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w2amr
08-04-2009, 02:32 AM
This should keep me busy for a while.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2516/3787443083_defe45d566_o.jpg

N2CHX
08-04-2009, 05:14 AM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:

w2amr
08-04-2009, 05:48 AM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:I don't think a 72 Chevelle qualifies as a clunker.

ad4mg
08-04-2009, 06:07 AM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:I don't think a 72 Chevelle qualifies as a clunker.
Izzat a small block? I hope you didn't lose the fuel pump push rod ... :lol:

N8YX
08-04-2009, 06:08 AM
Here ya go, George. Summit is pretty much right up the street from me - I've seen these niceties in stock:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/gbe-10800_w.jpg

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GBE-10800/?image=large

Save yourself a little time ... :lol:

N2CHX
08-04-2009, 06:50 AM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:I don't think a 72 Chevelle qualifies as a clunker.

Neither do most of the cars being traded in for the clunker program, it seems. I'z jes making a funny anyway... Nice car. My mother had a Chevelle. I got carted around in that thing most of my childhood.

EDIT: Looking for pictures of it, I don't know what year it was. I do know it was one of the classier looking ones and she was very upset the day she had to part with it.

Further EDIT: I think it was a 71 Malibu. It was a neat car, that's all I remember, and I've never really been into cars. My father was into cars but much more into boat racing. At one time he held a world speed record for a Jersey Speed Skiff.

W1GUH
08-04-2009, 08:29 AM
Gotta ask....what type of mechanic are you?

The kind that can work on a car in a tux and white gloves & never get dirty (I've heard there are some like that), or the kind that is covered with black grease the minute you even start thinking about working on a car?

I'm definitely the latter. To me, the toughest part of any car job is the hours I spend at the sink scrubbing most of the grease off. Of course, I NEVER get it all, it sorta has to wear off.

Nice lookin' car, have fun!

I just learned what '58 Continentals looked like. Gonna get one of those? ;)

N8YX
08-04-2009, 09:21 AM
Gotta ask....what type of mechanic are you?

The kind that can work on a car in a tux and white gloves & never get dirty (I've heard there are some like that), or the kind that is covered with black grease the minute you even start thinking about working on a car?

I'm definitely the latter. To me, the toughest part of any car job is the hours I spend at the sink scrubbing most of the grease off. Of course, I NEVER get it all, it sorta has to wear off.
You can't trust a man who doesn't have a little dirt (or grease) under his fingernails.

w2amr
08-04-2009, 12:47 PM
Here ya go, George. Summit is pretty much right up the street from me - I've seen these niceties in stock:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/gbe-10800_w.jpg

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GBE-10800/?image=large

Save yourself a little time ... :lol:
Tnx Slappy, yer talking to somebody who has to save up to buy engine paint and gaskets.

w2amr
08-04-2009, 12:47 PM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:I don't think a 72 Chevelle qualifies as a clunker.
Izzat a small block? I hope you didn't lose the fuel pump push rod ... :lol:
I'm sure it's around here somewhere. :think

w2amr
08-04-2009, 12:51 PM
Don't let Obama see that. :snicker: :mrgreen:I don't think a 72 Chevelle qualifies as a clunker.

Neither do most of the cars being traded in for the clunker program, it seems. I'z jes making a funny anyway... Nice car. My mother had a Chevelle. I got carted around in that thing most of my childhood.

EDIT: Looking for pictures of it, I don't know what year it was. I do know it was one of the classier looking ones and she was very upset the day she had to part with it.

Further EDIT: I think it was a 71 Malibu. It was a neat car, that's all I remember, and I've never really been into cars. My father was into cars but much more into boat racing. At one time he held a world speed record for a Jersey Speed Skiff.
That body style went from 68 to 72. In 73 things got weird. :(

w2amr
08-04-2009, 12:52 PM
Gotta ask....what type of mechanic are you?


Caucasian

w2amr
08-04-2009, 12:54 PM
The engine was really funky looking, and it had several oil leaks. I pulled it out last weekend, and put it on the engine stand. After a good cleaning, I will replace all gaskets and seals. Then give it a couple of coats of Chevy orange, pull the torque converter out of the trans, and replace the front pump seal. Then on to the engine compartment. Clean, prep, and paint the inner fenders, firewall, frame, and front suspension. Hopefully I'll have the engine back in it before cold weather sets in.

KB3LAZ
08-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Gotta love GM...fuking orange engine block. :neener:

Someday I will post a pic of my baby. I will also have to see if i can dig up a pic of my first car. First car was a 73 roadrunner. May not be quite a classic but I have 81 Z28, dark metallic blue with three shade blue z28 decals and two tone air induction hood. The paint is not original, nor the intake, nor the stereo, nor the rims, but I like her. 62,000 original miles though.

I named her Lila....

w2amr
08-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Gotta love GM...fuking orange engine block. :neener:

Someday I will post a pic of my baby. I will also have to see if i can dig up a pic of my first car. First car was a 73 roadrunner. May not be quite a classic but I have 81 Z28, dark metallic blue with three shade blue z28 decals and two tone air induction hood. The paint is not original, nor the intake, nor the stereo, nor the rims, but I like her. 62,000 original miles though.

I named her Lila....
81 Z28 aye? What size engine is in it.

KB3LAZ
08-04-2009, 04:09 PM
Gotta love GM...fuking orange engine block. :neener:

Someday I will post a pic of my baby. I will also have to see if i can dig up a pic of my first car. First car was a 73 roadrunner. May not be quite a classic but I have 81 Z28, dark metallic blue with three shade blue z28 decals and two tone air induction hood. The paint is not original, nor the intake, nor the stereo, nor the rims, but I like her. 62,000 original miles though.

I named her Lila....
81 Z28 aye? What size engine is in it.
350 with like no mods, lol. Hey, it works for me. I cant afford the gas as it is. :lol: It is the from the first half of the year. I am not sure if they switched body style half way through 81 or 82...Not sure exactly what it tops out at but it will peg the speedometer which stops at 85.

The roadrunner had a 318...big car little engine.

w2amr
08-06-2009, 02:48 AM
When I finish the engine I'm going to go with this dress up kit. Either chrome
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2478/3794764310_99382f7873.jpg

Or I my go with a more industrial look in black and red, which matches the exterior of the car
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2441/3793945739_4d317027c2.jpg

w2amr
08-10-2009, 04:30 AM
After I put the engine on the stand, I pulled the rear main cap to check out the seal. The main bearings are pretty much shot. Now it looks like the engine will have to be rebuilt. :boohoo:

w2amr
08-24-2009, 05:31 AM
I got the engine and transmission out, and the engine compartment including firewall is stripped. The plan is to push the car outside next weekend, put it on jack stands, and power wash the underside of the body, frame, suspension & steering, firewall , and inner fenders. Then I can get the car back inside and start prepping it for paint.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3852140304_e2ecea6de1_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3852138860_54f622941c_o.jpg

ad4mg
08-24-2009, 05:54 AM
Good time to have a look at that rag joint at the base of the steering column, George. Maybe also replace the heater core? Looks pretty accessible with the engine out.

Is that a collector I see on the end of the exhaust pipe? Gonna sandblast & paint the headers while you're at it?

You must be into pain ... I see you pulled both the master cylinder and the WW motor. I'd have left those SOB's on there ... both are very waterproof! :lol:

Oh, yeah ... great time to clean and lube the speedometer cable too.

Don't you love shade tree mechanics poking their fingers into your fun? :rofl:

PA5COR
08-24-2009, 08:03 AM
Show offs...

:snicker:

Nice stuff...

Was end 70's early 80's i had some nice US cars...Blast..

2.5 Liter Turbo diesel all 105 Horsepower now... :wall

w2amr
08-24-2009, 11:48 AM
Good time to have a look at that rag joint at the base of the steering column, George. Maybe also replace the heater core? Looks pretty accessible with the engine out.

Is that a collector I see on the end of the exhaust pipe? Gonna sandblast & paint the headers while you're at it?

You must be into pain ... I see you pulled both the master cylinder and the WW motor. I'd have left those SOB's on there ... both are very waterproof! :lol:

Oh, yeah ... great time to clean and lube the speedometer cable too.

Don't you love shade tree mechanics poking their fingers into your fun? :rofl:
Actually the steering box is shot so that is going to come off along with the steering shaft
I picked up a new CHROME power brake booster and master cylinder so the old ones had to come off anyway. The WW assy is funky looking so that has to be cleaned and painted.
Nice catch on the headers. They will be blasted and then painted.
The heater core seems to be ok.

N4VGB
08-24-2009, 11:49 AM
Don't you love shade tree mechanics poking their fingers into your fun? :rofl:


That's Leyna's job, biting off poking fingers. Be careful! :yes:

N8YX
08-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Was up at Summit Racing on Friday night picking up a few parts for one of my projects.

They have a blown mouse motor on their showroom floor which would look real nice in your Chevelle, George.

N4VGB
08-24-2009, 03:04 PM
Or I my go with a more industrial look in black and red, which matches the exterior of the car
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2441/3793945739_4d317027c2.jpg



The "industrial look" would be my choice, chrome and polished aluminum are starting to bore me. :yes:

N4VGB
08-24-2009, 03:15 PM
Was up at Summit Racing on Friday night picking up a few parts for one of my projects.

They have a blown mouse motor on their showroom floor which would look real nice in your Chevelle, George.



For many moons our local speed equipment shop was Honest Charlie. Charlie had a sure fire way to get his hands into every young man's pockets around here, he'd finance that gear for you! :shock:

It was SOP every Friday evening and Saturday morning to see his parking lot full, mostly from young men making payments! :lol:

Yep, I was one of them. :oops:

w2amr
08-24-2009, 03:31 PM
Was up at Summit Racing on Friday night picking up a few parts for one of my projects.

They have a blown mouse motor on their showroom floor which would look real nice in your Chevelle, George.
All it takes is money I don't have. :boohoo:

w2amr
08-24-2009, 03:32 PM
Was up at Summit Racing on Friday night picking up a few parts for one of my projects.

They have a blown mouse motor on their showroom floor which would look real nice in your Chevelle, George.



For many moons our local speed equipment shop was Honest Charlie. Charlie had a sure fire way to get his hands into every young man's pockets around here, he'd finance that gear for you! :shock:

It was SOP every Friday evening and Saturday morning to see his parking lot full, mostly from young men making payments! :lol:

Yep, I was one of them. :oops:
Ah yes, I remember seeing that decal at the drag strip many times.

