Latest project

[w2amr]

Think it'll be done by October George?
I'd love to have that as my first car :yes::rock: Stay within your budget, I'll sell you the pile of old parts I took off. :-P

[w2amr]

George, did you use to work for GM?
No. Why do you ask Sir Charles?

[KU0DM]

Stay within your budget, I'll sell you the pile of old parts I took off. :-P

:lol::lol:

[w2amr]

:lol::lol:
Here ya go Dunc. Your very own 72 Chevelle starter kit. Where do you want it shipped?:dance:
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[W5GA]

Hey Dunc, if you buy that stuff you'll be .0000000000001% of the way to having your own wrecking yard. Those things are freakin' GOLD MINES!

That radiator looks a little ruff, though.

[w2amr]

Hey Dunc, if you buy that stuff you'll be .0000000000001% of the way to having your own wrecking yard. Those things are freakin' GOLD MINES!

That radiator looks a little ruff, though.Ok Ok, Just to sweeten the deal.In addition to the parts shown, I'll throw in the old inner front fenders, Holly carb, emissions hoses and charcoal canister, battery tray, front brake rotors, and a rusty set of headers.Go find a deal like that on E-pay. Then you will be .0000000000002% closer to your very own classic CHEVELLE. Hurry up before I change my mind. :hyper:

[N4VGB]

Ok Ok, Just to sweeten the deal.In addition to the parts shown, I'll throw in the old inner front fenders, Holly carb, emissions hoses and charcoal canister, battery tray, front brake rotors, and a rusty set of headers.Go find a deal like that on E-pay. Then you will be .0000000000002% closer to your very own classic CHEVELLE. Hurry up before I change my mind. :hyper:

Without those parts that "numbers matching" Chevelle just lost a lot of value!:lol:

[KU0DM]

Ok Ok, Just to sweeten the deal.In addition to the parts shown, I'll throw in the old inner front fenders, Holly carb, emissions hoses and charcoal canister, battery tray, front brake rotors, and a rusty set of headers.Go find a deal like that on E-pay. Then you will be .0000000000002% closer to your very own classic CHEVELLE. Hurry up before I change my mind. :hyper:

Throw in a Johnson Matchbox and it's a deal.

[w2amr]

Throw in a Johnson Matchbox and it's a deal.I'll throw in a picture of a Johnson Matchbox. :mrgreen:

[WØTKX]

So where's the picture with the headers installed?

[N9FE]

So where's the picture with the headers installed?
Yeah Yeah.. And we want to hear that sucka snort too !!

[w2amr]

I'm working on it boys.

[w2amr]

I'm working on it boys.It pays to price shop. I found this Mallory HEI plug and play dist at Performance Parts for $156. I have seen it priced as high as $220 for the same unit at other parts outlets. I ordered one yesterday.
http://performanceparts.com/part.php?partID=74423

[w2amr]

What a horrible frigging job. 2 1/2 hours to install two headers. The right side went in from the top, the left from the bottom. The heads of 3 bolts on the right side hit the bend in the pipe and had to be PERSUADED to go in. At least 4 spark plugs will have to be tightened with an open end wrench, just like the GD header bolts. I need a cigarette.
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[WØTKX]

Shiny. Tubular. Nice. :bowdown:

But, no cigarette.:naughty:

Go play with a bee nest, or something.

:stickpoke:

[N9FE]

Jacking up the motor would'nt have helped ?. The frickin starter is in the way allways too. 10 pounds of shiet in a 5 pound bag

[w2amr]

Jacking up the motor would'nt have helped ?. The frickin starter is in the way allways too. 10 pounds of shiet in a 5 pound bag The starter was the first thing I took off. Then the steering shaft, brake lines , master cylinder, P/S pump bracket. I now remember how much I hated these GD things on a street car. :irked:

[N9FE]

There was a corvette in the early 70's . You had to cut a 13/16s box in half to get the one spark plug out. Pain in da azz

[N9FE]

It's 33 degrees and snowin like a basterd. I'm makin shrimp stir fry.. And sayin screw it !!

[w2amr]

Shiny. Tubular. Nice. :bowdown:

But, no cigarette.:naughty:

Go play with a bee nest, or something.

:stickpoke:
I'm good now. That's one PITA job I'm happy to have behind me. :rock:Time for a piece of nicorette. Onward and upward.

[w2amr]

Snow? Damn Mark, don't you guys have spring out there?

[N9FE]

It can snow or get cold anytime till after memorial day. It was warm. But we allways PAY for warm weather.

[W7XF]

Not me, Ron Paul is King there.:lol:

He scares me!:scared:

Does that make you Queen, Jethro?? :neener:

[KU0DM]

Does that make you Queen, Jethro?? :neener:

Poor Ron. :lol::lol:

[w2amr]

I ordered the new plastic inner fenders and a battery tray from year one. The order was around $230, the shipping was $80. :wall:
What can brown do for you? Empty yer fluckin pockets thats what. bastages:rant:

[w2amr]

2759Mallory HEI dist, 8MM plug wires, Moroso wire looms.2760
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[W5GA]

That's looking mighty fine! Have you fired it yet?

[N9FE]

Shure do got a purdy lookin master cylinder there george.. As the song deliverance plays in the background.

[w2amr]

That's looking mighty fine! Have you fired it yet?

Nope, but I'm getting close.

[N4VGB]

I ordered the new plastic inner fenders and a battery tray from year one. The order was around $230, the shipping was $80. :wall:
What can brown do for you? Empty yer fluckin pockets thats what. bastages:rant:

They're not allowed to dip all that taxpayer money, like the post office.

[KG4CGC]

Hey George, be sure to take out those wads of paper that were clogging up your exhaust the last time.

[w2amr]

I don't know how I would ever get along without you guys.:lol:

[N4VGB]

I don't know how I would ever get along without you guys.:lol:

Probably very well???:lol:

[KG4CGC]

I don't know how I would ever get along without you guys.:lol:
Not a problem OM.

[WØTKX]

You'd be restoring a Toyota Celica RWD? :mrgreen:

[KG4CGC]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/D000053.jpg

[N4VGB]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/D000053.jpg


Pimp that ride.:yuck::vomit:

[KG4CGC]

$500 a month to drive that thing around. Nice little bit of added income.

[N4VGB]

I wouldn't be seen in that POS for $5K a month.:lol:

[KG4CGC]

The gentleman driving it hasn't gotten his yet but he's working on it. Why disparage him?

[w2amr]

. Why disparage him?The people he passes on the street probably have that covered.

[w2amr]

Using an old distributor with the gear removed and a 1/2" drill motor, I got the oil pressure up in the engine. 75 lbs according to the gauge :dance:
This weekend I bolted up the exhaust pipes to the new headers. Yes Charles, I remove the sox stuffed in the pipes first. Got the parking brake cables hooked up, installed the new radiator support bushing kit. Prepped , painted, & installed the driveshaft. Year one says my new inner fenders are on back order. Dirty Corksuckers. :irked:

[W5GA]

Year one says my new inner fenders are on back order. Dirty Corksuckers. :irked:
The factory got shut down for lead based paint.

[w2amr]

The factory got shut down for lead based paint.In plastic? Wait a sec, yer funnin me ain't ya?:shifty:

[WØTKX]

OSHA violations?

[N4VGB]

Year one says my new inner fenders are on back order. Dirty Corksuckers. :irked:

I called a friend at Year One and showed him your post, take a seat at the end of the back order line OM.:whistle:

[w2amr]

I called a friend at Year One and showed him your post, take a seat at the end of the back order line OM.:whistle:Oh fluck. Did he say how long?
Never mind, I called today. 2 or 3 weeks. No problem, it isn't like I don't have anything else to work on. I guess I'll start on the front brakes now.

[N4VGB]

Oh fluck. Did he say how long?
Never mind, I called today. 2 or 3 weeks. No problem, it isn't like I don't have anything else to work on. I guess I'll start on the front brakes now.

