd be using that Linux system. She has long since completed her undergrad work in Physics, is working full time, and taking some grad level courses in computer scence. She thanked me for giving her her first start in Linux and Unix-like OS'es such that she was already used to them when she came across them in the academic world.

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Originally Posted by N8YX

Which version of Win10 are most of you in-thread using...Home, Professional, Enterprise?

I'm getting ready to build an i3770-based system and as far as the requisite MS platform will likely install the lower-tier Pro offering. Don't need enhanced graphics or gaming capabilities.

just got an email from IT Dept...they are replacing my work laptop running WIN 7 Enterprise with a new laptop running WIN 10 Enterprise....the only WIN box in the house...others run
Arch Linux, MX Linux, or Ubuntu LTS Linux..even my not-so-tech-savvy Wife's laptop runs Ubuntu LTS....

come over to the dark side & try Linux...I recommend MX 18 Linux to start....https://mxlinux.org/