N4VGB
08-24-2009, 04:33 PM
Ah yes, I remember seeing that decal at the drag strip many times.



Of course, nobody else would finance that stuff for you! :yes: :lol:

The place has now reopened but it's not exactly the same.

w2amr
08-24-2009, 05:42 PM
Remember this one Mack?
http://www.johnforceracestation.com/pics/1628.jpg

N8YX
08-24-2009, 05:43 PM
Remember this one Mack?
http://www.johnforceracestation.com/pics/1628.jpg
I remember that logo on Thrush mufflers.

w2amr
08-24-2009, 06:44 PM
Remember this one Mack?
http://www.johnforceracestation.com/pics/1628.jpg
I remember that logo on Thrush mufflers.
Close, but no........ CIGAR. :rofl:

http://www.cartype.com/pics/410/small/thrush_mufflers_69.jpg

N4VGB
08-24-2009, 07:41 PM
Close, but no........ CIGAR. :rofl:



Clay Smith cams, good stuff, way back when.

Thrush mufflers, had a set on my first big block Camaro back in '69.

:shock: :shock: :shock: GOD I am sooooo old. :shock: :shock: :shock:

W7XF
08-24-2009, 07:46 PM
Here ya go, George. Summit is pretty much right up the street from me - I've seen these niceties in stock:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/gbe-10800_w.jpg

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GBE-10800/?image=large

Save yourself a little time ... :lol:
Tnx Slappy, yer talking to somebody who has to save up to buy engine paint and gaskets.

Or make your own gaskets out of silicone sealant and old cereal boxes?? :shifty

WA4TM
08-24-2009, 08:26 PM
For many moons our local speed equipment shop was Honest Charlie. Charlie had a sure fire way to get his hands into every young man's pockets around here, he'd finance that gear for you! :shock:

It was SOP every Friday evening and Saturday morning to see his parking lot full, mostly from young men making payments! :lol:

Yep, I was one of them. :oops:


You too???? Been there, done that!!! :yes:

N1LAF
08-24-2009, 09:50 PM
Close, but no........ CIGAR. :rofl:



Clay Smith cams, good stuff, way back when.

Thrush mufflers, had a set on my first big block Camaro back in '69.

:shock: :shock: :shock: GOD I am sooooo old. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I also had dual thrush mufflers on my '70 Mustang Mach 1...

KG4CGC
08-25-2009, 01:29 AM
But nothing made a car run faster than Mickey Thompson valve covers.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/Pete86.jpg

w2amr
08-25-2009, 02:20 AM
Here ya go, George. Summit is pretty much right up the street from me - I've seen these niceties in stock:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/gbe-10800_w.jpg

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GBE-10800/?image=large

Save yourself a little time ... :lol:
Tnx Slappy, yer talking to somebody who has to save up to buy engine paint and gaskets.

Or make your own gaskets out of silicone sealant and old cereal boxes?? :shifty
It's not quite that bad. :lol:

w2amr
08-25-2009, 02:20 AM
Close, but no........ CIGAR. :rofl:



Clay Smith cams, good stuff, way back when.

Thrush mufflers, had a set on my first big block Camaro back in '69.

:shock: :shock: :shock: GOD I am sooooo old. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I also had dual thrush mufflers on my '70 Mustang Mach 1...
Flowmaster is top dog now.

w2amr
08-25-2009, 02:21 AM
Close, but no........ CIGAR. :rofl:



Clay Smith cams, good stuff, way back when.

Thrush mufflers, had a set on my first big block Camaro back in '69.

:shock: :shock: :shock: GOD I am sooooo old. :shock: :shock: :shock:
I feel yer pain.

kc7jty
08-25-2009, 02:27 AM
http://www.motorbrandsusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/M10-HR-MNT9-2T.jpg

w2amr
08-25-2009, 03:00 AM
http://www.motorbrandsusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/M10-HR-MNT9-2T.jpg
Another good one.

w2amr
08-25-2009, 03:01 AM
But nothing made a car run faster than Mickey Thompson valve covers.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/Pete86.jpg
Good for an additional 50 HP!

N4VGB
08-25-2009, 01:48 PM
http://www.motorbrandsusa.com/v/vspfiles/photos/M10-HR-MNT9-2T.jpg

I always loved those Moon eyes T shirts, on braless, well endowed women!!! :yes: :drool:

My how those eyes moved around. :rofl:

w2amr
09-03-2009, 03:22 AM
Sept Update..........

The power washing is done. Trying to get the inner fenders off. Frozen bolts snapping off, Rusted rounded bolt heads. FU*K ! :wall

KG4CGC
09-03-2009, 03:27 AM
You wanted one of them drill dandy broken screw removers anyway.
Ah well, no project is ever without it's little set backs and things like screws and screws, always seem to be the most innocent little things until you don't have the right ones. Then it's :wall

w2amr
09-03-2009, 03:55 AM
You wanted one of them drill dandy broken screw removers anyway.
Ah well, no project is ever without it's little set backs and things like screws and screws, always seem to be the most innocent little things until you don't have the right ones. Then it's :wall
Them bolt head don't stand a chance against my trusty pneumatic cut off wheel. :agree:

KG4CGC
09-03-2009, 04:00 AM
making parts from scratch can be fun too. Epoxy putty is great stuff.

w2amr
09-03-2009, 04:51 AM
making parts from scratch can be fun too. Epoxy putty is great stuff.
Huh?

KG4CGC
09-03-2009, 04:58 AM
Once it's set you can saw it, grind it, chisel it, thread it, sand it. Over a 1001 uses!

w2amr
09-03-2009, 05:04 AM
Once it's set you can saw it, grind it, chisel it, thread it, sand it. Over a 1001 uses!
Oh I get you. In this case I grind the head off the bolts, and after I get the fender off, Drill out the rest of the bolt and tap the hole. Time consuming and a real pain in the scrot.

KG4CGC
09-03-2009, 05:06 AM
Well I must say, you are quite ingenious if you're putting the "scrot" into it.

w2amr
09-03-2009, 05:35 AM
Well I must say, you are quite ingenious if you're putting the "scrot" into it.220, 221, whatever it takes. :lol:

KG4CGC
09-03-2009, 05:46 AM
More fabrication huh?

W1GUH
09-03-2009, 10:12 AM
You wanted one of them drill dandy broken screw removers anyway.
Ah well, no project is ever without it's little set backs and things like screws and screws, always seem to be the most innocent little things until you don't have the right ones. Then it's :wall

Or find the right one but it comes with long-term consequences! :neener:

w2amr
09-03-2009, 01:10 PM
I got the inner fenders off this afternoon. Not too bad, I only had to cut the heads off of three bolts each side. The disassembly is almost completed. I just have to remove the steering box, steering shaft, Brake lines, brake rotors and calipers. Then its time for scraping , wire brushing, sanding , and finally painting.
I'm taking your advise Luke, I'll replace the heater core before I put the front end back together. :agree:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/3885035596_755afd4d2d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3885032450_d74222774a_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/3884236147_2298fdaed6_o.jpg

N4VGB
09-03-2009, 02:36 PM
Damn George, what a mess you've made! :rofl:

w2amr
09-03-2009, 02:44 PM
Damn George, what a mess you've made! :rofl:
I know. And This all started as simple detailing under the hood.

N4VGB
09-03-2009, 02:53 PM
Damn George, what a mess you've made! :rofl:
I know. And This all started as simple detailing under the hood.

Honestly, I don't think that I've seen one of these "simple" projects that didn't become a little out of control? :chin:

You'll know your in really deep crap if the thought of any "body off" work starts to swirl around in your head. :yes:

w2amr
09-03-2009, 04:08 PM
Damn George, what a mess you've made! :rofl:
I know. And This all started as simple detailing under the hood.

Honestly, I don't think that I've seen one of these "simple" projects that didn't become a little out of control? :chin:

You'll know your in really deep crap if the thought of any "body off" work starts to swirl around in your head. :yes:
I already thought about it. :lol:
Not enough room, I can hardly move in the garage now. The trunk is full of parts and now I'm stuffing things under my work benches and against the wall. The trans is on the transmission jack, and the engine is on the stand.
HELP!

w2amr
09-03-2009, 04:27 PM
I was pleasantly surprised when I removed the inner fender wells. These cars are notorious for rotting out at the bottom corners of the firewall, but This car is solid. The floor pans and rockers are also solid. Somebody did install belt line quarters on both sides though.

N4VGB
09-03-2009, 08:23 PM
I was pleasantly surprised when I removed the inner fender wells. These cars are notorious for rotting out at the bottom corners of the firewall, but This car is solid. The floor pans and rockers are also solid. Somebody did install belt line quarters on both sides though.

No body cancer, dats very good.

I had one of those feel good moments on the way home today. Remember those awful lime green (almost a flourescent green) Dodge Coronets of the '60s? Had one pull up beside doing a bad rumpity rump sound, looked over and it was an original 440 Magnum with the big hood scope that almost covers the whole hood. Huge rear tires and vertical pistol grip shifter. Sweet! :yes:

I finally look at the occupants and !?!?!? :shock: It's the proverbial little old man and lady! So I honked the horn and gave the old gent the little finger twirl to spin those big tires up a little, he looked around and when the light turned green he lit those puppies up big time! It was sooooo cool. The little old lady sat there like nothing happened at all??? :rofl:

So I caught up to them and gave the little old man a thumbs up, he was grinning big time, without even looking in my direction the little old lady gave me 2 thumbs up. :shock:

Grandpa and grandma hot rodders, life can still be very good at times. :D

kb2crk
09-04-2009, 12:23 AM
I was pleasantly surprised when I removed the inner fender wells. These cars are notorious for rotting out at the bottom corners of the firewall, but This car is solid. The floor pans and rockers are also solid. Somebody did install belt line quarters on both sides though.

No body cancer, dats very good.

I had one of those feel good moments on the way home today. Remember those awful lime green (almost a flourescent green) Dodge Coronets of the '60s? Had one pull up beside doing a bad rumpity rump sound, looked over and it was an original 440 Magnum with the big hood scope that almost covers the whole hood. Huge rear tires and vertical pistol grip shifter. Sweet! :yes:

I finally look at the occupants and !?!?!? :shock: It's the proverbial little old man and lady! So I honked the horn and gave the old gent the little finger twirl to spin those big tires up a little, he looked around and when the light turned green he lit those puppies up big time! It was sooooo cool. The little old lady sat there like nothing happened at all??? :rofl:

So I caught up to them and gave the little old man a thumbs up, he was grinning big time, without even looking in my direction the little old lady gave me 2 thumbs up. :shock:

Grandpa and grandma hot rodders, life can still be very good at times. :D

that color was called sub-lime

w2amr
09-04-2009, 02:23 AM
I was pleasantly surprised when I removed the inner fender wells. These cars are notorious for rotting out at the bottom corners of the firewall, but This car is solid. The floor pans and rockers are also solid. Somebody did install belt line quarters on both sides though.