Gotcha.:lol:

Scared a freakin' year off your life with that one!:lol:

[NA4BH]

Gotcha.:lol:

Scared a freakin' year off your life with that one!:lol:

Did you tell him what the guy said about the brakes? :shock:

[N4VGB]

Did you tell him what the guy said about the brakes? :shock:

:shhh:

[KG4CGC]

Did you tell him what the guy said about the brakes? :shock:
Interesting tidbit, during part of 2004, I ran a slitting machine that used a magnetic brake system. Much smoother operation than a friction type which is what nearly everything else used. Had to keep an eye on it and adjust manually by watching the amp draw.
Well, that all I wanted to say about that.

[w2amr]

Gotcha.:lol:

Scared a freakin' year off your life with that one!:lol: It's not like I have any to spare at this point.

[w2amr]

Did you tell him what the guy said about the brakes? :shock:The brake parts will be coming from NAPA.:neener:

[w2amr]

Interesting tidbit, during part of 2004, I ran a slitting machine that used a magnetic brake system. Much smoother operation than a friction type which is what nearly everything else used. Had to keep an eye on it and adjust manually by watching the amp draw.
Well, that all I wanted to say about that.Comment noted.

[w2amr]

New brake rotor/hubs, wheel bearings, calipers, pads, hoses. I got stoppers.
:agree:
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[N9FE]

Yep some fancy stop now's . Sometimes you wonder how we survived the old drum brakes. And the cable brakes. Glad them days are gone.

[KG4CGC]

Yep some fancy stop now's . Sometimes you wonder how we survived the old drum brakes. And the cable brakes. Glad them days are gone.
You had to plan ahead of time.

[w2amr]

Yep some fancy stop now's . Sometimes you wonder how we survived the old drum brakes. And the cable brakes. Glad them days are gone. Actually this thing has drums on the back.

[w2amr]

I ordered these yesterday.
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52132/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Flex-a-lite/400/31147/10002/-1

[N4VGB]

I ordered these yesterday.
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52132/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Flex-a-lite/400/31147/10002/-1

Jegs appreciates you financing their racing ventures.

[w2amr]

Jegs appreciates you financing their racing ventures.I figure Summit had enough of my money.

[N4VGB]

I figure Summit had enough of my money.

Now I see, you want the Summit and Jeg's sponsored pro stock cars to stay fairly equal.

[w2amr]

Now I see, you want the Summit and Jeg's sponsored pro stock cars to stay fairly equal.Well yeah, the fans like to see close racing.

[N4VGB]

Well yeah, the fans like to see close racing.

Then you're doing a good job. Favorites to see in every pro stock final round is Jeg's vs Summit. It's becoming a bit boring.

[KG4CGC]

This thread is lacking pictures.































http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/showpic1.jpg

[N4VGB]

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[w2amr]

No more junque to put in the pile, I must be getting close.
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[WØTKX]

http://image.rodandcustommagazine.com/f/9776543+w750+st0/0512rc_01_z+1941_buick_special_44s_six_passenger_s port_coupe+1939+front.jpg

[w2amr]

http://image.rodandcustommagazine.com/f/9776543+w750+st0/0512rc_01_z+1941_buick_special_44s_six_passenger_s port_coupe+1939+front.jpgAnd what it the point to this?

[NA4BH]

This thread is lacking pictures.































http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/showpic1.jpg

Substitute dark green with a white top and you have my first car. Damn I miss it. 396/375hp Zero to gone in the blink of an eye.

[w2amr]

I get that a lot when I have the Chevelle out. Somebody will come up and say, I had a Chevelle/Nova/Corvette/GTO/442/whatever. Sure wish I had that car back.

[kf0rt]

This thread is lacking pictures.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/showpic1.jpg

Saw a Malibu in the parking lot at work today that looked a lot like that. Think I know who owns it. If it shows up again tomorrow, I'll try to get pictures.

[WØTKX]

And what it the point to this?

Annoyingly Lilac Buick.

[N4VGB]

Now gone but never to be forgotten. 1967 Camaro in Hugger Orange with 468 BB Chevy engine. Snagged this pic of it's twin off the net.




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This little Ford was built by a friend and former neighbor.

[w2amr]

Annoyingly Lilac Buick.You see that sometimes. Nice looking rod that looks like it was painted with sherwin williams house paint.

[N9FE]

The old brush and roller job hey george. How about Earl scheib .. I'll paint any car for $29.95. Funny

[W5GA]

The old brush and roller job hey george. How about Earl scheib .. I'll paint any car for $29.95. Funny
Yup, and they include painting all the exposed gaskets, windows, mirrors and dirt at no extra charge!

[N9FE]

We'd go past the place as kids. You would see cars with tape a newspaper on them going down the street. People in the parking lot taping things off. The cars would come out the other end all one color, Tires and everything.

[NA4BH]

My last neat car was one of these. 'Cept mine had T-Tops.

http://www.hurstolds.com/photos/79_009.jpg

[w2amr]

The old brush and roller job hey george. How about Earl scheib .. I'll paint any car for $29.95. FunnyRIIIIIIGHT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjdHaMeiiQ

[w2amr]

My last neat car was one of these. 'Cept mine had T-Tops.

http://www.hurstolds.com/photos/79_009.jpg
What year was it?

[N9FE]

THERE HE IS. That damn earl shieb.. I can't belive you found that.. Good laugh for the day.. THANKS george !

[N4VGB]

THERE HE IS. That damn earl shieb.. I can't belive you found that.. Good laugh for the day.. THANKS george !

Probably just me but Earl looks like Osama bin Laden without a beard!?

[NA4BH]

What year was it?

'79. The wife picked it out. :lol: :lol:

[w2amr]

'79. The wife picked it out. :lol: :lol:That's a pretty rare bird, Probably worth quite a bit now.

[w2amr]

Probably just me but Earl looks like Osama bin Laden without a beard!?And probably just as trustworthy.

[w2amr]

THERE HE IS. That damn earl shieb.. I can't belive you found that.. Good laugh for the day.. THANKS george !RIIIIIIIGHT!
I have seen some of Earl's work. I think sometimes they just painted over the dirt.

[NA4BH]

That's a pretty rare bird, Probably worth quite a bit now.

Go find a pair of pointed toe boots. Grease up the toe and let me bend over. I rebuilt the motor (blueprinted) and had the thing where it purred like a kitten. A friend needed a car for his granddaughter, so I sold it to him for $1000. With the option of buying it back when the time came. Long story short, it ended up on a J.D.Byrider lot and was gone within 24 hours. It was too much car for her. Needless to say I lost one of my closest friends that day, as we probably spoke two words since. FSCK...... FSCK...... FSCK........

[KG4CGC]

Go find a pair of pointed toe boots. Grease up the toe and let me bend over. I rebuilt the motor (blueprinted) and had the thing where it purred like a kitten. A friend needed a car for his granddaughter, so I sold it to him for $1000. With the option of buying it back when the time came. Long story short, it ended up on a J.D.Byrider lot and was gone within 24 hours. It was too much car for her. Needless to say I lost one of my closest friends that day, as we probably spoke two words since. FSCK...... FSCK...... FSCK........

That really breaks my heart. It's like, what part of that whole conversation did you think was a joke?

[ka4dpo]

RIIIIIIIGHT!
I have seen some of Earl's work. I think sometimes they just painted over the dirt.

And the door locks, and the windows, and the chrome. Ask me how I know this. When I was a teenager in Southern California Earl was always telling us he would paint any car any color for only $29.95 ( I'm dating myself). I had a 55 Chevy Biscane and when Earl's latino paint crew got done I had to pour laquer thinner in the lock just to open the car. Got it re-painted by a guy in Santa Ana for $50 bucks and he did a nice original two tone sky blue over white. I never went back to Earl again, that's for sure..

I don't build cars anymore, I buy them, it's easier that way.

