Please fix adding image/video.

[kb2vxa]

As the title says, please fix adding images and videos, adding images has gotten worse, now even trolling the slime ball is oozing toward not worth jumping through even more hoops. Honestly, it looks like the practice is being actively discouraged. Now the "select files" button at the bottom of the "insert image" box is blacked out. Clicking on it produces a drop down box about allowing Adobe Flash to run on this site, unless I click on "allow" the button remains blacked out. That is now in addition to having to jump through the edit hoop, so let's see what happens now when trying to post a video......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJkwYh1vfk

Well, that worked, now you can watch The Daily Show rip him a new one. The mindless cat 5 hurricane mouth strikes again, notice the Loony Toons circles altered just enough to avoid a WB copyright infringement.

[KD8TUT]

I cannot duplicate the problem with Firefox. What browser are you using?

[ad4mg]

I cannot duplicate the problem with Firefox. What browser are you using?

FWIW... I haven't experienced the double image posting issue, but I can only use the basic uploader for images. It seems to require Flash for the advanced uploader, a good reason to just use the basic one. Browser is FF Quantum 69 64 bit / OS is Mint Mate 18.3.

[KG4CGC]

I'm using FF, don't know the version. It updates on its own.

Test image.

16502

Still had to do it twice.

[kb2vxa]

"I cannot duplicate the problem with Firefox. What browser are you using?"
Firefox, same as Charles updated automatically. No not Charles, Firefox!

"I haven't experienced the double image posting issue, but I can only use the basic uploader for images."
Interesting, it's not a double image issue, it's a having to edit and post again issue.
"It seems to require Flash for the advanced uploader, a good reason to just use the basic one."
Maybe for you, but I'm having to click on the "allow Flash" drop down, post (image fails), edit and post again, both with the basic uploader.
"Browser is FF Quantum 69 64 bit"
Once Mozilla got it together after the Quantum update fiasco that wrecked Firefox, the one that followed changed it to Quantum (32 or 64 by user's choice) for everyone. The latest update a few days ago added an anti-tracking feature. FYI, I searched all over hell's creation and couldn't find a way to find out what the latest version is, it seems only the developers know.

16509

Working at the airport is more fun than taking it from the British...

16510

But it's a LOT more fun living here!

[KD8TUT]

I do not have flash installed... everything works.

[koØm]

I don't understand why it is so hard for you guys, I'm using the latest Google version.

16518

In the tool bar, I clicked on "Insert Image", used the basic uploader and inserted a picture, no dupe or issues

Next, I will insert a YouTube video


Find a video from YouTube, "Share" for the video url.
Come to the message you are posting
type "[video=youtube;https://youtu.be/kaeRUn1KthA] But delete the https url up to the slash.
You now have "[video=youtube;kaeRUn1KthA]"
To that add the url "[video=youtube;kaeRUn1KthA]https://youtu.be/kaeRUn1KthA"
Close the bracket video=youtube;kaeRUn1KthA]https://youtu.be/kaeRUn1KthA[/video



https://youtu.be/kaeRUn1KthA

In step six, I had to remove the brackets to keep it from displaying before I completed my little explanation.

In conclusion, I have added a picture without jumping through hoops to remove an unwanted image and, for those who don't know the easy way, I hope that you can follow my steps to adding YouTube videos.

[KG4CGC]

Test video using click on the icon method:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTQCNntGEs


[edit] video works ok here.

[WØTKX]

Flash is not so flashy, tried that, basic uploader fixed it.

For images from my PC's.

Latest Chrome and FF, same same.


https://youtu.be/jLeOtRf6_1g

No dead wabbit(s), yet.