No body cancer, dats very good.

I had one of those feel good moments on the way home today. Remember those awful lime green (almost a flourescent green) Dodge Coronets of the '60s? Had one pull up beside doing a bad rumpity rump sound, looked over and it was an original 440 Magnum with the big hood scope that almost covers the whole hood. Huge rear tires and vertical pistol grip shifter. Sweet! :yes:

I finally look at the occupants and !?!?!? :shock: It's the proverbial little old man and lady! So I honked the horn and gave the old gent the little finger twirl to spin those big tires up a little, he looked around and when the light turned green he lit those puppies up big time! It was sooooo cool. The little old lady sat there like nothing happened at all??? :rofl:

So I caught up to them and gave the little old man a thumbs up, he was grinning big time, without even looking in my direction the little old lady gave me 2 thumbs up. :shock:

Grandpa and grandma hot rodders, life can still be very good at times. :D
That's one of those(Wish I could have seen that) moments.
:lol:

W5GA
09-04-2009, 10:23 AM
I already thought about it. :lol:
Not enough room, I can hardly move in the garage now. The trunk is full of parts and now I'm stuffing things under my work benches and against the wall. The trans is on the transmission jack, and the engine is on the stand. HELP!

The trailer is hooked to the truck, I can be there Wednesday to relieve you of your misery. :snicker:

That looks like a pretty clean Chevelle sample! Is this a 502 candidate?

w2amr
09-04-2009, 11:35 AM
I already thought about it. :lol:
Not enough room, I can hardly move in the garage now. The trunk is full of parts and now I'm stuffing things under my work benches and against the wall. The trans is on the transmission jack, and the engine is on the stand. HELP!

The trailer is hooked to the truck, I can be there Wednesday to relieve you of your misery. :snicker:

That looks like a pretty clean Chevelle sample! Is this a 502 candidate?
I might consider a big block, but the car has the numbers matching engine so I'm going to stick with that.

w2amr
09-05-2009, 01:52 AM
I got the heater box out of the car yesterday. Sure enough , the heater core had been leaking. While I'm at it I'll replace the blower motor too.

w2amr
09-05-2009, 08:08 AM
I just got another surprise, this one not so pleasant. Upon closer examination I notice the rubber grease boots on the ball joints are split. I also notice that the top ball joint are riveted to the upper control arms. This means it has the original ball joints, and they all have to go. I can drill out the rivets to replace the top ones, no big deal, The bottom ones are pressed into the lower control arms. This means the lower control arms are going to have to come off. :(

N8YX
09-05-2009, 08:15 AM
"The more I look; the more I find...."

Projects are exactly that. Amazing what one well-intentioned little gasket change will snowball into, isn't it?

w2amr
09-05-2009, 08:19 AM
"The more I look; the more I find...."

Projects are exactly that. Amazing what one well-intentioned little gasket change will snowball into, isn't it?
Boy I'll say.

KG4CGC
09-05-2009, 12:33 PM
"The more I look; the more I find...."

Projects are exactly that. Amazing what one well-intentioned little gasket change will snowball into, isn't it?
Boy I'll say.
"Boy Howdy"
Well, now you have till next Spring/Summer to do some serious upgrades to the suspension.
Wishbone with coil over double A-arm.
I'm kidding. BUT I CAN DREAM DAMMIT!

w2amr
09-05-2009, 12:37 PM
"The more I look; the more I find...."

Projects are exactly that. Amazing what one well-intentioned little gasket change will snowball into, isn't it?
Boy I'll say.
"Boy Howdy"
Well, now you have till next Spring/Summer to do some serious upgrades to the suspension.
Wishbone with coil over double A-arm.
I'm kidding. BUT I CAN DREAM DAMMIT!
No Man, gotta go for the old gasser look. Straight axel and leaf springs. :dance

KG4CGC
09-05-2009, 12:42 PM
No Man, gotta go for the old gasser look. Straight axel and leaf springs. :dance
Reminds me of the Revell model of the 57 Chevy I built in 6th grade. You could build it out 3 different ways and that was one of them.

w2amr
09-05-2009, 01:16 PM
No Man, gotta go for the old gasser look. Straight axel and leaf springs. :dance
Reminds me of the Revell model of the 57 Chevy I built in 6th grade. You could build it out 3 different ways and that was one of them.
They didn't handle worth a sh*t, but they looked cool. :lol:

KG4CGC
09-05-2009, 01:24 PM
Lots of them saw the drag strip.

w2amr
09-07-2009, 11:09 AM
It turned out to be a very productive weekend. All components are removed from the firewall and frame. It took an hour just to remove the rusted bolts that hold the lower control arms to the frame brackets. I'll be glad to get back to work tomorrow, to get some rest.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/3896183221_55bb8683ed_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/3897011594_be155ea3a3_o.jpg

KG4CGC
09-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Cool.

ad4mg
09-07-2009, 05:52 PM
I got the heater box out of the car yesterday. Sure enough , the heater core had been leaking. While I'm at it I'll replace the blower motor too.
Yoda is pleased to hear this ... :lol:

On the lower ball joints ... a shop with a bearing press can push those old ones out of the control arms, and squeeze in the new ones!

N8YX
09-07-2009, 06:02 PM
Very cool, George!

I got my project bike completed over the weekend - this is the one which has an air-ride system which I designed from scratch, LED lights for turn/brake, gauges in the radiator pods, etc. Pix forthcoming when it's fired up and driven to a suitably photogenic place...

w2amr
09-08-2009, 01:21 AM
I got the heater box out of the car yesterday. Sure enough , the heater core had been leaking. While I'm at it I'll replace the blower motor too.
Yoda is pleased to hear this ... :lol:

On the lower ball joints ... a shop with a bearing press can push those old ones out of the control arms, and squeeze in the new ones!
That's the plan. The top ones are easy, they are riveted in . I just have to drill them out, and they give you nuts and bolts with the new joints. I'll have My local machine shop press the lower joints and all 8 control arm bushings , which are also shot.

w2amr
09-08-2009, 01:25 AM
Very cool, George!

I got my project bike completed over the weekend - this is the one which has an air-ride system which I designed from scratch, LED lights for turn/brake, gauges in the radiator pods, etc. Pix forthcoming when it's fired up and driven to a suitably photogenic place...
Glad to hear it's finished. Is it de bugged yet?

N8YX
09-08-2009, 07:04 AM
Very cool, George!

I got my project bike completed over the weekend - this is the one which has an air-ride system which I designed from scratch, LED lights for turn/brake, gauges in the radiator pods, etc. Pix forthcoming when it's fired up and driven to a suitably photogenic place...
Glad to hear it's finished. Is it de bugged yet?
Assuming

A) No leaks in the air manifold;
B) Power connections for the right-saddlebag-mounted CD changer are correct;
C) I can come up with an easy way of adapting 1/8" NPT senders to 1/8" BPT or 12/14mm metric fittings for coolant temp and oil pressure;
D) Nothing is found wrong with my newly painted gas tank

Yes, it's done.

Bike was running when the disassembly process began...rather, it was stored for winter last November and over the winter I've been working on bits of it. Finding the electric air pressure gauge was the key to making the whole project work, as was the reuse of a GL1200 Gold Wing compressor/drier assembly. I also used the '1200's air manifold, lines and rear shock manifold...Progressive Suspension air shocks and line adapter kit. The control circuitry was all my own doing, and the capability exists to add auto-leveling to the setup if I wish to incorporate it.

If the weather cooperates this week I'll add a bit of fuel to the tank and fire the engine up, then check the compressor when it's slaved to the bike's electrics. Previous tests were done with a separate DC supply.

w2amr
09-09-2009, 03:22 AM
This looks like the way to go, a front end rebuilding kit. Upper and lower ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rods, adjuster sleeves, sway bar bushings and links, for $150.

http://www.chevellesrus.com/product_info.php?products_id=2738

N4VGB
09-09-2009, 11:58 AM
This looks like the way to go, a front end rebuilding kit. Upper and lower ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rods, adjuster sleeves, sway bar bushings and links, for $150.

http://www.chevellesrus.com/product_info.php?products_id=2738

Yep. :yes:

N8YX
09-09-2009, 06:33 PM
My "project" is finally done.

Note to self: Be sure to tighten and check all the damned air lines before installing the bodywork... :roll:

Suspension is holding pressure and the rest of the details are buttoned up. Pix in the "Motorcycle Discussion Thread" when I get some good ones.

N4VGB
09-09-2009, 09:01 PM
My "project" is finally done.



Did you make as big a mess as George?

w2amr
09-10-2009, 02:33 AM
My "project" is finally done.



Did you make as big a mess as George?He would have to dismantle 10 motorcycles.
:(

w2amr
09-10-2009, 02:34 AM
My "project" is finally done.

Note to self: Be sure to tighten and check all the damned air lines before installing the bodywork... :roll:


It's always something.

w2amr
09-12-2009, 05:16 AM
That's it, everything that had to be removed has been removed. Yesterday I removed the fender extensions that hold the lights ,and the hood pins and cables. Now I have clear access to the radiator support assy.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3911369337_9770e96e8b_o.jpg

N4VGB
09-12-2009, 07:52 AM
Oh my, look what George did to that Chevelle. :shock:

w2amr
09-12-2009, 09:09 AM
Oh my, look what George did to that Chevelle. :shock:
Is there a book that will tell me how to put this thing back together?

kf0rt
09-12-2009, 09:19 AM
http://www.gregsonline.com/eshop/Html/product-info/assembly/3170.jpg

N4VGB
09-12-2009, 12:32 PM
Oh my, look what George did to that Chevelle. :shock:
Is there a book that will tell me how to put this thing back together?

:rofl:

w2amr
09-12-2009, 01:20 PM
Actually the last Chevelle I did was worse than this. At one point , From the firewall out there was nothing but the two frame rails .
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3913200184_31c6c5447a.jpg

w2amr
09-14-2009, 03:13 PM
I got the package with all the front end parts on Friday. Made in China. :wall

KG4CGC
09-14-2009, 03:14 PM
Send it back.