[w2amr]

The new inner fenders are on. So are the heater hoses, vacuum reserve tank and lines, electric cooling fan and thermostat control, battery, tray, and battery cables. Really glad I decided to schitt can that stock fan, and big ugly fan shroud. :agree:

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[N9FE]

Let' er Rip .. Ya Mahn

[W5GA]

George, what on the car requires using a vacuum tank? That shore is purty!! When's the lite off party?

[w2amr]

George, what on the car requires using a vacuum tank? That shore is purty!! When's the lite off party?High lift long duration cam = almost no vacuum at idle. Which means no vacuum at the power brake booster. The reserve tank will give you 2 or 3 pumps at idle. After that, yer on yer own.:lol:

I should be ready to fire it up withing the the next couple of weeks. Lots of little stuff to deal with first.

[WØTKX]

After an appropriate break in period, you're gonna rev the whee outa that thing. Yes you are. :lol:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/3172783835_e519ee3d46.jpg?v=0

[kf0rt]

High lift long duration cam = almost no vacuum at idle. Which means no vacuum at the power brake booster. The reserve tank will give you 2 or 3 pumps at idle. After that, yer on yer own.:lol:

I should be ready to fire it up withing the the next couple of weeks. Lots of little stuff to deal with first.

Be sure to have the camcorder there for the big event. Maaaaan - that looks CHERRY! Quite the talent you got there, George.

[w2amr]

After an appropriate break in period, you're gonna rev the whee outa that thing. Yes you are. :lol:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/3172783835_e519ee3d46.jpg?v=0:lol:Not till the rear end issue is dealt with. I still have to have the ring and pinion changed , and a posi unit installed. Otherwise it will just sit there spinning one wheel.

[w2amr]

Be sure to have the camcorder there for the big event. Maaaaan - that looks CHERRY! Quite the talent you got there, George.Thanks Rob. Don't worry , a video is planned for the future.

[W5GA]

:lol:Not till the rear end issue is dealt with. I still have to have the ring and pinion changed , and a posi unit installed. Otherwise it will just sit there spinning one wheel.
ONE TIRE ON FIRE!!
Didn't realize you were putting enough cam in there to impact vacuum to that extent, but after all it is a 383. What are the cam #'s?

[WØTKX]

ONE TIRE ON FIRE!!

Bleach it, bleach it good!

[w2amr]

ONE TIRE ON FIRE!!
Didn't realize you were putting enough cam in there to impact vacuum to that extent, but after all it is a 383. What are the cam #'s?
Intake 488/509 exhaust
Intake 234degrees exhaust 244 degrees

[N4VGB]

Intake 488/509 exhaust
Intake 234degrees exhaust 244 degrees

That's not too wild. Enough to kill the low end off but it should pickup quickly into midrange with a low rear gear.

The Hot Rod Magazine Power Tour rolled into town on the wrong day, lots of rain here today and even though there are around 4,000 cars downtown, I'm not getting my arse wet to see any cars.

http://www.hotrod.com/powertour/2010/2010_power_tour_official_host_cities/index.html

[w2amr]

That's not too wild. Enough to kill the low end off but it should pickup quickly into midrange with a low rear gear.

The Hot Rod Magazine Power Tour rolled into town on the wrong day, lots of rain here today and even though there are around 4,000 cars downtown, I'm not getting my arse wet to see any cars.

http://www.hotrod.com/powertour/2010/2010_power_tour_official_host_cities/index.html

Been raining here since noon, we sure need it.

[N4VGB]

Been raining here since noon, we sure need it.

Screw the rain. I can keep the flowers, shrubs and grape vines alive with the garden hose. I need some relief from this constant mowing!

Not even mentioning the rain screwing up my visit to see the Power Tour today. :angry:

[N9FE]

Bleach it, bleach it good!

And let er burn.. Burn er right down to the rim !

[KG4CGC]

And let er burn.. Burn er right down to the rim !
Been there. Back in the days of points and carbs.

[W5GA]

Been there. Back in the days of points and carbs.
Couple years ago, I had to try and explain the concept of dwell and how it related to timing to the pimply faced brat at Auto Zone. All I ever got was the deer in the headlights look.

[KG4CGC]

Couple years ago, I had to try and explain the concept of dwell and how it related to timing to the pimply faced brat at Auto Zone. All I ever got was the deer in the headlights look.
Did he try to sell you a cell phone?
LOL!

[w2amr]

Bleach it, bleach it good!Just leave the open rear in it and rotate the back tires every week. :lol:

[w2amr]

I started it yesterday. I set the timing and while I was waiting for the thermostat to open, I noticed oil dripping from under the harmonic balancer. I also notice a larger leak under the back of the engine. It looks like both valve covers are leaking at the corners at the back of the engine, and I have no clue why. It also seem the new seal in the timing chain cover is leaking. Now I have to pull the front of the engine apart again. Will Somebody fu*king shoot me please.

[ad4mg]

I started it yesterday. I set the timing and while I was waiting for the thermostat to open, I noticed oil dripping from under the harmonic balancer. I also notice a larger leak under the back of the engine. It looks like both valve covers are leaking at the corners at the back of the engine, and I have no clue why. It also seem the new seal in the timing chain cover is leaking. Now I have to pull the front of the engine apart again. Will Somebody fu*king shoot me please.
Well, not going to ask the obvious questions. Valve covers: Aftermarket valve covers always gave me problems sealing, but I thought you had used the cork/rubber composite gaskets, which usually seal very well. Only 2 options ... pull 'em and see WTF, or tighten the snot outta the bolts at the rear.

Timing cover seal: damned unusual, unless the inner edge of the seal was cut. Can you tell if it's actually the seal leaking at the shaft, or where the seal is driven into the cover ... perhaps it's not driven in flush?

Oil leaks suck. Hope they won't be as irritating to fix as they can be ...

[N4VGB]

I started it yesterday. I set the timing and while I was waiting for the thermostat to open, I noticed oil dripping from under the harmonic balancer. I also notice a larger leak under the back of the engine. It looks like both valve covers are leaking at the corners at the back of the engine, and I have no clue why. It also seem the new seal in the timing chain cover is leaking. Now I have to pull the front of the engine apart again. Will Somebody fu*king shoot me please.

Send the bill for parts and labor to the engine man you paid to build it.

[w2amr]

Well, not going to ask the obvious questions. Valve covers: Aftermarket valve covers always gave me problems sealing, but I thought you had used the cork/rubber composite gaskets, which usually seal very well. Only 2 options ... pull 'em and see WTF, or tighten the snot outta the bolts at the rear.

Timing cover seal: damned unusual, unless the inner edge of the seal was cut. Can you tell if it's actually the seal leaking at the shaft, or where the seal is driven into the cover ... perhaps it's not driven in flush?

Oil leaks suck. Hope they won't be as irritating to fix as they can be ...I finally got the valve cover leaks stopped. I gave up on the cork gaskets , and picked up a set of rubber ones. I coated both sides with RTV silicon and it sealed them up. The other leak is really off the wall schitt. I located the leak between the bottom of the timing cover and the oil pan. The seal seems to be OK. I'll clean it up and run a bead of RTV between the pan and timing cover. If that doesn't work I'll have to pull the front of the GD engine apart.

[w2amr]

"Send the bill for parts and labor to the engine man you paid to build it."

Why? I put the tin on it. All I got back from him was the short block and heads.

[ad4mg]

I finally got the valve cover leaks stopped. I gave up on the cork gaskets , and picked up a set of rubber ones. I coated both sides with RTV silicon and it sealed them up. The other leak is really off the wall schitt. I located the leak between the bottom of the timing cover and the oil pan. The seal seems to be OK. I'll clean it up and run a bead of RTV between the pan and timing cover. If that doesn't work I'll have to pull the front of the GD engine apart.
Yeah, I've had problems with that part of the TC gasket before on small block Chevrolet engines. Seems to always roll and pinch itself when pushing the timing cover into place. Where that gasket sets in the timing cover lip is a damn good place to use that fast drying Permatex to hold that b1tch in place! :)

[N4VGB]

Why? I put the tin on it. All I got back from him was the short block and heads.



