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What you are stating is incorrect. He heard a story (no proof) and carried the story heard to his bosses to figure out what to do. He witnessed nothing (that we know of) and went up the chain with what he heard. Just as you would do at your job.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Rated
I think he did nothing wrong, if he didn't see it with his own eyes.
I know that you know that I am from Pennsylvania, and knowing that, I am certain you won't believe me when I tell you I don't really know who Joe Paterno is. I've heard his name and recognize it but I thought he was a football player from the 60s or 70s that got a deadly disease and died and they made a movie about him.........Quote:
Originally Posted by W3WN
It just seems wrong, it is plain for me to see that the man is in trouble for doing what he was s'posed to do. And they tell me on the news that he has been a wonderful person who is known and loved by many and now he is in trouble.
Anyway, as far as I am concerned the guy did what he was s'posed to do. He told his superior. Turns out, that was all he was required to do, and now the world thinks him a bum. I wouldn't accuse him of anything. It's just proof that life sucks so badly for some people they jump at the chance to point the finger at somebody on somebody else's say so. Instead of jumping to conclusions based on rumor and speculation, I'll wait until I see some kind of proof.....
Leave the old guy alone.
I didn't say he declined to testify as a witness in a trial. I said he failed to go to the police when he was told of a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by KA9MOT
If you have a child come home and they say that they were beaten and they have the people's name who beat them, do you tell the child that it is a pity that you yourself did not stand there and witness the beating because if you had, you could take it to the authorities with it? But as it is, they will have to suck an egg?
But yeah. These are classic talking points for covering up criminal activity.
Paterno failed a fundamental moral obligation. The circumstances of his relationships with the university, his status and the status of the accused all conspire to a strong possibility, if not an outright probability, that his decision was predicated on his personal ambition and not on the welfare of the child, on the law or on justice. It was the wrong decision.
We are all given choices to make in our lives. We make them and then we must live with them. So, too, must Paterno.
As did the red headed guy that witnessed the crime. My question is, why is this guy still employed at PSU? He should have called the police, instead he passed it up the line just like Paterno.Quote:
Paterno failed a fundamental moral obligation
Are you trying to make me feel softer on child rape? It isn't working.Quote:
Originally Posted by NA4BH
No, I'm just wondering why the "witness" isn't bearing the same wrath as the rest of them.
In the first place, besides Jerry Sandusky (who should receive wrath), who is receiving wrath? I have had employers come in and tell me I am no longer working there and pack my things and leave. This is what is known as the free enterprise system. Capitalism. Too many socialists believe people like Paterno are "owed" a job. I think that top management should be able to make decisions and let the marketplace decide what the outcome should be. BTW. When they let me go, they went out of business in a few years. The system works.Quote:
Originally Posted by NA4BH
Huh? That is not what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Rated
This is how I see it. Bob B witnessed OFIC (Old Fart in charge) having his was with Chuck C (a minor). Bob B struggles with what he just witnessed and shared it with EOOFIC (Even Older Old Fart in Charge). EOOFIC did not see it but had knowledge that it happened and he passed it on to his superior OOFE (Oldest Old Fart Ever) to be investigated as the old wise one would see fit.
I live in a town with a large State College (WIU). Before I lived here, I lived in a Town with a very well known and respected College (Monmouth College). My buddy Jeff used to be the head of Security at Monmouth. We once discussed some of the parties that were happening on Campus after several students had been carted off to the hospital for Liquor Poisoning, fighting etc. You know the stupid crap we all did when we were kids. Anyway, I asked Jeff why Monmouth PD doesn't take a party down before the problems occurred. His answer surprised me.
Monmouth PD can not enter College property unless called in by Security. That is the deal that was made. If Monmouth PD chases somebody on Campus they must stop chasing them unless they have permission from Security. Security usually allows them too, but there has been some trouble between them.
WIU is much larger and has it's own police force. Same deal as Monmouth. Macomb PD stays off campus unless invited.
Jeff says the college feels college kids shouldn't get into trouble for the things that they do like underage drinking, and that is why they police themselves.
As I said. There are many who want to cover up child rape. It is a pity. Paterno had fervor in making corrections in his starting lineup to assure an excellent performance. He didn't whine that there is a difference between campus police and city police when they lost a game. It has no meaning. Why anyone would say that child rape is okay because the city police may have no authority on campus is beyond my comprehension. But yet those talking points still exist. Some excuse to excuse child rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by KA9MOT