W5GA
09-14-2009, 03:33 PM
I got the package with all the front end parts on Friday. Made in China. :wall

Who'd you get it from?

w2amr
09-14-2009, 04:11 PM
Send it back.
Then I have to pay to ship it back. The quality doesn't look too bad, I'll just keep it I guess.

w2amr
09-14-2009, 04:12 PM
I got the package with all the front end parts on Friday. Made in China. :wall

Who'd you get it from?
Big Tony
http://www.chevellesrus.com/product_info.php?products_id=2738

w2amr
09-17-2009, 04:12 PM
Well, the wire wheeling is finished, and I got the first coat of rust converter on the front half of the frame. Nice to finally see some progress.

N4VGB
09-17-2009, 05:45 PM
Well, the wire wheeling is finished, and I got the first coat of rust converter on the front half of the frame. Nice to finally see some progress.

Prove it, where's the pics!!!

w2amr
09-17-2009, 06:07 PM
Well, the wire wheeling is finished, and I got the first coat of rust converter on the front half of the frame. Nice to finally see some progress.

Prove it, where's the pics!!!
Looking at rust converter isn't very entertaining.

N4VGB
09-17-2009, 06:15 PM
Well, the wire wheeling is finished, and I got the first coat of rust converter on the front half of the frame. Nice to finally see some progress.

Prove it, where's the pics!!!
Looking at rust converter isn't very entertaining.

Probably not for any but the pure gearheads, like me. :D

Which brand did you use?

n0eq
09-17-2009, 07:56 PM
But nothing made a car run faster than Mickey Thompson valve covers.



If you invert the air cleaner cover you'll get 11 more HP
and 16% better gas mileage.


Lumpy

You played on "The Love Boat"?
Yes. White tux, huge sideburns.

www.LumpyMusic.com (http://www.LumpyMusic.com)

KG4CGC
09-17-2009, 07:58 PM
But nothing made a car run faster than Mickey Thompson valve covers.



If you invert the air cleaner cover you'll get 11 more HP
and 16% better gas mileage.


Lumpy


You forgot to mention that throaty sound when you hit the gas.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt!

w2amr
09-18-2009, 02:15 AM
Well, the wire wheeling is finished, and I got the first coat of rust converter on the front half of the frame. Nice to finally see some progress.

Prove it, where's the pics!!!
Looking at rust converter isn't very entertaining.

Probably not for any but the pure gearheads, like me. :D

Which brand did you use?
I'm using this stuff.
http://www.eastwood.com/catalog/product/view/id/4686/s/eastwood-rust-converter/category/26/

KG4CGC
09-18-2009, 02:26 AM
Fine business but if you have any Granola Rocks™ you want photographed ......

w2amr
09-18-2009, 04:20 AM
Hummmmmmm. :chin:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engines/Blueprint-Engines-SB-Chevy-Budget-Stomper-w-Cast-Iron-Heads-383ci-330HP-385TQ/1197262/10002/-1

KG4CGC
09-18-2009, 12:14 PM
When they say "budget" in that, what do they go budget on?

W5GA
09-18-2009, 12:19 PM
When they say "budget" in that, what do they go budget on?

The rotating assembly and heads. Crank is cast iron v. forged steel, limiting power output due to limited RPM capability. Same with the connecting rods.

Iron heads - you pay a weight penalty, and most of 'em won't flow as much air as aftermarket aluminum guys.

But it IS a cheap 383.

KG4CGC
09-18-2009, 12:24 PM
Thank You. I feel like Buddha now.

N4VGB
09-18-2009, 01:55 PM
Hummmmmmm. :chin:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engines/Blueprint-Engines-SB-Chevy-Budget-Stomper-w-Cast-Iron-Heads-383ci-330HP-385TQ/1197262/10002/-1

Hang on to your sanity George! You said that was a "numbers matching" Chevelle and YOU DO NOT change the engine in a numbers matching car!

Come on man, snap out of it!!! :slap:

w2amr
09-18-2009, 02:05 PM
Hummmmmmm. :chin:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engines/Blueprint-Engines-SB-Chevy-Budget-Stomper-w-Cast-Iron-Heads-383ci-330HP-385TQ/1197262/10002/-1

Hang on to your sanity George! You said that was a "numbers matching" Chevelle and YOU DO NOT change the engine in a numbers matching car!

Come on man, snap out of it!!! :slap:It was just a thought. I'll stick with what I have.

N4VGB
09-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Hummmmmmm. :chin:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engines/Blueprint-Engines-SB-Chevy-Budget-Stomper-w-Cast-Iron-Heads-383ci-330HP-385TQ/1197262/10002/-1

Hang on to your sanity George! You said that was a "numbers matching" Chevelle and YOU DO NOT change the engine in a numbers matching car!

Come on man, snap out of it!!! :slap:It was just a thought. I'll stick with what I have.

Barrett-Jackson thanks you. :lol:

w2amr
09-18-2009, 02:23 PM
When they say "budget" in that, what do they go budget on?

The rotating assembly and heads. Crank is cast iron v. forged steel, limiting power output due to limited RPM capability. Same with the connecting rods.

Iron heads - you pay a weight penalty, and most of 'em won't flow as much air as aftermarket aluminum guys.

But it IS a cheap 383.
If you're looking for a street stroker motor it's a great deal.

w2amr
09-18-2009, 02:25 PM
Hummmmmmm. :chin:
http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engines/Blueprint-Engines-SB-Chevy-Budget-Stomper-w-Cast-Iron-Heads-383ci-330HP-385TQ/1197262/10002/-1

Hang on to your sanity George! You said that was a "numbers matching" Chevelle and YOU DO NOT change the engine in a numbers matching car!

Come on man, snap out of it!!! :slap:It was just a thought. I'll stick with what I have.

Barrett-Jackson thanks you. :lol:
I hope it doesn't end up there.

N8YX
09-18-2009, 02:29 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...

w2amr
09-18-2009, 02:48 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.

N8YX
09-18-2009, 03:45 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.
The money these days is in "time machines", George.

W5GA
09-18-2009, 03:53 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.
The money these days is in "time machines", George.

George, did you see that GM is building a total of 427 ZL-1 engines this year, using the original tooling, after which the tooling will be destroyed? If you have to ask how much...

N4VGB
09-18-2009, 04:06 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.

Yep. :cry: :cry: :cry:

w2amr
09-18-2009, 04:08 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.
The money these days is in "time machines", George.

George, did you see that GM is building a total of 427 ZL-1 engines this year, using the original tooling, after which the tooling will be destroyed? If you have to ask how much...I couldn't even afford the bare block.

w2amr
09-18-2009, 04:10 PM
World Castings...is turning out neat mouse and rat motors of all-aluminum construction. 427 can be had for ~$12K from Summit and it's spec'd to over 600HP...Geez, I remember when you could buy an L-88 427 crate motor for $1500.
The money these days is in "time machines", George.Take a ride back and buy up as many tri fives as possible, for about $50 a pop. :lol:

W5GA
09-18-2009, 04:14 PM
I couldn't even afford the bare block.

Me either. Wouldn't fit well in a '96 T/A without a tall building to drop it from in any event.

w2amr
09-19-2009, 01:57 PM
I got the second coat of rust converter on the frame and radiator support, and the radiator support header is in prime. Now we're cookin'. :dance:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3935051636_5c06bdfaba.jpg

N4VGB
09-19-2009, 02:04 PM
I got the second coat of rust converter on the frame and radiator support, and the radiator support header is in prime. Now we're cookin'. :dance:



Very sweet! :dance: :clap:

w2amr
09-19-2009, 02:15 PM
I got the second coat of rust converter on the frame and radiator support, and the radiator support header is in prime. Now we're cookin'. :dance:



Very sweet! :dance: :clap:
If you ever want to paint something that's rusty Mack, get some of this stuff. It works great.

N4VGB
09-19-2009, 02:54 PM
I got the second coat of rust converter on the frame and radiator support, and the radiator support header is in prime. Now we're cookin'. :dance:



Very sweet! :dance: :clap:
If you ever want to paint something that's rusty Mack, get some of this stuff. It works great.

Yeah, I've heard different reports on brands of "rust converters". Eastwood is a good company and not known for selling crap that doesn't work.

It looks good George.

w2amr
09-19-2009, 05:24 PM
On to the cowl and firewall.

N8YX
09-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Any of you folks ever use POR (Paint Over Rust) products?

I got hold of a gas-tank sealer kit of theirs last year, to fix a tank I had picked up on the 'Net. Its previous owner had attempted to seal the thing with Kreem. The POR folks include a stripper for removal of that very stuff and I ended up having to order extra bottles of stripper to get the Kreem completely out. Once the tank was prepped - a week-long process - I poured the sealant in and spent about an hour swirling it around inside before putting the tank down to dry. The tank in question was a 7-gallon one-piece unit and it took every bit of the pint of sealer/paint to coat the inside properly.

A week's drying time later and it was good to go. I ultimately had a buddy of mine repaint the outside of the tank, because no matter how careful you are with the stripper and prep solutions, they're going to find a way to uglify the paint ... :-|

KG4CGC
09-19-2009, 08:40 PM
I heard all that I did.

w2amr
09-21-2009, 03:06 PM
Hummmmm #2
:chin:
http://high-performance-engines.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ATK&Product_Code=HP29

N4VGB
09-21-2009, 03:33 PM
Any of you folks ever use POR (Paint Over Rust) products?



Yep, that's the only one I've ever used.

N4VGB
09-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Hummmmm #2
:chin:
http://high-performance-engines.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ATK&Product_Code=HP29

Hey Leyna, bite George on the butt quickly. He's off in fantasy land and considering breaking up a "numbers matching" car again. :shock:

w2amr
09-21-2009, 03:55 PM
Any of you folks ever use POR (Paint Over Rust) products?

I got hold of a gas-tank sealer kit of theirs last year, to fix a tank I had picked up on the 'Net. Its previous owner had attempted to seal the thing with Kreem. The POR folks include a stripper for removal of that very stuff and I ended up having to order extra bottles of stripper to get the Kreem completely out. Once the tank was prepped - a week-long process - I poured the sealant in and spent about an hour swirling it around inside before putting the tank down to dry. The tank in question was a 7-gallon one-piece unit and it took every bit of the pint of sealer/paint to coat the inside properly.