[kb2vxa]

"I do not have flash installed... everything works."
That's the screwy part that was the last to happen and only recently. Maybe that web software feature detects Shockwave Flash and wants to use it, and blacks out the button unless I allow it. I have no idea why, swf is an Adobe Flash file format used for multimedia, vector graphics and ActionScript. Originating with FutureWave Software, then transferred to Macromedia, and then coming under the control of Adobe, swf files can contain animations or applets of varying degrees of interactivity and function. They may also occur in programs, commonly browser games, using ActionScript. So what does this have to do with jpg and other image formats? Browser games, so now it's playing games with my browser? (;->)

"In the tool bar, I clicked on "Insert Image", used the basic uploader and inserted a picture, no dupe or issues."
You're one of those who has no issues with it while several of us do. Naturally that raises the question why are some "sick" while others are immune? To quote the king of Siam in The King And I, "This gets curiouser and curiouser."
Since you're not the only one not having the problem and thus don't understand it, for those of you I shall illustrate it, the one picture worth a thousand words thing.

16522

Once I get past the blacked out button on the simple uploader and think I'm uploading a picture this is what happens. What follows is what happens when I edit and repost the image.

16523

This is a good reason not to get too close to an erupting volcano. If I simply edited and reposted without text in between the attach=config stuff would be at the lower left corner of the image. Notice how each image normally gets numbered sequentially, the first one that didn't "take" is 16552 while the one that did is 16523. As you say there are no dupes, the issue is images fail to display, we get text instead unless we edit, delete the text, and re-post the image.

I hope you guys get it this time, I'm tired of repeating myself and won't say it again. Best yet, I hope the boffins behind the scenes find out what's causing these problems and why they're being selective about it. Please find the gremlin and fix it before I go bugs. Incidentally, I have no trouble inserting video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Ma3M_C-hY

[kb2vxa]

Eh, I like the original WB What's Opera Doc cartoon better than any mashup, unfortunately there isn't a decent copy on Yoo Boob Toob.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw8RVr13dwc

[KD8TUT]

The flash uploader is no longer running on the site.

[WØTKX]

Yup. Noticed that, I did.

[WZ7U]

Flash! bum bum bum bum A Aaa Savior of the universe ♪ ♫ ♪ ♪

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kCCLwEga8

[KD8TUT]

Yup. Noticed that, I did.

There's not really a good reason to keep the flash uploader. It's fairly insecure and when people have browser problems it gets hinky.

[WØTKX]

Yes, yes it does. Flash just sucks, and Adobe doesn't keep up.
Webmasters of the known universe; freaking get rid of it already!

From 2015, FFS.

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/adobe-flash-player-die/

[WZ7U]

Flash! bum bum bum bum A Aaa Savior of the universe ♪ ♫ ♪ ♪

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kCCLwEga8

I inserted the YouTube link as a copy/paste. Usually it displays with a picture instead of just a link. Hope this data point is helpful.

[KD8TUT]

Yes, yes it does. Flash just sucks, and Adobe doesn't keep up.
Webmasters of the known universe; freaking get rid of it already!

From 2015, FFS.

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/adobe-flash-player-die/

We've got another major full version update to do. When it happens we'll be "modern". That one will be trickier than the last tricky one.

But you know me... I like the hard stuff.

[ad4mg]

I hope you guys get it this time, I'm tired of repeating myself and won't say it again. Best yet, I hope the boffins behind the scenes find out what's causing these problems and why they're being selective about it. Please find the gremlin and fix it before I go bugs. Incidentally, I have no trouble inserting video.

A bold statement considering this site is financed by members (which, in reality, is mostly me), and is free for any interested and qualifying amateur radio operator. Perhaps a pay to play site, or one flooded with advertisements would suit you better? That could possibly make the 'service' faster and less selective. Or not.

At any rate, your comment is not appreciated.

ETA: A glaring omission on my part for which I apologize... the supporting staff here is totally volunteer. Given the vast IT experience we have on board, it's quite remarkable.

[KD8TUT]

A bold statement considering this site is financed by members (which, in reality, is mostly me), and is free for any interested and qualifying amateur radio operator. Perhaps a pay to play site, or one flooded with advertisements would suit you better? That could possibly make the 'service' faster and less selective. Or not.

At any rate, your comment is not appreciated.

Actually- it might be a problem with his browser. But I'm not wading into customer service.

[ad4mg]

Actually- it might be a problem with his browser. But I'm not wading into customer service.