Hmmmmmmmmmmm. :lol:

[w2amr]

Yeah, I've had problems with that part of the TC gasket before on small block Chevrolet engines. Seems to always roll and pinch itself when pushing the timing cover into place. Where that gasket sets in the timing cover lip is a damn good place to use that fast drying Permatex to hold that b1tch in place! :)I put a dab of RTV in the corners where the OP gaskets overlap the rubber gasket for bottom of timing chain cover. There is no way thig friggin thing should be leaking. :wall:
Yesterday I used high temp silicone to seal the gap between the oil pan and the timimg cover. If this doesn't work the front of the engine will have to come apart. In the meantime I'll start on the back brakes.

[w2amr]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. :lol:Yeah yeah, I know.

[w2amr]

The brakes are finished and the engine is alive. Still need a bit of tinkering ,but it sounds pretty good early on.

http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/jerseygeorge441/?action=view&current=383.mp4

[ad4mg]

The brakes are finished and the engine is alive. Still need a bit of tinkering ,but it sounds pretty good early on.

http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/jerseygeorge441/?action=view&current=383.mp4
Sweet!

[w2amr]

Sweet!I talked to the guy who built the engine, and told him about the leaks. He asked me who made the valve covers and timimg cover, I told him Pro Form. He said he knows guys with Pro Form stuff who are having the same problems. Now he tells me. :wall:

[N9FE]

You would think someone would have come up with a fix for that age old problem. Like detroit diesel did with impregnating the gaskets with sealer.

[KG4CGC]

Chilled Legumes on the vid, George.

[w2amr]

Chilled Legumes on the vid, George.:cheers:

[WØTKX]

That's great! We're still waiting for "Bleach-Tire Chevy, the Movie". :lol:

Sounds great, would make a cool replacement sound for "Windows Startup".

[w2amr]

That's great! We're still waiting for "Bleach-Tire Chevy, the Movie". :lol:

Sounds great, would make a cool replacement sound for "Windows Startup".
I had it out for a couple of short rides today. I can't go very far till I get the front end alignment set. I hardly gave it any throttle and it sets you back in the seat. This thing is QUICK. Cant wait till the engine is broken in, and I have the right rear end gear. Woo Hoo! :dance:

[WØTKX]

That evil slobberin' grin agin'! Put your shoes on, you might burn your feet... :mrgreen:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/3172783835_e519ee3d46.jpg?v=0

[KG4CGC]

I had it out for a couple of short rides today. I can't go very far till I get the front end alignment set. I hardly gave it any throttle and it sets you back in the seat. This thing is QUICK. Cant wait till the engine is broken in, and I have the right rear end gear. Woo Hoo! :dance:
Are you saying that the rear end is geared too low?
Friend of mine in HS bought a Vega with a 289 and drag rails in the back. Barely street legal, burned through all three gears of the Turbo 350 tranny (I believe it was ???) with 50's on the back. Thing needed 2 more gears in my opinion.

[W5GA]

That evil slobberin' grin agin'! Put your shoes on, you might burn your feet... :mrgreen:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/3172783835_e519ee3d46.jpg?v=0
OMG, I haven't seen a Rat Fink poster in YEARS!

[w2amr]

Are you saying that the rear end is geared too low?
Friend of mine in HS bought a Vega with a 289 and drag rails in the back. Barely street legal, burned through all three gears of the Turbo 350 tranny (I believe it was ???) with 50's on the back. Thing needed 2 more gears in my opinion.No, It's geared too high. The 3k stall converter needs a rear end gear between 3:50 and 3:70
A 289 Ford with a turbo 350 trans in a Vega? Interesting combo.

[N8YX]

No, It's geared too high. The 3k stall converter needs a rear end gear between 3:50 and 3:70
A 289 Ford with a turbo 350 trans in a Vega? Interesting combo.
How about a blown 460 in a Pinto? Full cage, tubbed...the works.

If it shows up at our local meet this summer I'll get pix...

[KG4CGC]

No, It's geared too high. The 3k stall converter needs a rear end gear between 3:50 and 3:70
A 289 Ford with a turbo 350 trans in a Vega? Interesting combo.
It was a 2-something V8. Def not a Ford motor. His mother told him not to buy it and the shifter hit the fan when he brought it home.

So, geared to high when the stall converter kicks in means it wants to ................ yep, I'm not having the clues.

[w2amr]

How about a blown 460 in a Pinto? Full cage, tubbed...the works.

If it shows up at our local meet this summer I'll get pix...
I would like to see that.:agree:

[w2amr]

It was a 2-something V8. Def not a Ford motor. His mother told him not to buy it and the shifter hit the fan when he brought it home.

So, geared to high when the stall converter kicks in means it wants to ................ yep, I'm not having the clues.

Put a vehicle in drive, with one foot on the brake, hold the throttle wide open. The maximum rpm during this condition is the converter stall. An engine with a high lift long duration cam has very little power at low RPM. A higher stall converter will raise the rpm closer to the bottom of the engines power curve when moving from a stop. A lower ratio rear also helps. Is that a big 10-4?

[KG4CGC]

Put a vehicle in drive, with one foot on the brake, hold the throttle wide open. The maximum rpm during this condition is the converter stall. An engine with a high lift long duration cam has very little power at low RPM. A higher stall converter will raise the rpm closer to the bottom of the engines power curve when moving from a stop. A lower ratio rear also helps. Is that a big 10-4?
See and I didn't even know all that high lift stuff was involved in making that decision. Roh-joe!

[N9FE]

Put a vehicle in drive, with one foot on the brake, hold the throttle wide open. The maximum rpm during this condition is the converter stall. An engine with a high lift long duration cam has very little power at low RPM. A higher stall converter will raise the rpm closer to the bottom of the engines power curve when moving from a stop. A lower ratio rear also helps. Is that a big 10-4?
Must have about 75 or 76 my grandma was visiting. She was about 70 or so. There trying to go backward and forward at the same time ! She yelled at my mom. The smoke was rising in the air, I was going to call the fire dept. To funny. She was watching my brother and i with a 69 camero out on the road lightin em up.

[WØTKX]

Haven't owned an automatic in years, let alone a V8. That launching method is fun and educational, it's been awhile.

Shortly after H.S. graduation, a buddy (another hamster) and I bleached a set of new cheap tires on either side of the main entrace at our alma mater. His big block Merc and my big block Oldsnowmobile in opposite directions. My little sister used to tell me marks in the concrete were still there. :lol:

It was just before 3AM. Boy did that stink, my car reeked of rubber for a few days.

[w2amr]

Here is a short half throttle ride. Sorry about the poor quality, the wind noise kills the camera's audio @ 45 MPH
http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/jerseygeorge441/?action=view&current=ride.mp4&newest=1

[ad4mg]

Did you get the 4.11 gear in, or was the converter keeping the RPM's up? I noted 3200 RPM @ 50 MPH ...

That baby is going to absolutely suck down the fuel! :lol:

[WØTKX]

Who cares if it goes like stink!

[w2amr]

Did you get the 4.11 gear in, or was the converter keeping the RPM's up? I noted 3200 RPM @ 50 MPH ...

That baby is going to absolutely suck down the fuel! :lol:It's the converter. I still have the stock 2:73 gear in it. Once you get to 50, if you just feather the throttle it stays around 2300.

[W5GA]

George, one of my older brothers is waiting for you. He's running a 383 in a 72 Chevelle 4 door (it was cheap), lot's 'o cam (don't know what the numbers are) and about 10 psi from a Pro Charger. I could fill a novel over his 200-4R from Art Carr.