A week's drying time later and it was good to go. I ultimately had a buddy of mine repaint the outside of the tank, because no matter how careful you are with the stripper and prep solutions, they're going to find a way to uglify the paint ... :-|I did the tank for one of my old iron head sportsters with that stuff. It worked great.
:agree:

w2amr
09-21-2009, 03:58 PM
Hummmmm #2
:chin:
http://high-performance-engines.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ATK&Product_Code=HP29

Hey Leyna, bite George on the butt quickly. He's off in fantasy land and considering breaking up a "numbers matching" car again. :shock:Hey, a girl can change her mind. :lol:
My buddy is trying to get me to buy a worked 402 big block thats sitting in his garage.
:drool
The only problem with it , it has a spun rod bearing.

N4VGB
09-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Hummmmm #2
:chin:
http://high-performance-engines.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ATK&Product_Code=HP29

Hey Leyna, bite George on the butt quickly. He's off in fantasy land and considering breaking up a "numbers matching" car again. :shock:Hey, a girl can change her mind. :lol:
My buddy is trying to get me to buy a worked 402 big block thats sitting in his garage.
:drool
The only problem with it , it has a spun rod bearing.

You would save the original engine???

w2amr
09-21-2009, 06:38 PM
Hummmmm #2
:chin:
http://high-performance-engines.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ATK&Product_Code=HP29

Hey Leyna, bite George on the butt quickly. He's off in fantasy land and considering breaking up a "numbers matching" car again. :shock:Hey, a girl can change her mind. :lol:
My buddy is trying to get me to buy a worked 402 big block thats sitting in his garage.
:drool
The only problem with it , it has a spun rod bearing.

You would save the original engine???Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............

N4VGB
09-21-2009, 08:04 PM
Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............



Yep, lots of expense and work on the big block route.

But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.

The GM Performance lineup is confusing about what's a small block and what's a big block also? Looks like on some engines it would properly be called a half breed now?

The Chevy factory 402 was a good engine. Not a huge performer but a good torque producer. Should make a good street engine.

W7XF
09-21-2009, 09:48 PM
George...
Have you had the block magnafluxed yet? IMO if the matching number block is structurally sound, I'd just totally reman THAT block to keep the matching numbers. Plus, the crate engines you've been showing have some disturbing anomolies..
if this was my rebuild, I'd spend the extra for FORGED crank and rods. Powder cast rods and a cast crank IMO are just asking for a premature teardown or worse.

kb2crk
09-22-2009, 12:26 AM
the 402 is a good engine considering it was called a 400 in the big cars and a 396 in the mid size like the chevelle. it was the smog motor version of the 396. easy to build up but still a big block. rebuild the original motor you will be better off.

w2amr
09-22-2009, 02:48 AM
the 402 is a good engine considering it was called a 400 in the big cars and a 396 in the mid size like the chevelle. it was the smog motor version of the 396. easy to build up but still a big block. rebuild the original motor you will be better off.Never heard of a 400 big block. I think the 400 was a small block engine. the 402 block was nothing more than a 30 over 396.

w2amr
09-22-2009, 02:54 AM
George...
Have you had the block magnafluxed yet? IMO if the matching number block is structurally sound, I'd just totally reman THAT block to keep the matching numbers. Plus, the crate engines you've been showing have some disturbing anomolies..
if this was my rebuild, I'd spend the extra for FORGED crank and rods. Powder cast rods and a cast crank IMO are just asking for a premature teardown or worse.I'm still in the deciding stage. I'll probably go with the original engine. It ran ok , but the oil pressure was low and it smoked a bit. A standard rebuild is all it needs. I plan to up the horse power a bit. I'm not going through all this work and then put an anemic 170 HP engine back in.

w2amr
09-22-2009, 03:07 AM
Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............



Yep, lots of expense and work on the big block route.

But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.

The GM Performance lineup is confusing about what's a small block and what's a big block also? Looks like on some engines it would properly be called a half breed now?

The Chevy factory 402 was a good engine. Not a huge performer but a good torque producer. Should make a good street engine.
The 396/402 could make some decent HP with a little work. I put together a 325 horse 396 for my 55 Chevy drag car, way back when. Other than a Crane cam, aluminum intake, 780 Holly, and open hooker headers, the engine was stock. With a 4-88 gears and 4 speed Munci, the car ran constant 12:30s @ 112 MPH

w2amr
09-22-2009, 04:16 AM
Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............





But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.


Not confusing at all .The Big blocks and small blocks are totally different motors.
I imagine They are getting these big cubic inch numbers with stroker crankshafts.

kb2crk
09-22-2009, 06:26 AM
the 402 is a good engine considering it was called a 400 in the big cars and a 396 in the mid size like the chevelle. it was the smog motor version of the 396. easy to build up but still a big block. rebuild the original motor you will be better off.Never heard of a 400 big block. I think the 400 was a small block engine. the 402 block was nothing more than a 30 over 396.

i have worked on a couple 72 impala's and caprice's that had the 402 under the hood and 400 emblems on the fenders.
i also worked on a 72 monte carlo with the same set up. the owner of the monte carlo knew it was a 402 but the others did not have a clue. i have seen a lot more of the small block 400's over the years

W5GA
09-22-2009, 09:37 AM
the 402 is a good engine considering it was called a 400 in the big cars and a 396 in the mid size like the chevelle. it was the smog motor version of the 396. easy to build up but still a big block. rebuild the original motor you will be better off.Never heard of a 400 big block. I think the 400 was a small block engine. the 402 block was nothing more than a 30 over 396.

The 400 was indeed a small block, differing from previous small blocks by having siamesed bores on #3&5, and #4&6 cylinders. It was the only way they could get that bore diameter into it.


400
The only block of this family, 400 cu in (6.6 L) small-block, was introduced in 1970 and produced for 10 years. It was loosely based on the medium journal 350 and had a 4.125-inch (104.8 mm) bore and a 3.75-inch (95.3 mm) stroke. The 400 differed from other small blocks in that the cylinders were siamesed, used a 2.65” large journal, and often times had one more freeze plug on both the left and right sides of the block. Initial output was 265 hp (198 kW) and was only available equipped with a 2-barrel carburetor. In 1974 a 4-barrel version of the 400 was introduced, while the 2-barrel version stopped production in 1975. 1976 was the last year that the 400 was used in a Chevrolet Passenger car, available in both the A-Body and B-Body line. While popular with circle-track racers, the engine was prone to cooling troubles if cylinder heads without steam holes were used. They mostly put out 250 hp stock. Due to the way the block was designed, the 2 bolt main engines were stronger than the 4 bolt versions if properly prepped. The 509 2 bolt main block is the most desirable 400 block.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine

N4VGB
09-22-2009, 12:10 PM
Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............





But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.


Not confusing at all .The Big blocks and small blocks are totally different motors.
I imagine They are getting these big cubic inch numbers with stroker crankshafts.

Yeah, but when a guy says it's a 427 I automatically think it's a big block. That is no longer true, last 2 427s I've been shown by the owners were both small blocks. :shock:

I know the difference in what is normally called big & small block Chevy, but just the cubic inch numbers don't mean it's one or the other these days.

I presumed the 402 that you stated your buddy had was an overbored 400 small block? The 400 small block is a sturdier platform for a performance engine than most give it credit for being. Remember the cooling problem and make sure any heads bolted on that block have the "steam holes" or it will overheat. The stock cast nodular iron crank is tougher than most think also, I wouldn't use it to build a screamer but it's good for a robust street engine.

w2amr
09-22-2009, 02:51 PM
Oh yeah.
But I really don't want to go the big block route. New exhaust system, front springs, radiator.............





But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.


Not confusing at all .The Big blocks and small blocks are totally different motors.
I imagine They are getting these big cubic inch numbers with stroker crankshafts.

Yeah, but when a guy says it's a 427 I automatically think it's a big block. That is no longer true, last 2 427s I've been shown by the owners were both small blocks. :shock:

I know the difference in what is normally called big & small block Chevy, but just the cubic inch numbers don't mean it's one or the other these days.

I presumed the 402 that you stated your buddy had was an overbored 400 small block?
No, it's big block. A 396 bored 30 over=402. 10-4?

N4VGB
09-22-2009, 07:35 PM
No it's big block. A 396 bored 30 over=402. 10-4?



I think I'd pass on that one. :yes:

kb2crk
09-22-2009, 08:10 PM
But then these days it's confusing what's a big block and what's a small block in Chevy engines!? Man are they ever stretching the cube limits with the after market parts today.


Not confusing at all .The Big blocks and small blocks are totally different motors.
I imagine They are getting these big cubic inch numbers with stroker crankshafts.

Yeah, but when a guy says it's a 427 I automatically think it's a big block. That is no longer true, last 2 427s I've been shown by the owners were both small blocks. :shock:

I know the difference in what is normally called big & small block Chevy, but just the cubic inch numbers don't mean it's one or the other these days.

I presumed the 402 that you stated your buddy had was an overbored 400 small block?
No, it's big block. A 396 bored 30 over=402. 10-4?

you forgot to say good buddy.... :rofl:

w2amr
09-24-2009, 01:13 PM
Woooo Hooooo! :dance:
The Firewall, Frame, Cowl, and front end pieces are finished. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3951292670_ca76c81c2d_o.jpg

kc4umo
09-24-2009, 02:09 PM
Going to be a sweet ride.
Looking good :yes:

WV6Z
09-24-2009, 02:17 PM
Good to see you are still amongst the body count of the living Buddy!

w2amr
09-24-2009, 02:18 PM
Going to be a sweet ride.
Looking good :yes:........ miles to go before I sleep. :lol:

w2amr
09-24-2009, 02:18 PM
Good to see you are still amongst the body count of the living Buddy!Still sucking in air Tom. :lol:

kc4umo
09-24-2009, 03:12 PM
Hey Tom.
Good to see ya.

kc4umo
09-24-2009, 03:16 PM
Going to be a sweet ride.
Looking good :yes:........ miles to go before I sleep. :lol:

I understand that.
Been working on my pile of scrap for a long time also.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9302 (http://forums.hamisland.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9302)

w2amr
09-24-2009, 03:46 PM
Going to be a sweet ride.
Looking good :yes:........ miles to go before I sleep. :lol:

I understand that.
Been working on my pile of scrap for a long time also.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9302 (http://forums.hamisland.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9302)I posted this a while back, you should get a kick out of it. It's a 48 Vespa with a big block Chevy that some guys up in North Jersey built. It's actually driven on the street.
http://media5.dropshots.com/photos/88780/20081212/030926.jpg
http://media5.dropshots.com/photos/88780/20081212/030929.jpg
http://media3.dropshots.com/photos/88780/20081212/030930.jpg

W2NAP
09-24-2009, 04:26 PM
well at least i dont have to post that dreaded

pics or it didnt happen :mrgreen:

w2amr
09-24-2009, 04:29 PM
well at least i dont have to post that dreaded

pics or it didnt happen :mrgreen:
Yeah, that thing has to be seen to be believed. :D

w2amr
09-30-2009, 02:46 AM
I'm going to drop off the upper and lower control arms, and steering knuckles at the machine shop today. I'll have everything sand blasted, and new bushings and ball joints pressed in. Then back home to prep and paint everything including the front springs. I ordered a new heater core yesterday. The heater box and outside cover are painted and ready to go. When I get the heater core , I can put the heater box back on the firewall. Things are moving along nicely. :agree:

KG4CGC
09-30-2009, 02:54 AM
Very cool. If you get done ahead of schedule and you get bored, what then?

w2amr
09-30-2009, 03:39 AM
Very cool. If you get done ahead of schedule and you get bored, what then?I have a looooooooong way to go my man.

