CB 2013

I see no purpose in connecting a professional mic and EQ up to a CB or ham rig unless it's been completely de-hyellowfied. A stock rig has the audio amp tailored for voice communications, usually 300-3000Hz so no matter what you put in you'll transmit telephonium yawdio. Now if you're in an AM window talking to one of the AM Gangstas who has a modified receiver and good speaker and can actually hear hwi-fwi even a de-hyellowfied radio is wasted so don't expect a CBer to care how good you sound when all they're interested in is how BAD you sound.

"I think in the next few days I'm going to connect my studio mic and EQ to the one in the shack....Aught to sound good."
Good only in your opinion, once you get it tweaked it'll sound smooth BUT they want PUNCH. So if you give them ear bleed they're happy, if not they'll tell you that you have low audio. That's not to say you have to splatter all over the band, punch means tailored to voice and a high modulation density from substantial clipping with a good low pass filter to remove harmonics that cause splatter. That's why my scratchy Apache cut through QRM like a hot knife through butter and don't say a word about 100W when that was QRP back in my CB daze. Maybe John NH remembers Artie Windjammer on channel 21 and his Johnson desk kilowatt run at half power who never did figure out how I was able to be heard through him... dayah da dayah dayah dayah. (;->)

As usual, no one can figure out what you're saying.

Stop being an asshole.

Quote function. Use it.

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Originally Posted by kb2vxa

I see no purpose in connecting a professional mic and EQ up to a CB or ham rig unless it's been completely de-hyellowfied. A stock rig has the audio amp tailored for voice communications, usually 300-3000Hz so no matter what you put in you'll transmit telephonium yawdio. Now if you're in an AM window talking to one of the AM Gangstas who has a modified receiver and good speaker and can actually hear hwi-fwi even a de-hyellowfied radio is wasted so don't expect a CBer to care how good you sound when all they're interested in is how BAD you sound.

"I think in the next few days I'm going to connect my studio mic and EQ to the one in the shack....Aught to sound good."
Good only in your opinion, once you get it tweaked it'll sound smooth BUT they want PUNCH. So if you give them ear bleed they're happy, if not they'll tell you that you have low audio. That's not to say you have to splatter all over the band, punch means tailored to voice and a high modulation density from substantial clipping with a good low pass filter to remove harmonics that cause splatter. That's why my scratchy Apache cut through QRM like a hot knife through butter and don't say a word about 100W when that was QRP back in my CB daze. Maybe John NH remembers Artie Windjammer on channel 21 and his Johnson desk kilowatt run at half power who never did figure out how I was able to be heard through him... dayah da dayah dayah dayah. (;->)

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I confess to having no clue at all to what you mean by "de-hyellowfied". If you read my post what I do with the rig I run is to cut the low end, push the mids and roll off the high end a little. The whole point isn't to sound like broadcast but, to make the signal readable. Some stock hand mics are tailored to voice but, a lot of them are just plain cheap, low quality mics. Compression will do what a clipping amp does but with out the distortion. It makes for higher average levels and increased readability. I like to start with good quality to begin with before I start tweaking the sound. It's like digital photo editing. You should always start with the best source you can. You can subtract things that are there but there is nothing you can do to put something back that wasn't there to begin with. You don't need a Neuman U87 to be certain but, a Shure SM57 is a good place to start. The D1000 I use was AKG's answer to an SM57 but with less proximity effect. I was just offering to let him hear the difference between between a number of different mics on the air so he could trust his ears. I will admit that part of playing around with this is because I can. I run a small studio and I have a pretty good mic collection. My old 720 came with out the original mic so, I need to use some kind of mic preamp to make it work. Is the VP400 overkill? Likely but, it does work well and I already have it. Why not use it and try some of these other things to see if they make a difference. I had another 720a that did have the original mic and it was a foul sounding thing. The mids were so hot as to make it harder to read. When I let go of the radio that mic went with it.

Archie N8OBM

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Originally Posted by N8OBM

I confess to having no clue at all to what you mean by "de-hyellowfied". If you read my post what I do with the rig I run is to cut the low end, push the mids and roll off the high end a little. The whole point isn't to sound like broadcast but, to make the signal readable. Some stock hand mics are tailored to voice but, a lot of them are just plain cheap, low quality mics. Compression will do what a clipping amp does but with out the distortion. It makes for higher average levels and increased readability. I like to start with good quality to begin with before I start tweaking the sound. It's like digital photo editing. You should always start with the best source you can. You can subtract things that are there but there is nothing you can do to put something back that wasn't there to begin with. You don't need a Neuman U87 to be certain but, a Shure SM57 is a good place to start. The D1000 I use was AKG's answer to an SM57 but with less proximity effect. I was just offering to let him hear the difference between between a number of different mics on the air so he could trust his ears.I will admit that part of playing around with this is because I can. I run a small studio and I have a pretty good mic collection. My old 720 came with out the original mic so, I need to use some kind of mic preamp to make it work. Is the VP400 overkill? Likely but, it does work well and I already have it. Why not use it and try some of these other things to see if they make a difference. I had another 720a that did have the original mic and it was a foul sounding thing. The mids were so hot as to make it harder to read. When I let go of the radio that mic went with it.

Archie N8OBM

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And here are some of the most basic parts of the hobby. Experimenting, using what's on hand, and helping/sharing with others. :clap: Works for me.

My Flex 3000 and TS-850SAT respond quite well to microphone shenanigans.

I need to hook up my ARX Afterburner again. Wonderful unit.

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Originally Posted by WØTKX

My Flex 3000 and TS-850SAT respond quite well to microphone shenanigans.

I need to hook up my ARX Afterburner again. Wonderful unit.

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What would you guess a fair price for a used Flex 3000 would be?

I welcome the possibility of a QSO. If only for the sake of a QSO. Checking out different mics and set-ups would only be a bonus. We can only learn by our experiments/experience and the experiments/experiences of others.

HELL YEAH!

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Originally Posted by K7SGJ

What would you guess a fair price for a used Flex 3000 would be?

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How about this?

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...chase-required

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Originally Posted by WU9G

How about this?

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...chase-required

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Thanks Janet. I saw that one, and one on QTH for around $1500 or so. I just have no idea what a good price would be. Usually people that own a certain radio are more familiar with it's resale value than others that don't have one. Plus, I have no idea what is standard and what are extras/upgrades worth having. I'm just tossing the whole idea around, I don't even know if I'll end up with one, but SDR has always fascinated me.

Yea, $1300 or so is about the lowest I've seen. A new one is $1895. :dunno:

The 1500 is a cheaper, QRP, but the RX is almost as good.