[w2amr]

George, one of my older brothers is waiting for you. He's running a 383 in a 72 Chevelle 4 door (it was cheap), lot's 'o cam (don't know what the numbers are) and about 10 psi from a Pro Charger. I could fill a novel over his 200-4R from Art Carr.My days of acceleration contests are long gone.:lol:

[w2amr]

I finally got the front end alignment done today . It steers and rides like a new 72 Chevelle. :agree: I'm happy. :dance:

[kc7jty]

It's the converter. I still have the stock 2:73 gear in it. Once you get to 50, if you just feather the throttle it stays around 2300.

no overdrive. the biggest waste of gasoline (and engines) in history.

[w2amr]

no overdrive. the biggest waste of gasoline (and engines) in history.Actually this tank of gas is lasting quite a while. Like anything else, if you keep your foot out of it. I still haven't layed into it yet, while I wait for the engine to break in.

[kc7jty]

The modern dual overdrive auto will turn 2200 rpm at 60. My single overdrive Versa 6 speed manual does 2800 at 60. WHEN i GO CLOSE TO/OVER 3K RPM THE FUEL ECONOMY TANKS BECAUSE THE ENGINE REVS ARE TOO HIGH.

[N2NH]

I finally got the front end alignment done today . It steers and rides like a new 72 Chevelle. :agree: I'm happy. :dance:

That is one beautiful car George. I hope someday to get my hands on a 63 Impala with a V-8 and do a cross-country run, maybe even a decent part of Route 66 (which my father hated when he drove it).

[kc7jty]

I HUNG WITH A FRIEND WHO HAD A 1960 Impala convertable with a 327 in it.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-impala-1960-1.jpg

[N2NH]

I HUNG WITH A FRIEND WHO HAD A 1960 Impala convertable with a 327 in it.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-impala-1960-1.jpg

That 60 is a really nice looking car and that's a legendary engine. Sweet. I changed to a 63 when I saw the pics. With that giant engine compartment, you could stick nearly any engine made. I wonder how it would do with a 'vette engine, tranny and suspension.

Yeh, it's blasphemy, but it'd work for me. ;)

http://i30.tinypic.com/5ciznq.jpg

[N2NH]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2ewh0y8.jpg1964 Ford Fairlane
http://i30.tinypic.com/jhprv5.jpg1966 Pontiac GTO

[w2amr]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2ewh0y8.jpg1964 Ford Fairlane
http://i30.tinypic.com/jhprv5.jpg1966 Pontiac GTOThat 64 Fairlane looks like a stock car, or a drag car.

[w2amr]

:dance:It's all back together.

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[kf0rt]

She's a beaut, George. :agree:

[KG4CGC]

She's a beaut, George. :agree:
Yep. A real Montana.

[NQ6U]

She's a beaut, George. :agree:

No, she's a mound.

(for any closet Firesign Theatre fans who may be lurking out there)

[KG4CGC]

A real Red Rocket Red Rocket.
(for any closet South Park fans who may be lurking out there)

[ad4mg]

Makes me miss my 442 Olds even more. Damn, George, you even have the same tires I had ... B.F. Goodrich Radial TA's!

Beautiful job on the restoration!

[w2amr]

Tnx Guys, for the most part it has been a fun project.

[NA4BH]

:dance:It's all back together.

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Is it Cowl Induction?

[kc7jty]

I googled cow inductor images and this came up:
http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/ent_images/9181_welcoming%20spring.jpg

[w2amr]

Is it Cowl Induction?No.

[w2amr]

I googled cow inductor images and this came up:
http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/ent_images/9181_welcoming%20spring.jpg
Rimshot. :lol:

[w2amr]

As long as I've owned it, the car has leaned to the right about 1 1/2 " I put in two new rear springs, This got it down to 3/4". I put a new mounting pad on the right spring, and left it off the left one. This got it down to 1/4". Hardly noticeable.:agree:

[KA9MOT]

Here ya go, George. Summit is pretty much right up the street from me - I've seen these niceties in stock:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/gbe-10800_w.jpg

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GBE-10800/?image=large

Save yourself a little time ... :lol:

Oh! You are so fortunate. JC WHitney is right up the street from me and that place sucks!

[w2amr]

Oh! You are so fortunate. JC WHitney is right up the street from me and that place sucks!Geez, are they still in business? I remember all the junk they used to sell when I was a kid.:lol:

[w2amr]

What a find. Wonder if the guy ended up getting it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tbbq3WsRSo&feature=related

[w2amr]

So I start looking around for the new parts for the rear. 3.73 ring and pinion, an Eaton posi unit or a Detroit locker. I learned this car used 3 different series rears.
2-series fits 2.50 to 2.73 ratio carrier.
3-Series fits 3.07 to 3.73 ratio carrier.
4-Series fits 3.90 and numerically higher carrier.
The KD prefix stamped on my housing indicates I have a 12 bolt, non posi rear with 2.73 gears.
A 3.73 gear will not fit in this carrier. I have to find a 3 series carrier/housing and change the whole goddamn thing.
:cry:
:wall:

[NA4BH]

So I start looking around for the new parts for the rear. 3.73 ring and pinion, an Eaton posi unit or a Detroit locker. I learned this car used 3 different series rears.
2-series fits 2.50 to 2.73 ratio carrier.
3-Series fits 3.07 to 3.73 ratio carrier.
4-Series fits 3.90 and numerically higher carrier.
The KD prefix stamped on my housing indicates I have a 12 bolt, non posi rear with 2.73 gears.
A 3.73 gear will not fit in this carrier. I have to find a 3 series carrier/housing and change the whole goddamn thing.
:cry:
:wall:

I'm here to help. Give me the car and end your misery. :whistle: :whistle:

[kc7jty]

Krice George! Why would you want to go to 3.73? Is street rodding getting back into your blood? Your fuel economy will completely crap out.

I had a '69 Camaro 12 bolt posi rear I modified to fit the '64 Chevy II. I think the original ratio was 3.38 or something. I had it converted to 4.10.

[kf0rt]

The Island: We're here to hep! :rofl:

[w2amr]

The Island: We're here to hep! :rofl:Anytime now would be good.

[w2amr]

Krice George! Why would you want to go to 3.73? Is street rodding getting back into your blood? Your fuel economy will completely crap out.

I had a '69 Camaro 12 bolt posi rear I modified to fit the '64 Chevy II. I think the original ratio was 3.38 or something. I had it converted to 4.10.The car was put together with a 3.73 in mind. Cam, torque converter stall, rear tire height, etc. Right now the performance of the car is taking a beating with this 2.73 gear in it. I didn't put the car together to cruise the interstates @ 80 mph.

[w2amr]

This pretty much explains what is going on.



The difference between a 2, 3 and 4 series is the location of the ring gear flange. A 2.73 gear has 15 teeth on the pinion. This is a large diameter pinion head. The 3.73 has 11 teeth on the pinion. This is a medium size pinion head. The housing is cast the same for all 12 bolt rear ends, so the pinion position does not change. Because of the difference in the diameter of the pinion head, the ring gear must be moved either closer or farther away from the pinion center line. A large pinion 2.73 gear needs the ring gear moved away from the pinion centerline, so it uses a 2 series differential with the ring gear flange moved farther to the left. A medium pinion 3.73 gear needs the ring gear closer to the pinion center line, so it uses a 3 series differential with the ring gear flange moved farther to the right. The 12 bolt also has a 4 series differential with the ring gear flange moved even farther to the right that is used for smaller pinion head gears like the 4.10 to 6.00 gears.

There are special gear sets made to adapt 4.10, 4.56 and 4.88 gears to the 3 series differential. Thes have thicker ring gears to make up the difference in the flange offset. There is also a special thin 3.73 that will fit the 4 series differential. There are no thick 3 series gears that will fit the 2 series differential. You can use a ring gear spacer, but these usually nothing but trouble. The last one that I removed had all 12 of the ring gear bolts sheared off. They can also allow the ring gear to run off center.

[KG4CGC]

I didn't put the car together to cruise the interstates @ 80 mph. Why not?