KG4CGC
09-30-2009, 04:23 AM
That's what she said!

w2amr
10-02-2009, 04:23 PM
I got a call from the machine shop today. The lower ball joint are too small, and are loose in the holes. Rather than pay to have the new control arm bushings pressed out , and send everything back, I had them install new TRW ball joints. Perfect fit. I did send big Tony an E-mail telling them what I think of their BARGAN front end kit. :wall

w2amr
10-05-2009, 04:03 AM
Another good week. The cowl including new plastic grills , firewall, frame and radiator support are finished. The windshield wiper assembly , heater box with new heater core , and new power brake booster are back on the firewall. The front fender extensions that hold the lights are on, and the hood latch/center grill support, and grill are also back in place. I got the upper and lower control arms and steering knuckles back from the machine shop on Friday. Saturday I got two coats of metal prep on all of it, and they will be ready for paint on Wednesday. Once I get the front springs prepped and painted, the suspension will be ready to go back together. :agree:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2561/3983526156_09304828d3_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3983524482_141ecf8214_o.jpg

KG4CGC
10-05-2009, 11:41 AM
You know it's good that you're tearing everything down and taking care of business but, I think I see the cause of your woes.
There seems to be a blockage in your exhaust system. Did you notice that? Guess you could have saved yourself a lot of work if you had just taken those pipes off first.

Hey, you gotta live and learn, right?

kc4umo
10-05-2009, 11:47 AM
You know it's good that you're tearing everything down and taking care of business but, I think I see the cause of your woes.
There seems to be a blockage in your exhaust system. Did you notice that? Guess you could have saved yourself a lot of work if you had just taken those pipes off first.

Hey, you gotta live and learn, right?
:rofl:

w2amr
10-05-2009, 02:03 PM
You know it's good that you're tearing everything down and taking care of business but, I think I see the cause of your woes.
There seems to be a blockage in your exhaust system. Did you notice that? Guess you could have saved yourself a lot of work if you had just taken those pipes off first.

Hey, you gotta live and learn, right?Thanks for your input Chucky, Thought provoking as usual.

KG4CGC
10-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Ah but you are more than welcome! :rofl:

kf0rt
10-05-2009, 05:47 PM
Must say... I'm enjoying this ride, George (and that Kodak is serving you nicely -- great pics!).

It's always inspiring to watch someone who knows their craft. Keep 'em coming!

ad4mg
10-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Very nice, George! It's coming along real well.

I know you're putting a fresh coat of header paint on the headers, right? :D

KG4CGC
10-05-2009, 09:26 PM
You've been working on it real hard George. Can I offer you a libation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation)?

w2amr
10-06-2009, 03:10 AM
Very nice, George! It's coming along real well.

I know you're putting a fresh coat of header paint on the headers, right? :D
I have to decide what the headers are going to be bolted to first. :lol:

w2amr
10-06-2009, 03:12 AM
You've been working on it real hard George. Can I offer you a libation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation)?Not till it's finished Charles. :dance

w2amr
10-06-2009, 03:17 AM
Must say... I'm enjoying this ride, George (and that Kodak is serving you nicely -- great pics!).

It's always inspiring to watch someone who knows their craft. Keep 'em coming!Thanks Rob. I was thinking the other day, this isn't much different than the restoration on my dad's lawn mower, just on a bigger scale. With a lot more parts, and a lot more money needed. :lol:

KG4CGC
10-06-2009, 01:42 PM
You've been working on it real hard George. Can I offer you a libation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation)?Not till it's finished Charles. :dance
Wow. So, you're going to dry out till next Summer? Not even a nightcap toddy?

N2NH
10-06-2009, 03:33 PM
I've been watching your progress avidly George. It's a great thread and I've even managed to learn a few things along the way. Is that Coral Red or is it a color shift?

Car looks like it's over 1/2 way done.

w2amr
10-06-2009, 04:10 PM
You've been working on it real hard George. Can I offer you a libation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation)?Not till it's finished Charles. :dance
Wow. So, you're going to dry out till next Summer? Not even a nightcap toddy?I been dried out for a lot of winters and summers dude. :lol:

w2amr
10-06-2009, 04:14 PM
I've been watching your progress avidly George. It's a great thread and I've even managed to learn a few things along the way. Is that Coral Red or is it a color shift?

Car looks like it's over 1/2 way done.No, it called cranberry red John.
The condition of the exterior and interior of the car is so nice, I had to make the rest of it look the same. I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance

KG4CGC
10-06-2009, 05:00 PM
Giggity on the giddy up!

KG4CGC
10-06-2009, 05:01 PM
You've been working on it real hard George. Can I offer you a libation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation)?Not till it's finished Charles. :dance
Wow. So, you're going to dry out till next Summer? Not even a nightcap toddy?I been dried out for a lot of winters and summers dude. :lol:
Whoa! I bet you look like a prune!

ad4mg
10-06-2009, 06:01 PM
I'm enjoying a vintage box wine tonight, a White Zinfandel, Franzia ... 5 liters. It's a first for me, never drank wine out of a box before. :dance

KG4CGC
10-06-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm enjoying a vintage box wine tonight, a White Zinfandel, Franzia ... 5 liters. It's a first for me, never drank wine out of a box before. :dance
Great for camping!

kf0rt
10-06-2009, 06:25 PM
I'm enjoying a vintage box wine tonight, a White Zinfandel, Franzia ... 5 liters. It's a first for me, never drank wine out of a box before. :dance

Rum and Coke here; need to stop that. It's screwing up my conservative level productivity. :rofl:

W7XF
10-06-2009, 09:38 PM
I'm enjoying a vintage box wine tonight, a White Zinfandel, Franzia ... 5 liters. It's a first for me, never drank wine out of a box before. :dance

Might want to watch out for a hint of fibreboard or ink :rofl:

N4VGB
10-10-2009, 04:04 PM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol:

kf0rt
10-10-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol:


In a Chevelle?
I bet you wear white before Memorial Day. :slap:

N4VGB
10-10-2009, 04:25 PM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol:


In a Chevelle?
I bet you wear white before Memorial Day. :slap:

Bill Mitchell small block Chevy engines are perfect for any vintage Chevy!!! :dance

kf0rt
10-10-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol:


In a Chevelle?
I bet you wear white before Memorial Day. :slap:

Bill Mitchell small block Chevy engines are perfect for any vintage Chevy!!! :dance

Maybe, but you linked to a 427...

N4VGB
10-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Maybe, but you linked to a 427...



That 427 IS a small block. ;)

Cubic inches are no longer clear indicators of whether an engine is a small or big block.

kf0rt
10-10-2009, 05:37 PM
Maybe, but you linked to a 427...



That 427 IS a small block. ;)

Cubic inches are no longer clear indicators of whether an engine is a small or big block.


Well yeah... A Ford small block.

N4VGB
10-10-2009, 05:47 PM
Maybe, but you linked to a 427...



That 427 IS a small block. ;)

Cubic inches are no longer clear indicators of whether an engine is a small or big block.


Well yeah... A Ford small block.

Bill Mitchell does 427s in Ford and Chevy small blocks, that pic is just stock from their website.

"Special Clearance Sale" :lol:

N8YX
10-10-2009, 07:42 PM
A 427 in a Boss Hoss, Big Johnson or similar V8 bike would be a hoot.

One of my "associates" had a 'Hoss with a 502ci big block. Another had a 350ci ZZ4 which was bottle-fed to the tune of ~800 RWHP... :shock:

N4VGB
10-10-2009, 08:50 PM
A 427 in a Boss Hoss, Big Johnson or similar V8 bike would be a hoot.

One of my "associates" had a 'Hoss with a 502ci big block. Another had a 350ci ZZ4 which was bottle-fed to the tune of ~800 RWHP... :shock:

IF you're into making a lot of smoke out of rear tires, yeah. Otherwise those V8 motorcycles are just interesting conversation pieces.

kf0rt
10-10-2009, 10:20 PM
Maybe, but you linked to a 427...



That 427 IS a small block. ;)

Cubic inches are no longer clear indicators of whether an engine is a small or big block.


Well yeah... A Ford small block.

Bill Mitchell does 427s in Ford and Chevy small blocks, that pic is just stock from their website.

"Special Clearance Sale" :lol:

Yeah, sure.

Well, shit. I drive a Nissan with a CVT. Buddy of mine just sold a Hertz Mustang / Cobra thingy to a museum, though. I'll have to dig up the videos.

KG4CGC
10-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Yeah, sure.

Well, shit. I drive a Nissan with a CVT. Buddy of mine just sold a Hertz Mustang / Cobra thingy to a museum, though. I'll have to dig up the videos.
Really? Tell us more about the CVT. Please?

w2amr
10-11-2009, 06:47 AM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol: It might as well be a million five.

N4VGB
10-11-2009, 09:44 AM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol: It might as well be a million five.

I thought about buying one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtuo__BYHM

But then I factored in the cost of the divorce! :shock:

kf0rt
10-11-2009, 09:47 AM
Yeah, sure.

Well, shit. I drive a Nissan with a CVT. Buddy of mine just sold a Hertz Mustang / Cobra thingy to a museum, though. I'll have to dig up the videos.
Really? Tell us more about the CVT. Please?

The CVT's pretty cool - takes a little getting used to, though. Thing ought to have a second "tach" that shows gear ratio. If you floor it, the engine goes to max torque and sits there, while the acceleration is handled in the transmission. Very smooth because there's no gear shifting. No 1-2-3 on the shifter either, but it does have a fake manual mode that locks the transmission in one of 6 different places.

