This one should be especially entertaining with a Frankenstorm off the East Coast.
A nightmare whacker scenario is brewing and the HF bands are going to be packed six deep.
:spin::rofl:
This one should be especially entertaining with a Frankenstorm off the East Coast.
A nightmare whacker scenario is brewing and the HF bands are going to be packed six deep.
:spin::rofl:
Impracticable, John. Not all regions share the same allocations. Not to mention that everyone has their little fiefdom they want protected. No matter how you slice it, someone's ox is going to get gored.Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
The compromise has been in place for many years. The WARC bands are contest free. Learn to use & enjoy them.
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Originally Posted by ki4itv
CW and most of the digi bands will be nice and clear....:whistle:
Well on 17 meters I can use phone. And 160 meters is usually not too bad. I can run an AM roundtable on 160 during most contests. 75 meters is more challenging but it can be done. Of course if its too crowded then you just wait for the contest to be over. Of course there will always be dicks who will piss and moan no matter what because they think they own a particular frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3N
Well fellers I've had a great contest. I began with my morning ragchew on 75m, then was in and out on 40m while hauling mulch with my dad today, then have been on 40m this afternoon with a couple of other dudes talking football while we've been watching footbaw, and I've not heard one of you cotton-pickers all weekend.
73 AND GOOD LUCK IN THE COrNTEST!
haha
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Originally Posted by N4BBQ
My rig is on right now. But i doubt you would hear me even if were calling you on a clear frequency. :lol:
I'm actually bored. Not getting into it this time around.
I picked up a couple of VKs this morning on 40m. Also a KH6. One that I'd never heard of before; a GM/S (Shetland Island) on 10m.
So far, 52 Qs and 75 multipliers. Too many other distractions and I'm a little short on sleep. My butt's been dragging all day....
Lets see....i have.....2 qsos.
I need to put a few more in there before work. Sunday is usually my best day for contesting since the initial pileups are down, even on rare ones, and i can focus on the final push.
I worked a few. Lost interest in the microphone. 10M JT65 is packed with signals at the moment. Working some of them now instead.
Yeah, me too. I just worked OA1F on 15 cw.
Listening to HC1JQ on 14.349 working US ops that seem to have no clue where the band edge is. This problem would be eliminated in short order if the contest organizers just noted every call they heard op OOB and DQ'ed them.
I getting some decent stations now. My best catch of the day was right after that last post. I tuned across an empty 15 cw band and heard a pileup on 5T5BV, Mauritius. There was a lull and i dropped my call and got him. New band country for me.
I can feel good going to work now. :)
Where's Dave Popkin and his infamous Popkingrams when you need them?Quote:
Originally Posted by KC9ECI
I've got 90 Q's in today. Didn't bother last night (too tired), and just spent a little time on this morning & afternoon. 50 of those Q's are on 10, 25 on 15, 15 on 20. Just got back in the shack, not hearing anything on 160, and EU isn't hearing me barefoot on 40. I don't expect much on 75 except some Caribbean and Central/South Americans. So it goes.
But when I was operating earlier at least, I had fun!!
I'll get back into it tomorrow. I'm just too tired. I went to bed about 1:30 Friday night and the dog got me up around 6:00 Saturday morning. I haven't been able to focus on anything today.
The good part was bagging the 2 VKs and the KH6 on 40m SSB with just the 100 watts. The bad part is it's only 9:40 and I can barely keep my eyes open.
I'm going to be lucky to break 100 Qs at this point. Too much time spent trying to keep gutters clear and other preparations to be made in anticipation of Sandy's arrival.
Still a few choice DXCC entities to be had, like AH0BT on 15M. I think that's an ATNO for me.
This just made the whole contest for me!!!!
D9K 15M 10/28/2012 22:41z :rock: :hyper: :rock:
Amazingly, he's not that busy. It's like nobody knows he's there.
Yes, 100 watts, but on the 4-element 15m beam.