Yep... millions of possible configurations, thousands of 'add-ons'... what could possibly go wrong? :icon_smile:

[WZ7U]

We've got another major full version update to do. When it happens we'll be "modern". That one will be trickier than the last tricky one.

But you know me... I like the hard stuff.

Is this where we finally get vilified? :icon_wink:

[WZ7U]

A bold statement considering this site is financed by members (which, in reality, is mostly me), and is free for any interested and qualifying amateur radio operator.

It's been a while since I told you how much I appreciate your efforts in this arena Luke.
So,

Thank You Luke!!!
I appreciate it very much man. Please keep up the great support we all undoubtedly appreciate very much.

ETA: At least those of us with a shred of humility and humbled spirit.

[KD8TUT]

Is this where we finally get vilified? :icon_wink:

I didn't see that on the goal sheet.... but ok :P

[ad4mg]

16529

Image posting seems fine now without Flash...

[KG4CGC]

Test image:

16530

[edit] no double back restack edit this time.
THANKS!

[KG4CGC]

And, it's back to its old tricks today.

[KD8TUT]

And, it's back to its old tricks today.16533

[KD8TUT]

1653316534

[KD8TUT]

Works here.

[WZ7U]

16535

Here's a data point -

Installed from my assortment of images; no issues, went right up first time.

[WZ7U]

16536

Second data point -

Uploaded fresh from images I have locally. phD goat. Went right in.

[WZ7U]

16537

Third and last data point -

Found a random picture from a web search and grabbed its url and put it right in. Search term - Ham Radio. At least she is cute....
Partially interesting sub data point - I've never put an image url in and forced it upstream before. First time for everything, huh?

For what its worth, all seems fine from CN86jc.

This was a test of the WZ7U radio alert system. Had this been an actual alert, odds are I would be buried under all the rubble and no amount of wishing it weren't so won't help.

[WZ7U]

16538I'm back out!

Even a moving gif of an appropriate size seems to work. All is well on the western front.

[KG4CGC]

16539

[KG4CGC]

Mine says Attachment 16539 (https://forums.hamisland.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16539) and it's lit up like a link.

[WZ7U]

Charles, when I click your attachment link, I get "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

Which I did.
(https://forums.hamisland.net/sendmessage.php)

[KG4CGC]

Luke, I noticed you're removing the extra attachments. Thank you. I'll start doing it myself when I post.
Question: How does it look on your end? Are you seeing two attachments or text stating an attachment plus actual attachment?

[ad4mg]

Luke, I noticed you're removing the extra attachments. Thank you. I'll start doing it myself when I post.
Question: How does it look on your end? Are you seeing two attachments or text stating an attachment plus actual attachment?

I'm seeing a text reference to an image, then an actual image. I've been viewing the posts in source mode, and I think it's an issue with the file counter that assigns an attachment number to an attachment. The text reference never points to a valid image, and is always one less than the actual image number that displays.

[ad4mg]

I've had issues with the display not ignoring the tags within a set of code tags, but gonna try this again.

In Charles' post here: https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/31296-HBD-Dan-mw0uzo?p=670252&viewfull=1#post670252
(https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/31296-HBD-Dan-mw0uzo?p=670252&viewfull=1#post670252), both the text reference to the invalid image, and the image are displayed.

When viewed in source mode, the post appears like this:


{ATTACH=CONFIG}16531{/ATTACH}{ATTACH=CONFIG}16532{/ATTACH}

Note that I had to use this bracketing: {........} in the code window to keep it from displaying the image instead of the usual square brackets. Apparently, tags, even within a code window, are still acted on.

In this example, attachment 16531 is not a valid. An error message is displayed:
16657

Image 16532 is the one being displayed.

I can never recreate the error, but I'm running Linux (Ubuntu, Mint, Bodhi) most of the time. The SWF add-on is configured to ask 1st before activating (in Firefox).

BTW, to view a post in source mode, click on the top, left-most button in your editor:
16659
I think this only works on your own posts. You would have to quote someone else's post to see it in an editor. We can edit any post, but as a rule, we usually don't unless its to correct an error.

