Chicago Deep-Dish Pizza- Is Really a Tomato Pie...

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Originally Posted by kb2vxa

Everybody has their own idea what "real" pizza is depending on where you live and where you get your pizza from. Even greater debate comes whether you prefer Siciliano (deep dish) Napilatan or Romano. Then people who make their own think theirs is best even if everybody else think it sucks. Some even prefer spinach pizza, I think it sucks. I prefer New York style cooked in a coal fired brick oven and you don't have to go to Little Italy to get it, we here in "the beach" have The Coal House on Arnold Avenue (plug) and they serve lots of other goodies in the restaurant or take out, no home delivery. Oh, his pizza is menza menza but I like his name, Al Capone's over in Brick.

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I agree with you here. In years past I used to haver to go to Brooklyn to get it. Now we have a couple places right nearby that make it in coal and wood fired overns.

And, this is the first time I ever agreed with Scalia.

BTW I am not saying Chicago style is not good. I am sure it's excellent and I am sure I'd like it. But it is different from what I am used to here in NY.

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Originally Posted by KB3LAZ

You've never had bad pizza until you've had pizza in Spain. Soggy cardboard with uncooked crushed tomato, assorted month old deli meat, and half a kilo of dried oregano. A discount frozen pizza that is three months expired from Aldi is better than anything I have ever had here.

I can get lots of good food here but pizza is not included.

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Make your own. Do they have French Bread? Make French Bread Pizza. Any good spaghetti sauce, a couple of pinches of oregano to taste, a half teaspoon of olive oil heat and you've got sauce. Get some fresh mozzarella cheese, grate and put on top of sauce. Stick in the oven at 300 for 8 to 12 minutes (or until cheese is starting to melt) and you've got pizza.

Even beats Stouffers for about ⅓ᴿᴰ to ½ the price.

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Originally Posted by KB3LAZ

Seriously, some good food can be found in Spain provided it is Spanish food. Anything that originates from other countries is not something that you want to buy here.

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I'm sure I'd get along fine. I like Spanish food.

I make my French bread pizza like John but with a couple of small improvements. Fresh mozzarella is too soft to grate properly because it has the consistency of a doughball, I use the more or less standard slightly aged stuff. Mixing it with a bit of grated Romano makes it tangy, but not TOO much or you'll spoil it. It goes a lot faster in el horno microondas, when the cheese is evenly melted it's ready to eat. Oh, if you lightly toast the bread it adds a nice flavor. Just get creative and experiment, you'll find a recipe that fits your taste buds but don't give up if your first choice of spaghetti sauce isn't to your liking so shop around. That's the most important part of it, "they" make it with all sorts of different spice combinations so if it tastes good on spaghetti it'll taste good on anything.

That reminds me, I haven't made any in a long time and now I'm hungry. The only trouble is the store won't open until morning... WWWAAAaaaaaa......................

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Originally Posted by N2NH

Make your own. Do they have French Bread? Make French Bread Pizza. Any good spaghetti sauce, a couple of pinches of oregano to taste, a half teaspoon of olive oil heat and you've got sauce. Get some fresh mozzarella cheese, grate and put on top of sauce. Stick in the oven at 300 for 8 to 12 minutes (or until cheese is starting to melt) and you've got pizza.

Even beats Stouffers for about ⅓ᴿᴰ to ½ the price.

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Spaghetti sauce, not likely. There are some meat sauces here but they are so sweet that it is unreal. I do make homemade pizza but have to start with crushed tomatoes. It is an all day event. If it is premade or canned and you can buy it in the states then you likely can not get it here. Making anything that I am used to requires starting from scratch. I am fine with that for some things but for others I just don't have the time so it gets saved as an every now and again item.

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Originally Posted by KB3LAZ

Spaghetti sauce, not likely. There are some meat sauces here but they are so sweet that it is unreal. I do make homemade pizza but have to start with crushed tomatoes. It is an all day event. If it is premade or canned and you can buy it in the states then you likely can not get it here. Making anything that I am used to requires starting from scratch. I am fine with that for some things but for others I just don't have the time so it gets saved as an every now and again item.

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There is this thing... :cool2:it's called a slow cooker with a timer... :shhh:you can mix it up before work and be ready by the time you return... :yes:

Since it's going to be an all day adventure, if you have a freezer you can make that day last for at least a month. A long time ago in a galaxy far away I had a complete kitchen. In a big pot on an electric stove that had continuous heat control (as opposed to controls with a series of positions) that gave superb settings I'd cook up mass quantities of my special all purpose tomato sauce with sausage and meat balls. Once started I'd turn down the heat to a low simmer, barely bubbling, skimming the grease off the top and stirring about every half hour or so because it got thick at the bottom. At such low heat it never burned and came out perfect every time. Then after using what I need that evening I'd put it in plastic containers, some with no sausage and meat balls and freeze them. It can be done in a crock pot, aka slow cooker, but without any stirring all day I'd imagine it would get a little funky at the bottom, difficult to clean when done. I didn't use one, they weren't invented until the Bronze Age.

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Originally Posted by N2NH

There is this thing... :cool2:it's called a slow cooker with a timer... :shhh:you can mix it up before work and be ready by the time you return... :yes:

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I have one, it took me a year to track it down. Sometimes I feel that the stores are quite medieval. As I said before, you might be surprised at just what you can't buy here. A good roasting pan cost me more than my first car. Okay, so that is a slight exaggeration, slight.

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Originally Posted by KB3LAZ

I have one, it took me a year to track it down. Sometimes I feel that the stores are quite medieval. As I said before, you might be surprised at just what you can't buy here. A good roasting pan cost me more than my first car. Okay, so that is a slight exaggeration, slight.

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Well, you could put wheels on it. I doubt anyone in Spain would really notice, or GAS.

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Originally Posted by N2NH

There is this thing... :cool2:it's called a slow cooker with a timer... :shhh:you can mix it up before work and be ready by the time you return... :yes:

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Skyline Chili - It gets better overnight in the frig; goes good out of the microwave with eggs.

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