We now return your bands to their usual "crickets chirping" conditions. :neener:
Why bother? There's no frequency reserved for any purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
Nice catch!Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3N
I picked up a few more towards DDXCC (I didn't do much on it over the summer), plus P29NI on 12 late this afternoon. I now stand at 99... one more to go!
I ended up with 120 Q's, 60 on 10 meters, 35 on 15, 25 on 20. Obviously I wasn't trying too hard! The vertical is set for CW on 80 & 40, so it doesn't play too well on the phone side -- and the wire wasn't loading correctly for some reason, so I just stayed on the high bands.
Dig up and reanimate him, then equip Dave with a box-load of the following...suitably modified to include the verbiage "shared spectrum" and "first come, first served". His targets of interest are the MMSN whiners:Quote:
Originally Posted by W3WN
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Because it seems like it might be a nice compromise to limit contests to specific bands. Say you schedule a contest and limit it to 20 meter phone. The contest happens on 2-0 and the other bands are clear. Next week you have a cw contest on 80 and 160. Then maybe the following week a contest on 10 meters using dipshittal modes. Then maybe an AM contest on 160 the week after. Then maybe a phone contest on 75 and 40 the next week,. Then maybe a qrp contest on 15 and 20 the next week. It seems to me that by going this route we could have more contests, more frequently and without compromising anyone. Plenty of band space for contesters, plenty of band space for non-contesters, greater diversity, greater flexibility, and less issues. I think it would be a win/win for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by KC2UGV
Other hobbies and interests I have seem to allow for people to compromise and create balance. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Unfortunately ham radio is the one hobby that seems to take the "all or nothing" approach. Why is it so difficult for hams to compromise ? There is more than enough room for contesters and non-contesters alike.
WARC bands almost never have any contesting on them. But they are prime DXing locations and are where the DX who DON'T contest hide out during these massive events.
By limiting different contests to different bands and modes we could probably open up the WARC bands for contests as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by wa6mhz
Contests are already limited to certain bands.Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
WARC band NEVER have any contesting. Not "almost never", but "Never".Quote:
Originally Posted by wa6mhz
Truth. I read somewhere (Zed?) that some cotton-picker was thinking of starting up aQuote:
Originally Posted by KC2UGV
BIBLE STUDY NET" on either 60m or 17m.
I thought maybe I'd start a "HOLY KORAN NET" about three minutes before he started his. haha
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Originally Posted by N4BBQ
The first contest on a WARC band would involve pissing?
yeah,, but why not include ALL the bands including the WARC bands and spread things out the way i described above ? For example,Quote:
Originally Posted by KC2UGV
Contest 1 -> Digital modes on the WARC bands
Contest 2 -> Phone on 75 and 40.
Contest 2 -> QRP CW on 80 and 160
Contest 4 -> Phone on 10, 15
Contest 5 -> AM or SSB on 160
Contest 6 -> CW & Phone on 6 and 2 metres.
Contest 7 -> 10 meter AM & SSB DX
Contest * -> etc.
This could be done weekly or even daily... more contests, more often, and plenty of room left for ragchewers, nets, experimenters, etc. I see the issue between contests and non-contesters as more an organizational issue than any sort of hard core rivalry. Better planning (i.e. perhaps based on a round robin type scheduling) or other organizational schema can go a very long way and give better results than we see today.
There's enough Pissing & Moaning about contests as it is. All you'll do is make it louder. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
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Originally Posted by n2ize
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Originally Posted by KJ3N
Sounds good to me... Let them piss and moan
Contests are evil and the WARC bands are too "Euro" for any God-fearin', commie-hatin' real American ham.
Maybe, but I don't think so. I think better organization will reduce the piss and moan levels. True, some will piss and moan no matter what. But I think better planning and organization would actually reduce the P&M factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3N
In all fairness, most people moan a little bit when they have to piss really bad! Then once they start pissing, they say "aaaaaaah"....because saying they are moaning would be a little weird.