And, finally, I had no problems posting either of the two images above. (Ubuntu 18.04.3 / Firefox 70.0.1)

[kb2vxa]

For Luke and the confused (;->) perhaps this will help. I'm using Firefox with SWF disabled, never mind which browser, the point is there is no SWF. If I were to simply post with an attachment only the invalid image number appears. If I then click on edit and again add the image it appears with the invalid number to the left. If I delete the number in edit and add the image, of course it appears without the invalid number.

Here's the reason why now none of my image attachments have a number to the left. Because first I post without an image, THEN click on edit and add the image, no invalid number appears, only the image. Please bear in mind all is done without SWF.

[WØTKX]

Hokay, workaround figgered out.

[KG4CGC]

The Island needs more bamboo.

16667

[WZ7U]

Especially to zip tie 12ga wire to for antennas

[KG4CGC]

Bamboo knows CW

[kb2vxa]

Forget the workaround, there are bigger fish to fry here since something went wrong with the board software upgrade and extensive rework. The nagging question that needs an answer is "Why does a straightforward post produce an incorrect image nymber while an edit produces the correct one?" The answer to that question will produce a solution to the problem, and I believe our admins know this. There is obviously a difference between then and now hiding in there somewhere in ST IV The Undiscovered Country.

[KD8TUT]

Forget the workaround, there are bigger fish to fry here since something went wrong with the board software upgrade and extensive rework. The nagging question that needs an answer is "Why does a straightforward post produce an incorrect image nymber while an edit produces the correct one?" The answer to that question will produce a solution to the problem, and I believe our admins know this. There is obviously a difference between then and now hiding in there somewhere in ST IV The Undiscovered Country.

Maybe we just like watching you complain. :P

We've got another major upgrade to go through before the end of the year. I'm not doing anything that's not related to security before that is finished.

[kb2vxa]

Complain about what? Not this time, my complaints are in the politics forum. I'm patient, I have no problem waiting for any changes, maybe the next upgrade will fix what the last one mucked up. Praise where praise is due, I have great respect and admiration for the admins who keep this site up and running, more because you communicate where others don't.

[KD8TUT]

Complain about what? Not this time, my complaints are in the politics forum. I'm patient, I have no problem waiting for any changes, maybe the next upgrade will fix what the last one mucked up. Praise where praise is due, I have great respect and admiration for the admins who keep this site up and running, more because you communicate where others don't.

Yup. It's another big upgrade. This has been a long process of getting "up to date" across the board. So the next step is more complicated than the last.

It's not something I can't handle... but with the new job I have to be careful enough time is set aside to do it.

[kb2vxa]

Since the next step will be more complicated than the last it looks like you have your work cut out for you. Setting enough time aside shouldn't be a problem, thinking about it is always worse than doing it. I know, that's how it goes in my little world, thinking back when it's over I wonder why I thought it was such a big deal. Not so long ago I went through a hell of my own creation upgrading Minya, the name I gave this the son of Godzilla computer, he's a beast like his deceased father that gave life to him just like in the Japanese rubber kaiju (giant monsters) movies I'm so fond of. If I planned it all out thoroughly before launching the project everything would have gone smoothly in a couple of days, not the month and a half of chaos it was.

Like Obiwan's spirit said to Luke use the Force and all went well I suppose my spirit can say nobody cares if you're totally naked, toss the rubber hose and stuffed animal. Use The Fluid of Spock, Mike, use The Fluid of Spock.

BTW I still have those three songs you published in my music archives and there they shall remain.

[KG4CGC]

Smell my finger.

[WØTKX]

https://i.giphy.com/media/jSEfXNG6G5lpNRLhpH/source.mp4

[KG4CGC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvEA4ZQBAoI

[kb2vxa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ejuQw0Zm8

Naturally I'm the one to think of THIS mess. Have a merry finger smelling finger pulling Christmas and a happy New Year, happier still come November, we hope.

[KG4CGC]

Who would have known what was heading down the pike when here we were worrying about posting pictures?

[WZ7U]

Werd