Downside is that the tranny uses a special fluid that costs about $20 a quart and changing it out takes 6 quarts.

The thing I like even more about that car ('07 Altima) is the iKey. Pushbutton start, keyless doors. As long as you have the little RF key in your pocket, it'll start and you can lock/unlock the doors without fumbling around for a key. Smart? My wife tried to lock her purse in the trunk once and it wouldn't let her because she had the other key in it.

KG4CGC
10-11-2009, 09:48 AM
All coolness :)






Yeah, sure.

Well, shit. I drive a Nissan with a CVT. Buddy of mine just sold a Hertz Mustang / Cobra thingy to a museum, though. I'll have to dig up the videos.
Really? Tell us more about the CVT. Please?

The CVT's pretty cool - takes a little getting used to, though. Thing ought to have a second "tach" that shows gear ratio. If you floor it, the engine goes to max torque and sits there, while the acceleration is handled in the transmission. Very smooth because there's no gear shifting. No 1-2-3 on the shifter either, but it does have a fake manual mode that locks the transmission in one of 6 different places.

Downside is that the tranny uses a special fluid that costs about $20 a quart and changing it out takes 6 quarts.

The thing I like even more about that car ('07 Altima) is the iKey. Pushbutton start, keyless doors. As long as you have the little RF key in your pocket, it'll start and you can lock/unlock the doors without fumbling around for a key. Smart? My wife tried to lock her purse in the trunk once and it wouldn't let her because she had the other key in it.

w2amr
10-12-2009, 02:55 AM
I'm also going to add some giddy up . :dance



Oh good grief, would you stop farting around and just call Bill Mitchell and tell him to send you one of these: http://www.theengineshop.com/products/e ... ngine.html (http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engines/small-block-ford-engines/small-block-ford-427-525hp-street-engine.html)

Hurry! It's on sale at only $10.5K now! :lol: It might as well be a million five.

I thought about buying one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtuo__BYHM

But then I factored in the cost of the divorce! :shock:Geez Louise, what a beast.
At this point, I would be happy with the big block in your Camero.

w2amr
10-15-2009, 02:44 AM
I talked to the engine guy yesterday. He said he could do a total rebuild on the 350 and get it near 300 HP for $2000 to $2500. I told him he had a deal.

N4VGB
10-15-2009, 07:51 AM
I talked to the engine guy yesterday. He said he could do a total rebuild on the 350 and get it near 300 HP for $2000 to $2500. I told him he had a deal.

That ain't bad for a quality rebuild these days. :yes:

Damn the good parts are high!!! :shock:

w2amr
10-15-2009, 02:41 PM
I talked to the engine guy yesterday. He said he could do a total rebuild on the 350 and get it near 300 HP for $2000 to $2500. I told him he had a deal.

That ain't bad for a quality rebuild these days. :yes:

Damn the good parts are high!!! :shock:The best part is the guy has a rep for quality work and he is honest. Not too long ago , He built a 383 small block stroker for a buddy of mine who put it in his 39 Ford street rod. He is an old drag racer too. He ran a 9 second Camaro back in the 70's, that had an engine he built himself.

N4VGB
10-15-2009, 03:33 PM
I talked to the engine guy yesterday. He said he could do a total rebuild on the 350 and get it near 300 HP for $2000 to $2500. I told him he had a deal.

That ain't bad for a quality rebuild these days. :yes:

Damn the good parts are high!!! :shock:The best part is the guy has a rep for quality work and he is honest. Not too long ago , He built a 383 small block stroker for a buddy of mine who put it in his 39 Ford street rod. He is an old drag racer too. He ran a 9 second Camaro back in the 70's, that had an engine he built himself.

Sounds like a winner! :dance: Some of these so-called "engine builders" these days are hacks! I wouldn't let 'em rebuild a lawn mower engine! :twisted:

Around here most of the really good engine builders went out of business because of the price they needed to charge for a good build. That seems to have left nothing but the hacks still in business. There's still one good builder left in my corner of TN and there's still one down in N GA, both are very expensive but turn out high quality work.

The economy has F'ed up the hot rod/racing engine business around here royally!

w2amr
10-17-2009, 06:36 AM
I put the new grills and weatherstrip on the cowl so that's done.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/4018432917_68b75711cf_o.jpg

All the wiring is back on the firewall. I covered the harness with corrugated plastic tubing that I got from the hardware store. which gives it a real clean look.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4018434113_9853893bb6_o.jpg

I put the control arms, springs, and steering knuckles/ spindles back in last week. Other than the sway bar and shocks, the front suspension is finished.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4018435523_0d4a1b7d16_o.jpg

N8YX
10-17-2009, 06:38 AM
Looks nice! :agree:

w2amr
10-17-2009, 06:40 AM
Looks nice! :agree:Thanks. I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.

KG4CGC
10-17-2009, 07:35 AM
:clap: :agree:

w2amr
10-17-2009, 10:34 AM
I take a polite bow.
http://www.curiouscharacters.com/accolades/bow2.jpg

N4VGB
10-22-2009, 09:52 PM
Looks nice! :agree:Thanks. I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.

Looks GREAT! If you drive it, it'll get dirty. :snicker:

N4VGB
10-22-2009, 09:54 PM
I take a polite bow.



Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty

WØTKX
10-22-2009, 09:56 PM
Wow. Love is in the air. :whistle

w2amr
10-23-2009, 02:49 AM
Looks nice! :agree:Thanks. I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.

Looks GREAT! If you drive it, it'll get dirty. :snicker:The engine builder needs work. I talked to him yesterday, he said he will rebuild the engine and put a stroker kit in it making it a 383 for about $2300. That includes a balance job on the moving inners. He also wants to use 10.5 -1 slugs, No more running on regular gas. :lol:

N4VGB
10-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Looks nice! :agree:Thanks. I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.

Looks GREAT! If you drive it, it'll get dirty. :snicker:The engine builder needs work. I talked to him yesterday, he said he will rebuild the engine and put a stroker kit in it making it a 383 for about $2300. That includes a balance job on the moving inners. He also wants to use 10.5 -1 slugs, No more running on regular gas. :lol:

Sounds good George. Keep the timing dialed back and you MIGHT be able to run the 91 octane stuff, not really sure? If you're like me, keeping that ignition advance dialed back ain't in the cards! :lol:

I've sold both my abandoned cars now, '63 Ford Galaxie and unknown year International Scout with no engine but otherwise complete. I probably sold them way too cheap, BUT I also would have probably never gotten around to doing anything with either of them. It's better that both are going to be put to use now. Both buyers were willing to take a bill of sale only, since I didn't have title to either. Sooooo, I got some play money for the Chattanooga Swapfest tomorrow, not much of an affair but maybe some good parts will show up. :dance

W5GA
10-23-2009, 03:10 PM
Sounds good George. Keep the timing dialed back and you MIGHT be able to run the 91 octane stuff, not really sure? If you're like me, keeping that ignition advance dialed back ain't in the cards! :lol:
Gee, if you inject it using something like http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products/details/xfi/benefits.asp, the timing will take care of itself, and you can run whatever fuel you like.

KG4CGC
10-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Wow. Love is in the air. :whistle
Yeah uh, I'm "air" isn't what he was after. :shock:

w2amr
10-23-2009, 03:58 PM
I've sold both my abandoned cars now, '63 Ford Galaxie and unknown year International Scout with no engine but otherwise complete. I probably sold them way too cheap, BUT I also would have probably never gotten around to doing anything with either of them. It's better that both are going to be put to use now. Both buyers were willing to take a bill of sale only, since I didn't have title to either. Sooooo, I got some play money for the Chattanooga Swapfest tomorrow, not much of an affair but maybe some good parts will show up. :dance


Did you ever get the clutch problem in the Camaro straigntened out ?

w2amr
10-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Sounds good George. Keep the timing dialed back and you MIGHT be able to run the 91 octane stuff, not really sure? If you're like me, keeping that ignition advance dialed back ain't in the cards! :lol:
Gee, if you inject it using something like http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products/details/xfi/benefits.asp, the timing will take care of itself, and you can run whatever fuel you like.
Think I'll stick with a 750 Holly.I want to keep this thing as clean looking as possible. I don't need extra wiring , computers, and O2 sensors.

N4VGB
10-23-2009, 05:05 PM
I've sold both my abandoned cars now, '63 Ford Galaxie and unknown year International Scout with no engine but otherwise complete. I probably sold them way too cheap, BUT I also would have probably never gotten around to doing anything with either of them. It's better that both are going to be put to use now. Both buyers were willing to take a bill of sale only, since I didn't have title to either. Sooooo, I got some play money for the Chattanooga Swapfest tomorrow, not much of an affair but maybe some good parts will show up. :dance


Did you ever get the clutch problem in the Camaro straigntened out ?

Nope, haven't even touched it. Still debating whether to rebuild it with a new small block engine or just sell it and buy an already built oldie. Ever since my former neighbor built his '32 Ford rod, I've kinda had the bug for something similar.

KG4CGC
10-23-2009, 08:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syWJbD1rf0Y&feature=player_embedded
What was that noise? Did the guy mess up his shorts?

W7XF
10-24-2009, 12:08 AM
Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty
Jethro,
The above is a completely inappropriate comment. A retraction of that statement is expected. Thank you.

w2amr
10-24-2009, 02:39 AM
I've sold both my abandoned cars now, '63 Ford Galaxie and unknown year International Scout with no engine but otherwise complete. I probably sold them way too cheap, BUT I also would have probably never gotten around to doing anything with either of them. It's better that both are going to be put to use now. Both buyers were willing to take a bill of sale only, since I didn't have title to either. Sooooo, I got some play money for the Chattanooga Swapfest tomorrow, not much of an affair but maybe some good parts will show up. :dance


Did you ever get the clutch problem in the Camaro straigntened out ?

Nope, haven't even touched it. Still debating whether to rebuild it with a new small block engine or just sell it and buy an already built oldie. Ever since my former neighbor built his '32 Ford rod, I've kinda had the bug for something similar.There's plenty of street rods out there to be had, but very pricey. The good news is , you should get quite a bit of money for the Camaro if it's good shape. Do you have any pictures of it?

N4VGB
10-24-2009, 02:49 PM
Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty
Jethro,
The above is a completely inappropriate comment. A retraction of that statement is expected. Thank you.