[w2amr]

Why not?Because going fast scares me.:scared:

[kc7jty]

I wish my Nissan Versa 6 speed (very close ratio) had more overdrive to cruise at 80.
Whatever floats your boat George. I just bought the 4.10 gears from a Chevy dealer then had them installed at a speed (sorry, not meth) shop.

[w2amr]

I wish my Nissan Versa 6 speed (very close ratio) had more overdrive to cruise at 80.
Whatever floats your boat George. I just bought the 4.10 gears from a Chevy dealer then had them installed at a speed (sorry, not meth) shop. Oh yeah, if I had a 3 series rear I could do the same thing. I don't know why they used such high ratio gearing in this thing.

[KG4CGC]

'72 Buick Skylark, 350 2bbl etc. stock.
My friend and I each had one after high school, he "souped" his up but we both never broke the 86 mph mark. Of course we could both boil off a set of retreads in under 100 yards. Boil them off. Spin them till flat.

[w2amr]

Good news, I don't have to replace the entire housing. Just the carrier that holds the differential. If I use a 3 series posi traction carrier the 3.73 ring and pinion will fit FB.

[N2NH]

I didn't put the car together to cruise the interstates @ 80 mph.

That's good George. I'd say that 80 MPH would be way too slow for that car.:yes:

[w2amr]

That's good George. I'd say that 80 MPH would be way too slow for that car.:yes:I'll have you know my good man, I always respect speed limits.:mrgreen:

[kc7jty]

http://www.iihs.org/laws/mapmaxspeedonruralinterstates.aspx
Speeding's not a problem on the Interstates for me. My crappy car's fuel economy goes straight to hell when I go above 65.

[NQ6U]

Speeding's not a problem on the Interstates for me..

Not for me, either. I drive a '95 Ford Ranger with a 4-banger in it. Gets acceptable fuel mileage but the only way I could coax it to go faster than the speed limit in most places would be to drop it out of an airplane.

[kf0rt]

http://www.iihs.org/laws/mapmaxspeedonruralinterstates.aspx
Speeding's not a problem on the Interstates for me. My crappy car's fuel economy goes straight to hell when I go above 65.

On a Versa? Really? I've had a few Nissans, and their fuel economy has never been too affected by speed. The Altima seems to get about 25, no matter what. 30 on a good downhill.

[w2amr]

On a Versa? Really? I've had a few Nissans, and their fuel economy has never been too affected by speed. The Altima seems to get about 25, no matter what. 30 on a good downhill.You have an Altima Rob?

[kf0rt]

You have an Altima Rob?

Yeah, an '07 2.5S (got it used a couple years ago).

[w2amr]

Yeah, an '07 2.5S (got it used a couple years ago).We have 6 of them in our fleet. Let me know when/if you run into any problems, I might be able to help .

[kc7jty]

On a Versa? Really? I've had a few Nissans, and their fuel economy has never been too affected by speed. The Altima seems to get about 25, no matter what. 30 on a good downhill.

Most modern cars, especially the automatic transmission models, have dual overdrive. My 6 speed only has 1. It was a way of promoting the more expensive automatic version.
The mileage under 55 mph, even when I do some driving in urban areas, is unbelievable at 33 or even better.
If I drive @70 with the cruise on using the whole tank of gas it's around 29 because the rpms are so high. If I drive 75, which is the speed limit here, it drops to 28.

[W5GA]

Not for me, either. I drive a '95 Ford Ranger with a 4-banger in it. Gets acceptable fuel mileage but the only way I could coax it to go faster than the speed limit in most places would be to drop it out of an airplane.
You need to go to Bakersfield or Tehachapi more often...those grades were made for a vehicle like yours.

[NQ6U]

You need to go to Bakersfield or Tehachapi more often...those grades were made for a vehicle like yours.

The problem with that is the l-o-n-g grade to the top of the Grapevine before you can have fun on the downhill side. Man, was it ever fun negotiating that hill in a fully-loaded 18-wheeler: a 15 MPH grind uphill for thirty minutes, then sixth gear with full Jake brake all the way down the other side. Seemed to take forever.

[W3MIV]

Reminds me of a fave flick: The Duel.

[kf0rt]

We have 6 of them in our fleet. Let me know when/if you run into any problems, I might be able to help .

Cool! I've actually been pretty pleased with the Altima. Been driving Nissans for years, and they're pretty reliable. This is my first "daily driver" with an automatic, and it's CVT. Nissan adjusted the warranty out to 100K on the transmission. The weak spot seems to be the brakes - squeaky, but they work fine. I've got the whole service manual in PDF files; runs about 10,000 pages.

Good car; been happy with it so far and it's not breaking the bank on maintenance. We went to South Dakota last month for 11 days and took the (1999) Blazer -- needed the room. The Blazer ran with no problems (1300+ miles), but I swear I've put about $3K in maintenance over the last year.

[W5GA]

The problem with that is the l-o-n-g grade to the top of the Grapevine before you can have fun on the downhill side. Man, was it ever fun negotiating that hill in a fully-loaded 18-wheeler: a 15 MPH grind uphill for thirty minutes, then sixth gear with full Jake brake all the way down the other side. Seemed to take forever.

You ever been over the grade between Truckee and Kings Beach (on Lake Tahoe)? 9% for about 2 miles going down towards the lake, with a no choice 90 degree right or left about 50 yards from the water. That can be a white knuckle ride, too.

[kc7jty]

full Jake brake all the way down the other side.

What is Jake brake exactly? Is that full throttle with no fuel?

[kc7jty]

Westbound into Bullhead City or Eastbound into Laughlin.

[W5GA]

What is Jake brake exactly? Is that full throttle with no fuel?
It's a type of exhaust brake for a diesel engine I believe.

[NQ6U]

What is Jake brake exactly? Is that full throttle with no fuel?

It's a device that holds open the exhaust valves on the compression stroke of a diesel engine, essentially turning it into an air compressor. The kinetic energy of the truck is dissipated by compressing and heating the air. They are a great invention, making negotiating steep downhill grades much safer because the driver doesn't have to rely on the regular road brakes which can fail due to overheating on long grades. It also allows a truck to safely take the grade faster than with downgearing alone.

[kc7jty]

It's a device that holds open the exhaust valves on the compression stroke of a diesel engine, essentially turning it into an air compressor. The kinetic energy of the truck is dissipated by compressing and heating the air. They are a great invention, making negotiating steep downhill grades much safer because the driver doesn't have to rely on the regular road brakes which can fail due to overheating on long grades. It also allows a truck to safely take the grade faster.

Just a straight air compressor without the compression stroke? Seems that wouldn't be enough to cause much resistance without pressure building in the exhaust system. They sure are loud.

[NQ6U]

Reminds me of a fave flick: The Duel.

Well, Albi, I may be hitting the road again before long. If it happens, I'd be happy to give you a ride to see what life in a truck is like next time I'm in MD.

Hint: pretty tedious, mostly.

[kc7jty]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_release_engine_brake
De-stool engines have no throttle!

Your explanation was close but no cigar.

[N2NH]

I'll have you know my good man, I always respect speed limits.:mrgreen:

I do too. But if you're going too fast to read the sign, who's to know what that is?8)

[w2amr]

I just ordered the rear parts from Jeg's.
3.73 Richmond ring and pinion $176
Richmond install kit $92
Eaton Posi traction carrier $470

Total with shipping $750

$640 labor to put everything in

I can get the new axel bearings and oil seals at NAPA for about $25.

The total should be just over $1400
Bye bye savings :sadwave:

[ad4mg]

I just ordered the rear parts from Jeg's.
3.73 Richmond ring and pinion $176
Richmond install kit $92
Eaton Posi traction carrier $470

Total with shipping $750

$640 labor to put everything in

I can get the new axel bearings and oil seals at NAPA for about $25.

