Factor in the racist factor for Texas vs the N.E.
Ryan, you would be viewed as an uppity black man.
It bad enough that I've been called a n***** here.
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Factor in the racist factor for Texas vs the N.E.
Ryan, you would be viewed as an uppity black man.
It bad enough that I've been called a n***** here.
NO ONE can complain about the SoCal Weather, and that is what OLD FOLKS are most sensitive to. (I know I sure am!)
us CODGERS can't even COMPREHEND having to SHOVEL SNOW day after day, October to May. SNOW SUCKS (unless U are a Skiier) NO SNOW HERE in San Diego, except up in the mountains on rare occasions. Us old foks like to be very comfortable, in our Rest Homes. Easy to walk with our Walkers here in San Diego. We have our Oxegyn bottles and DEPENDS. Our Hospital gowns and Blue Hair. Our Scooters and our GREAT GRANDCHILDREN. Nope, I just couldn't FATHOM living anywhere but San Diego. Hawaii might not be too bad, but they have big SPIDERS there.
Shit, Im a young buck and I hate snow with a passion!Quote:
Originally Posted by wa6mhz
You think so? Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by KG4CGC
Besides, I'm not black. I share many of the same origins as the Governor of your state. How did she get elected with all the racism anyway?
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Jeff, if it's one thing, I am not going to do is masquerade as something I am not.Quote:
Originally Posted by W4GPL
I am not white but I am not black either, not that there is anything wrong with being either of those. I really hate such broad labels anyway.
Yep, that's another reason why New York sucks for retirement, especially upstate NY. They get an unbelievable amount of snow. Either you pay someone to remove it or break your back doing it. Snow blowers make it a hell of a lot easier but you still have to get out in the cold to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wa6mhz
That wasn't his point! As far as I'm aware, Charles isn't black either. People in those parts of the world are too fucking ignorant to even know the difference. Dark skin == nigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
They elected Governor Nikki Haley who is an (American born) Indian.Quote:
Originally Posted by W4GPL
There are absolutely some places which will not see past the color of your skin, as there are in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Florida, Colorado and other states. But that doesn't mean you can't find somewhere where you can get along with people.
I do in fact have relatives in Texas (DFW). They love it there.
You'll find racism everywhere you go. Even in Trinidad and Tobago there were places where if you are not black you are not welcome.
That's a stupid question. You know how she got elected because you cowtow to the same people that she does.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
Is THAT the answer you wanted? You know it's true. She's pushing their agenda, said all the right things, had the right people, Sarah Palin talk nice about her and the fact that she has Indian background and is a woman makes her a useful tool in the GOP agenda.
BTW, I know you're not black. I've seen pictures of you or your evil twin of the same name traced back to the India/Pakistan area. You are however missing the point, you would be called a racial slur in Texas, likely to your face. The difference is that in SC, until the last couple of years that is, people did that kind of thing behind your back. Now with the Radicals taking over the GOP, it's back to the open racism of the past unless of course you can be a useful tool.
Sure, some people will treat you with respect. They're not the ones you have to worry about.
I have been called racial slurs in New York too. I had a guy spit on my car and tell me that he doesn't like fucking rag heads. Racism is everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by KG4CGC
What you are saying is that the South is bad because there are racist people who live there. You're saying that the GOP is bad because a few people said racist things. The NE doesn't seem all that better either, and I think that enduring a little racism isn't bad if it means I'll live a more comfortable life and not drain away my retirement funds down the tax hole.
Just curious, Ryan: how much time have you spent in Texas?
I've been to DFW off and on for work, a week at a time. I've been to Nashville, TN too.Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ6BSO
I've spent a lot of time in Texas; DFW isn't very much like the rest of the state. Get out of the big city and into the countryside and see if you still hold the place in as high esteem.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
Definitely a better source of opinion than a person who has lived there for an extended period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
Hell, I can now offer solid opinions on Detroit, Chicago, NYC, and Knoxville. Never lived in any of those places, but I've been to each for at least a week stretch each.
That is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen you write on this board. Seriously. That is fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
I'd like to think that you are just trolling but now I have to rethink your position.
No person in the United States should EVER have to endure any kind of racism whatsoever.
Just put it into perspective: He only cares about HIM, and nothing else. Maybe his family, but that's to be seen, since he cares more about money than his family being subjected to "a little racism".Quote:
Originally Posted by KG4CGC
Well, I don't live in every square inch of New Jersey either, now do I? I doubt I'd be comfortable in the pine barrens, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ6BSO
In a perfect world there is no racism. But reality is that some people are racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by KG4CGC
So what do you do? Do you just stay out of their way and let them have their little racist utopia, or do you ignore them, go wherever you please (legally) and carry on with life, enjoy your life, and make them more pissed off?
Let me ask you, why do you continue to live in SC when you've been called a N-word? Won't you feel more at home in somewhere more tolerant like New York City?
Racists aren't tough. They're scared. Ignoring them emboldens them. Raising their ire gathers the posse together. You talk to them and engage them in thinking. There is more that I do but I'm not giving that away.
I live here because I live here. I don't run away from assholes.
This country has fought for Civil Rights and Equality. Just because people are racist should not diminish that. I'm not going to tolerate it because I know it starts out from ignorance of others, taught by others. Like the baby singing about homos in church. Racism is also political because it is a wedge tool. Simply accepting racism is tacit approval. Going beyond that and accepting those into your party who promote it is a surefire path to self detonation of that party.
If you're tolerating it, you're moving backwards and things will stay the same and even get worse.
