Yes or No?

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Originally Posted by W2NAP

winner winner chicken dinner

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Actually, with no disrespect to Bob Prince, the phrase is now "Winner Winner Catfish Dinner"

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Originally Posted by KD8TUT

Legally it's unauthorized computer access according the the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and it's amendments.

If you are an IT person... it would be a good idea to read the law.

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That, essentially, was my point to him.

I'm sure that the management of the establishment (which from his description appears to be clueless) either hasn't noticed or has called in their IT consultant (owner's nephew or something like that, from the sounds of it) to undo it. And no harm was intended. So no harm, no foul.

It's just the principle of the thing. Even if it's ethical hacking, IMHO, it's still hacking.

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Originally Posted by W3WN

That, essentially, was my point to him.

I'm sure that the management of the establishment (which from his description appears to be clueless) either hasn't noticed or has called in their IT consultant (owner's nephew or something like that, from the sounds of it) to undo it. And no harm was intended. So no harm, no foul.

It's just the principle of the thing. Even if it's ethical hacking, IMHO, it's still hacking.

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Way back in the day I had a server 2000 hacked and turned into a distribution point for cracked DVDs.

Considering the activity on the server, I contacted the FBI computer crimes division in Chicago. The conversations I had with them were chilling.

Essentially if your IP or MAC address ends up associated with a computer crime it can become very inconvenient. Especially if it's a child porn or national security issue.

I do not advocate for "white hat hacking". Though if someone wants to engage in that kind of activity they should at least use an onion routing arraignment (TOR/I2P). But messing with a router in a hotel... not a good idea. You're logged. Along with every other idiot in the hotel.

In short.... NEVER do anything on a network without an affirmative defense. When hired for penetration testing, get a signed authorization for the work, make sure the organization who hired you has the authority for such testing, and document document document.

Upgrading router firmware in a hotel on a lark- if stoopit.

My apologies. I didn't read the post correctly the first time, or second for that matter. I didn't get that the router was owned by the hotel, and since it was, I would have to retract my original position.

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Originally Posted by WZ7U

Since he plays for the same team as you (right), all I would say about it is on first blush, no. Looking at it technically, perhaps. But Micheal brought up a good point too.

I suppose that's why I'm not an IT guy.

Fhwew

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Well shit, apparently I don't know squat. Please ignore me on this topic. And I don't know how to spell Michaels name either. I didn't read it correctly either the first time so yes, I guess it is hacking.

Im going away now....

OKAY NOW all you simpletons that cannot read and comprehend....................move to the left, over here with me.

move over would ya?

Can I get a hug or something?

sure, c'mere

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Originally Posted by KD8TUT

Can I get a hug or something?

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Sad to say:

If you want someone to give you unquestionable, undeniable, undemanding love... get a dog.