The total should be just over $1400
Bye bye savings :sadwave:
Whew! $640 for the labor? Not a job for the feint of heart, but it isn't all that complicated. Guess this is why the 9" Ford rears are so sought after. Just change the whole hog head and be done with it ...

[w2amr]

Whew! $640 for the labor? Not a job for the feint of heart, but it isn't all that complicated. Guess this is why the 9" Ford rears are so sought after. Just change the whole hog head and be done with it ... Just like the old 57 olds and Pontiac rears we used to run . Yank out the axels,driveshaft, then the bolts that hold it to the housing, it's out.
From what I have heard the 12 bolt is a real PITA to set up. Best to spend the money the first time and have it done right.

[ad4mg]

Just like the old 57 olds and Pontiac rears we used to run . Yank out the axels,driveshaft, then the bolts that hold it to the housing, it's out.
From what I have heard the 12 bolt is a real PITA to set up. Best to spend the money the first time and have it done right.
Yeah, let someone else take responsibility for the re-do if that bitch whines after its set up ...

Love the new avatar ... KnobDepot? Heh, heh ... :lol:

[kc7jty]

3.73 posi in that car is for one thing...fast starts off the line. Good to see there's still some youthful sap in your tree George.
You're fuel economy @ 55/60 mph will crap by 20%.

In 1971:
12 bolt 3.38 posi from 1969 Z/28 Camaro at wrecking yard = $100
4.10 ring, pinion, and whatever else was needed from Chevy dealer = $80
Install at K&G speed shop = $100 max (maybe a bit less)
Chevy II mount brackets welded onto Camaro axle (I cold chiseled the Camaro brackets off myself) = $10

[kc7jty]

Love the new avatar ... KnobDepot? Heh, heh ... :lol:
that other one gave me a headache, even when I didn't look at it.

[KG4CGC]

that other one gave me a headache, even when I didn't look at it.
Yeah, made me have to run to the restroom.

[w2amr]

3.73 posi in that car is for one thing...fast starts off the line. Good to see there's still some youthful sap in your tree George.
You're fuel economy @ 55/60 mph will crap by 20%.

Yeah well, I figure what the hell. Yer only old once.

[kc7jty]

What you should do is keep the 2.73 rear and get another whole rear axle and differential for the 3.73 gears.

After the novelty of the 4.10 wore off I put the 3.08 10 bold back in the Chevy II. Got tired of winding it out to 50 mph then coasting back down to 35.

[w2amr]

What you should do is keep the 2.73 rear and get another whole rear axle and differential for the 3.73 gears.

After the novelty of the 4.10 wore off I put the 3.08 10 bold back in the Chevy II. Got tired of winding it out to 50 mph then coasting back down to 35.That is why I'm going with a 3.73 gear. It's a nice compromise. Plenty of snap but still driveable @ 50 mph without the engine screaming. But I will hang on to the open carrier and stock ring and pinion.

[kc7jty]

Another ball buster avatar I see.

[w2amr]

Yeah, made me have to run to the restroom.How ya like me now?:mrgreen:

[w2amr]

Another ball buster avatar I see.
Sorry my good man but you must have me confused with someone else.:angel:

[w2amr]

I drop off the Chevelle Fri. morning to have the rear work done. I'm all excited.:hyper:

[w2amr]

The rear is done and what a difference. Just touch the throttle and this thing jumps. Now the speedometer is way off, so I have to figure which speedo gear to use in the transmission to correct it.

Here's how it shakes out
Eaton Posi unit- $500
Richmond 3:73 ring and pinion- $176
Richmond install kit- $92
Wheel bearings and seals- $79.64
Gear oil, additive- $34.67
Labor- $635
Total- $1.517. 31
And I'm not done. The guy at the shop who did the work , told me both rear axles are grooved where they ride on the wheel bearings. Two new decent quality axles will cost me about $300, but I can put them in myself later on. I may spend the extra money and get a set of hardened axles from a company like Strange.

[KG4CGC]

So, what do you drive during the NJ winters?

[kc7jty]

Money money! My entire 350/375 cost me about $700 back in 1971.
I had the secondary kit on the Holley 780. Just touch the gas pedal and it was instant screech.
Have fun George, your mileage is costing you now.

[NQ6U]

You probably could have duplicated the entire contents of my shack for $1.517. 31. Not that you'd want to, but you could.

[w2amr]

So, what do you drive during the NJ winters?A 94 Jeep Wrangler.

[w2amr]

Money money! My entire 350/375 cost me about $700 back in 1971.
I had the secondary kit on the Holley 780. Just touch the gas pedal and it was instant screech.
Have fun George, your mileage is costing you now.
I don't care, this thing is a frigging blast to drive.:dance:

[w2amr]

You probably could have duplicated the entire contents of my shack for $1.517. 31. Not that you'd want to, but you could.Like Bill mentioned, the prices for this stuff has gone through the roof. The good news is, I could probable recoup most of my money if I sold it.

[KG4CGC]

Like Bill mentioned, the prices for this stuff has gone through the roof. The good news is, I could probable recoup most of my money if I sold it.
But then you'd just buy another project and start the whole thing all over again. Have you seen how much pizza delivery money goes into some of these tuners the kids drive? I can appreciate a small sports car but over-tuning a 2 liter 4 banger and expecting it to handle being dogged all day is not something the experienced driver generally does. Thus, the tuner market is large and over priced. There are a lot used ones to chose from after you talk them down from that 30 story hi-rise that they set the price on. Hey kid, I don't care how much you put in it! A car is a money pit and you're never going to get your money back.
Kid wanted $7800 for a 14 year old Civic because it had a paint job, body kit, cold air intake and a fart can muffler. Add to the equation that he drove it like he stole it. he also thought his Wal-Mart stereo and speakers were actually worth something. LOL!

[w2amr]

But then you'd just buy another project and start the whole thing all over again. Have you seen how much pizza delivery money goes into some of these tuners the kids drive? I can appreciate a small sports car but over-tuning a 2 liter 4 banger and expecting it to handle being dogged all day is not something the experienced driver generally does. Thus, the tuner market is large and over priced. There are a lot used ones to chose from after you talk them down from that 30 story hi-rise that they set the price on. Hey kid, I don't care how much you put in it! A car is a money pit and you're never going to get your money back.
Kid wanted $7800 for a 14 year old Civic because it had a paint job, body kit, cold air intake and a fart can muffler. Add to the equation that he drove it like he stole it. he also thought his Wal-Mart stereo and speakers were actually worth something. LOL!It's a generation gap thing I guess. I would rather walk.:lol:
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[kc7jty]

the tires and wheels are worth more than the car.

[w2amr]

the tires and wheels are worth more than the car.Green car with blue wheels, are these guys color blind?

[WX7P]

But then you'd just buy another project and start the whole thing all over again. Have you seen how much pizza delivery money goes into some of these tuners the kids drive? I can appreciate a small sports car but over-tuning a 2 liter 4 banger and expecting it to handle being dogged all day is not something the experienced driver generally does. Thus, the tuner market is large and over priced. There are a lot used ones to chose from after you talk them down from that 30 story hi-rise that they set the price on. Hey kid, I don't care how much you put in it! A car is a money pit and you're never going to get your money back.
Kid wanted $7800 for a 14 year old Civic because it had a paint job, body kit, cold air intake and a fart can muffler. Add to the equation that he drove it like he stole it. he also thought his Wal-Mart stereo and speakers were actually worth something. LOL!

Junk.

Lots of that garbage scooting around the Tomato.

As for the "fart can", you can thank Santa Rosa (CA)'s own Flowmaster for those atrocities. I hate those things, but they're big with the punk kid crowd.

I tried to find an 80's Honda CRX just as a commute driver before I bought the Escort diesel. Good luck. They've all been chopped and mufflerified and painted weird colors.

[NA4BH]

Green car with blue wheels, are these guys color blind?

Their momma's still dress them.

[w2amr]

Their momma's still dress them.
I guess :lol:

[w2amr]

Junk.