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Originally Posted by KG4CGC
Charles, you and I agree a lot in principle here, except that I don't really want to fight with people. I just want to live my life, which I do.
Where I live has a reputation of being more like where you live but after talking to people and they get to know you, they are just fine with you. It helps when you are active in the community too.
You just want to live it in a higher class neighborhood, i get it.
I want to live in a neighborhood of only me and a lot of trees. Maybe a nice inlet to fish in. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by N7YA
Not me. I want a neighborhood with lotsa folks from south of the border.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB3LAZ
No way, that would mean no antennas.Quote:
Originally Posted by N7YA
My dream home would be about 50 acres on high elevation, no neighbors for miles.
Ok....i cant disagree with any of that.
I'm not surprised to see WI on that list.
I want to live in/near an affluent area with rich people. Oops... I already do.
I wouldn't mind living on a small deserted tropical island with an unlimited supply of rum, a good solar array, a nice antenna farm, a couple rigs with tubes and a crop of bare breasted female drink servers.
Hey, it's my dream, I'll make it as big as I like.
I would like to retire back to the Caribbean. The question is where. But I would like a nice location for DX/contesting. Only problem is that crime is going up in many Caribbean nations. Security is a real concern now. Didn't use to be that way.
The problem is that you do find more blatant racism in certain parts of the south and yes the GOP is bad. The problem with the GOP is that it supports a repressive style of governance and economics that is injurious to the needs of the workers and the poor.The democrap party isn;t much better either. Another problem is the lack of intellectualism that is prevalent among the GOP and the various supportive factions such as the "tea party". If you look carefully you find most of the true intellectuals tend to be lefties. They tend to favor things like socialism, Marxism, pacifism and anarchy,. They understand how the unfettered corporatism/capitalism and the wars fought in the name of the rich man has led to the demise and exploitation of the poor, the needy, and the workers and how it has led them into a state of repression. It has created the state of economic inequality that we see all around us and the growing disparity that is so blatant.Quote:
Originally Posted by N2RJ
I remember reading about the case of Sacco and Vanzetti. 2 good men murdered by the state for a crime they didn't commit. Sacco and Vanzetti were European anarchists who were trying to organize and fight for the rights of repressed immigrant workers in the USA. One of the statements made by either Sacco or Vanzetti (I forget which one) was "I will not fight in the rich mans war". You tell me why they were railroaded through court and executed. Do you really think the capitalist aristocracy wanted them to stay alive ?
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You might should look in your own backyard before you cast such a broad net. Just sayin'Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
The whole mentality that is commonly associated with the South has spread. I have to hold Radical Republicans responsible for embracing such groups and giving them legitimacy by mainstreaming them.
What you say is quite true. You will find elements of racism everywhere you go. America is a very divided country. We separate our selves economically, socially, racially, religiously, and now even politically. Segregation was for quite some time openly practiced in the south and, in my visits to the south I have seen elements of racism that are a throwback to that past. Note I didn't say everyone or everyplace in the south displays this. But I did see a "brand" of racism that I generally don't see here in the north. of course the north has it's own "brand" of racism, neither of which is any better or worst than the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by NA4BH
That's the part I like. Those that don't live in the South are so quick to point out how "bad" it is down here and where they live nothing of the sort occurs. They seem to turn a blind eye to the fact that it occurs in all 50 states and in their own towns/neighborhoods. With equal impact. And they fail to see the reverse racism that occurs. But what the hey, believe what you must.
No, you did single out the South. I'm glad you live in an area where nothing bad happens. What do they call the place? XANADU?Quote:
Originally Posted by n2ize
The South has no monopoly on racism. Even "liberal" California has it's own history of overt racism. For example there's a town here in San Diego County, Santee named (I believe) after a town in South Carolina. It was a "Sundowner" town for many years (that is, if you were a person of color, you better be out of town by sundown) and even today many locals still refer to it as "Klantee."
It's not the only place I know of in this state with a similar history either.
EDIT: Hell, I almost forgot:this very town, Lemon Grove, was the site of the first school desegregation court case in the country.
Racism is alive and well in PA as well.
Much too mild for me. I HATE nice weather. Couldn't stand to live in a place that has no winter season. When I retire I'm going to Alaska or the Yukon. I don't ever plan to fully retire either. Gonna keep working as long as I can help it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wa6mhz
And to an extent I am going to stick to my guns. The south carried a legacy for some of the worst and most blatant racism in America. It has toned down over the decades and is nothing like it was so, I will give credit where its due. But in my travels down there I heard some pretty nasty racist attitudes that reflect the legacy of the past. . And it was assumed that because I am white I would share those attitudes. Nothing like anything I have ever heard up this way, and we do have some pretty arrogant racists here too, I will definitly give you that. I will also say I was impressed with the south in the sense that they have done a lot to dispel that legacy. And no, things are not perfect here either. I too have been the victim of discrimination right near my own home town. There is one rather affluent community within short distance from my home in which I was discriminated against because I wasn't rich enough for them. I was not of their social-economic caliber. I was watched, tracked, and it was made clear that I am not welcome there, even to just pass through.I guess you can;t call that racism, its more like "classism" or "bank accountism" but it stings just as hard when you are treated as an inferior. Of course they never snub their nose at my money the few times I;ve done business there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NA4BH
Let me conclude with the words of Samuel Johnson, "The future is purchased by the present." but let me add the saying "time will heal all wounds". The south may still carrty some of its past legacy but they probable have done more to change it and move away from it than we have up here. So, what is our excuse ?