GO FISH! :rofl:

N4VGB
10-24-2009, 02:56 PM
There's plenty of street rods out there to be had, but very pricey. The good news is , you should get quite a bit of money for the Camaro if it's good shape. Do you have any pictures of it?



I had some on another PC that died, it won't power up now, I'm fairly sure the hard drive is OK and the pics are still there, seems to be a problem on the motherboard.

I didn't waste any of my money from the sale of the 2 abandoned cars at the swapfest today, nothing there worth buying. So I may stash that cash for a future street rod. The prices on street rods done with fiberglass reproduction bodies is way down around here, you can snag some real bargains compared to even last year. Real deal all steel rods are still high and will never go down, just way too few of them left now.

I'm no purist, fiberglass is OK with me.

w2amr
10-25-2009, 02:36 AM
There's plenty of street rods out there to be had, but very pricey. The good news is , you should get quite a bit of money for the Camaro if it's good shape. Do you have any pictures of it?



I had some on another PC that died, it won't power up now, I'm fairly sure the hard drive is OK and the pics are still there, seems to be a problem on the motherboard.

I didn't waste any of my money from the sale of the 2 abandoned cars at the swapfest today, nothing there worth buying. So I may stash that cash for a future street rod. The prices on street rods done with fiberglass reproduction bodies is way down around here, you can snag some real bargains compared to even last year. Real deal all steel rods are still high and will never go down, just way too few of them left now.

I'm no purist, fiberglass is OK with me.Just keep magnets away from it and nobody will be the wiser.

w2amr
10-25-2009, 07:00 AM
I take a polite bow.



Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty
Would you pick up my soap please. :shifty

N4VGB
10-25-2009, 02:09 PM
I take a polite bow.



Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty
Would you pick up my soap please. :shifty

No way! :lol:

N4VGB
10-25-2009, 02:11 PM
There's plenty of street rods out there to be had, but very pricey. The good news is , you should get quite a bit of money for the Camaro if it's good shape. Do you have any pictures of it?



I had some on another PC that died, it won't power up now, I'm fairly sure the hard drive is OK and the pics are still there, seems to be a problem on the motherboard.

I didn't waste any of my money from the sale of the 2 abandoned cars at the swapfest today, nothing there worth buying. So I may stash that cash for a future street rod. The prices on street rods done with fiberglass reproduction bodies is way down around here, you can snag some real bargains compared to even last year. Real deal all steel rods are still high and will never go down, just way too few of them left now.

I'm no purist, fiberglass is OK with me.Just keep magnets away from it and nobody will be the wiser.

Don't get me wrong now George, the real deal all steel rods are sweet indeed. I'm just not willing to spend the mucho extra bucks needed for one. Yes, I'm CHEAP. :oops:

w2amr
10-25-2009, 02:27 PM
There's plenty of street rods out there to be had, but very pricey. The good news is , you should get quite a bit of money for the Camaro if it's good shape. Do you have any pictures of it?



I had some on another PC that died, it won't power up now, I'm fairly sure the hard drive is OK and the pics are still there, seems to be a problem on the motherboard.

I didn't waste any of my money from the sale of the 2 abandoned cars at the swapfest today, nothing there worth buying. So I may stash that cash for a future street rod. The prices on street rods done with fiberglass reproduction bodies is way down around here, you can snag some real bargains compared to even last year. Real deal all steel rods are still high and will never go down, just way too few of them left now.

I'm no purist, fiberglass is OK with me.Just keep magnets away from it and nobody will be the wiser.

Don't get me wrong now George, the real deal all steel rods are sweet indeed. I'm just not willing to spend the mucho extra bucks needed for one. Yes, I'm CHEAP. :oops:
Most people don't even know the difference.
Check this out Mack. Now you can get an all fiberglass 55 Chevy 2 door sedan for $14.900 http://www.fastglass55.com/
http://www.fastglass55.com/bodydetail.html

N4VGB
10-26-2009, 08:00 PM
Most people don't even know the difference.
Check this out Mack. Now you can get an all fiberglass 55 Chevy 2 door sedan for $14.900 http://www.fastglass55.com/
http://www.fastglass55.com/bodydetail.html



Oh my, that is sweet. Very interesting and tempting. BUT, I've decided I'm too old and broken down for any more big projects in my life. Think I'll sell the Camaro and try to score something milder and cheaper to drive. I still want something with a little rumpity rump but will also run on pump gas. The car shows always yield many sweet street rides for sale, we'll see if anything shows up at Emerald Coast Cruizin this year.

w2amr
10-27-2009, 02:54 AM
Probably the biggest car show on the east coast is in Carlisle PA.
http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ce/index.asp
Bring a trailer with you because you will probably find what you are looking for. The thing is friggin huge.

N4VGB
10-27-2009, 02:38 PM
Probably the biggest car show on the east coast is in Carlisle PA.
http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ce/index.asp
Bring a trailer with you because you will probably find what you are looking for. The thing is friggin huge.

No thanks, the big shows exhaust me. The Turkey Run at Daytona covers the whole of the infield at the Daytona International Speedway and is all over the area in shopping mall lots and large hotel/motel lots also, you walk yourself to death at that thing. My feet and ankles swelled up big time during our last visit there in 2007, the wife and I agreed it was our last trip to that one. The Turkey Run claims to be the largest car show/swapmeet in America and I believe them, it's toooooo big. :lol:

w2amr
10-29-2009, 02:47 PM
I dropped the engine off at the rebuilder's today, He said he will have it done in a couple of weeks.

N4VGB
10-29-2009, 03:36 PM
I dropped the engine off at the rebuilder's today, He said he will have it done in a couple of weeks.

FB OM, the wait begins. :popcorn:

So did you ever decide on the dress up kit? I like the "industrial" look, chrome and bright aluminum have been around forever and are starting to be :sick: for me.

w2amr
10-29-2009, 04:06 PM
I dropped the engine off at the rebuilder's today, He said he will have it done in a couple of weeks.

FB OM, the wait begins. :popcorn:

So did you ever decide on the dress up kit? I like the "industrial" look, chrome and bright aluminum have been around forever and are starting to be :sick: for me.
I'm not sure yet. I haven't even decided what Intake/Carb I'm going to use . An aluminum intake and a 650 Holly, or the stock manifold with a 600 QJ. :chin: A tri power set up would be something different, but they want an arm and a leg for new stuff.

W5GA
10-30-2009, 08:51 AM
I'm not sure yet. I haven't even decided what Intake/Carb I'm going to use . An aluminum intake and a 650 Holly, or the stock manifold with a 600 QJ. :chin: A tri power set up would be something different, but they want an arm and a leg for new stuff.
How about an Enderle setup?

w2amr
10-30-2009, 01:58 PM
I'm not sure yet. I haven't even decided what Intake/Carb I'm going to use . An aluminum intake and a 650 Holly, or the stock manifold with a 600 QJ. :chin: A tri power set up would be something different, but they want an arm and a leg for new stuff.
How about an Enderle setup?That be a budget buster. :disagree:

N8YX
10-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Probably the biggest car show on the east coast is in Carlisle PA.
http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ce/index.asp
Bring a trailer with you because you will probably find what you are looking for. The thing is friggin huge.
Carlisle is relatively close to me. A number of my ham and car cronies routinely go there.

W5GA
10-30-2009, 02:17 PM
That be a budget buster. :disagree:
Ah....is this gonna be a 383? If so, you might be better served with the 750 QJ rather than the small one.

w2amr
10-30-2009, 02:44 PM
That be a budget buster. :disagree:
Ah....is this gonna be a 383? If so, you might be better served with the 750 QJ rather than the small one.Yes, a 383 stroker with 30 over 10.5 to 1 slugs.

w2amr
10-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Probably the biggest car show on the east coast is in Carlisle PA.
http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ce/index.asp
Bring a trailer with you because you will probably find what you are looking for. The thing is friggin huge.
Carlisle is relatively close to me. A number of my ham and car cronies routinely go there. I heard it's freakin uge.

N4VGB
10-30-2009, 07:09 PM
I dropped the engine off at the rebuilder's today, He said he will have it done in a couple of weeks.

FB OM, the wait begins. :popcorn:

So did you ever decide on the dress up kit? I like the "industrial" look, chrome and bright aluminum have been around forever and are starting to be :sick: for me.
I'm not sure yet. I haven't even decided what Intake/Carb I'm going to use . An aluminum intake and a 650 Holly, or the stock manifold with a 600 QJ. :chin: A tri power set up would be something different, but they want an arm and a leg for new stuff.

I never was a big QJ fan. It's really just the looks of the QJ that don't appeal to me, I've known lots of guys who knew how to properly tune the QJ and made them work great on street rods. I like the looks of the Holley and it's the only one that I know how to tweak well. Getting the correct cams on the accelerator pumps was the only thing that ever gave me any problem on a Holley, it can be a little tricky at times with certain combos.

On a strictly street rod, I like to get that instant throttle response. :dance:

Still eating the popcorn, waiting for those new pics with the engine installed! :popcorn:

W5GA
10-31-2009, 08:35 PM
I never was a big QJ fan. It's really just the looks of the QJ that don't appeal to me, I've known lots of guys who knew how to properly tune the QJ and made them work great on street rods. I like the looks of the Holley and it's the only one that I know how to tweak well. Getting the correct cams on the accelerator pumps was the only thing that ever gave me any problem on a Holley, it can be a little tricky at times with certain combos.

On a strictly street rod, I like to get that instant throttle response. :dance:

Still eating the popcorn, waiting for those new pics with the engine installed! :popcorn:
They can seem mysterious if you aren't really familiar with them, but they out-mileage the Holley a bunch.

WØTKX
10-31-2009, 08:45 PM
I'm a Weber Guy... but I prefer injection...

X-Rated
10-31-2009, 11:51 PM
Be careful, this place is like prison, dangerous to bend over for very long. :shifty
Jethro,
The above is a completely inappropriate comment. A retraction of that statement is expected. Thank you.
Good luck, Kevin. Sensitivity is not the mod's forte here. However you may recommend that someone of opposing views apologize as well for the balance to be seen.

Dilmus won't retract and no one cares because issues on teh Zed can be worse than here. We are friends here and it is better to be bashed by friends than being bashed by others on other forums.

The fact that you have promoted friendship and goodwill really means nothing and many here would advise you to not let the door hit you on the way out.

Have a nice day, Kevin.

W7XF
11-01-2009, 03:03 AM
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT???

w2amr
11-01-2009, 03:48 AM
I'm a Weber Guy...
Maybe if the Chevelle had a flathead.........