Lots of that garbage scooting around the Tomato.

As for the "fart can", you can thank Santa Rosa (CA)'s own Flowmaster for those atrocities. I hate those things, but they're big with the punk kid crowd.

I tried to find an 80's Honda CRX just as a commute driver before I bought the Escort diesel. Good luck. They've all been chopped and mufflerified and painted weird colors.
There's a kid running around here with an old Civic with what looks to be a picnic table bolted to the trunk lid.
I love the big chrome mufflers with the 4" opening at the back and the 1 1/4 " inlet.:lol:

[w2amr]

So I decided to take the Chevelle to work last Monday.The engine cranks but won't start. After work I check it out and find I have no spark from my new Mallory HEI
distributor . I had 12 volts at the primary connector , so I pulled off the cap and checked the rotor and coil contacts. Everything looked ok. I sent Mallory an E mail and explained what was going on. They told me to send the distributor to them and they would repair it, Turn around time 3 to 4 weeks. On a hunch I bought an after market electronic module for $42 and installed it in the distributor . Problem solved. The module that came with the distributor lasted less then 500 miles. And Mallory calls it a high performance distributor.:roll:

[kc7jty]

Make 'em pay..
I worked for MSD for a few months.

[w2amr]

Make 'em pay..
I worked for MSD for a few months.Now I'm thinking the MSD HEI would have been the smart move.

[WØTKX]

Junk.

Lots of that garbage scooting around the Tomato.

As for the "fart can", you can thank Santa Rosa (CA)'s own Flowmaster for those atrocities. I hate those things, but they're big with the punk kid crowd.

I tried to find an 80's Honda CRX just as a commute driver before I bought the Escort diesel. Good luck. They've all been chopped and mufflerified and painted weird colors.

I was damn lucky to find that 'lil white Integra I drive in basically stock condition. I want to find another one, almost 180k on it now. Still getting 34-36 mpg if I drive it mellow, and it drops to about thirty if I drive it hard. Gotta rev it to 5K to waste gas, but the car moves pretty fast then. I keep looking for a creampuff Vtech, and they are usally slammed to shit.

Surprised that Versa doesn't do better, it's a neat little car... they are quiet and comfortable. I'm thinking of a used Echo or Corolla if I don't get stupid and get an Audi A4. There's a lot of those around here, and they will get 30+ mpg with the AWD activated. Heck, a used and well kept Benz 90's E320 is only 6K, and that's with 4Matic. Unfortunately they get about 10-25mpg. Damn nice ride though. Tons of decent AWD Volvos around here too.

[NQ6U]

The module that came with the distributor lasted less then 500 miles. And Mallory calls it a high performance distributor.:roll:

It is. It's a high-performance profit generator for Mallory.

[KG4CGC]

I didn't know engine builders were still using Mallory. What the heck keeps them in business? Made in China?

[KG4CGC]

I was damn lucky to find that 'lil white Integra I drive in basically stock condition. I want to find another one, almost 180k on it now. Still getting 34-36 mpg if I drive it mellow, and it drops to about thirty if I drive it hard. Gotta rev it to 5K to waste gas, but the car moves pretty fast then. I keep looking for a creampuff Vtech, and they are usally slammed to shit.

Surprised that Versa doesn't do better, it's a neat little car... they are quiet and comfortable. I'm thinking of a used Echo or Corolla if I don't get stupid and get an Audi A4. There's a lot of those around here, and they will get 30+ mpg with the AWD activated. Heck, a used and well kept Benz 90's E320 is only 6K, and that's with 4Matic. Unfortunately they get about 10-25mpg. Damn nice ride though. Tons of decent AWD Volvos around here too.
The A4 is nice but the maintenance costs are a nightmare as there are many dealer only service points on the vehicle.

[w2amr]

I didn't know engine builders were still using Mallory. What the heck keeps them in business? Made in China?The engine builder didn't buy it, I did. I have had problems getting this engine to idle properly since it was rebuilt, I thought it was the Quadra jet. Now the engine is running much better and the idle is just fine. This module in the distributor must have been bad out of the box, and then gave up completely. Live and learn.

[W7XF]

Money money! My entire 350/375 cost me about $700 back in 1971.
I had the secondary kit on the Holley 780. Just touch the gas pedal and it was instant screech.
Have fun George, your mileage is costing you now.

Your mileage may vary, depending on pressure exerted on accelerator pedal, amount of moonshine in the fuel AND in the trunk, number of potential sex partners in the vehicle, cases of cheap beer in the trunk, etc. :rofl:

[w2amr]

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[W5GA]

Now I'm thinking the MSD HEI would have been the smart move.
The hi-po car forums aren't very nice to them, either. If you want a real eye opener, see the comments on the MSD Opti-Spark distributor. The hot ticket for an LT1 performance distributor is....Delco.

[w2amr]

The hi-po car forums aren't very nice to them, either. If you want a real eye opener, see the comments on the MSD Opti-Spark distributor. The hot ticket for an LT1 performance distributor is....Delco.
It's running ok now, so I stick with this for the time being. Now I have to start saving for a new set of axles.

[kc7jty]

Surprised that Versa doesn't do better, it's a neat little car

actually it gets 35+ mpg between here and town (with some city type driving). The fuel tank has to be coddled to fill it all the way up which gives me wild fluxuations in the mpg readings. I was taking the lower ones and upping them a bit to be safe, but balanced out it's 35+.

The price combined with the plush interior and full features is what sold me on the Versa SL. I really wanted a little wagon but they were a lot more $$$ and were brands I didn't know or like (Ford, Suzuki, etc)

[kc7jty]

I thought it was the Quadra jet.

oh no, not one of those fawlkin things. A Holley 600 on a plain Edelbrock high rise will out perform it.
You got the stock cast iron intake on that engine!!!?? Stock cam? What heads?


For example, on a mild 350 Chevy the air valve will never open all the way - because the motor can't use more than 600 cfm or so.

http://www.carburetor.ca/carbs/tech/Rochester/Quadrajet-index.html

[w2amr]

oh no, not one of those fawlkin things. A Holley 600 on a plain Edelbrock high rise will out perform it.
You got the stock cast iron intake on that engine!!!?? Stock cam? What heads?



http://www.carburetor.ca/carbs/tech/Rochester/Quadrajet-index.html
Try to keep up Bill.:-D
It has a sealed power cam
Intake/ Exhaust
488/502
234/244 degrees
Stock heads with 3 angle valve cut.
Stock cast iron manifold with a 750 Q jet. Just cruising it get decent mileage with those tiny primaries. Open the secondaries and it will plant you in the seat. :yes:

[w2amr]

It is. It's a high-performance profit generator for Mallory. I doubt it. I don't see too many street rodders using them, only dummies like me.:doh:

[w2amr]

I knew the speedometer wasn't accurate with the new gear ratio in the Chevelle. To figure out the right speedo gear to use in the trans to correct the error, I needed to know how many MPH it is off by. So, Kath and I took a ride yesterday, she operated the GPS. Here's how it shakes out.

Speedo reading Actual speed
40 32
50 39
60 47
70 55
For every 10 MPH increase in speed ,the error increases by about 2 MPH.
WTF is going on here?

[kc7jty]

WTF is going on here?

It's a percentage. Looks like 20 or 21%.
The speedo reading is 20 to 21% higher than actual speed.

40 - 20% = 32
50 - 20% = 40
60 - 20% = 48
70 - 20% = 56

70 - 21% = 55.3

70 - 22% = 54.6

If you really want to get nutz use the mean tire diameter (minus 40% of maximum) for the most accurate measurements.

[w2amr]

It's a percentage. Looks like 20 or 21%.
The speedo reading is 20 to 21% higher than actual speed.

40 - 20% = 32
50 - 20% = 40
60 - 20% = 48
70 - 20% = 56

70 - 21% = 55.3

70 - 22% = 54.6


Oh I get it now. Tnx Bill.