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n6hcm
08-20-2018, 01:34 AM
I've only ever used yaesu gear and it seems to do the trick. I haven't really dug further into the other two big brands but I know that many prefer one or the other for reasons that have never been clear to me.

So... Why do people choose one of the big three over the other?

N8YX
08-20-2018, 09:10 AM
Are we talking overall, or point-in-time?

A couple of point-in-time comparos...the FT-101 series offered more features then its contemporary, the TS-520S. Fast forward a decade or so and you'll find the TS-940S one-upping the FT-980, though the latter is STILL my favorite HF rig - even taking into account present-day company.

One setup I would have a hard time parting with is the IC-751A/R-71A/IC-2KL/AT-500, even though both radio's AM audio recovery is less than stellar - and the line lacks a station monitor/panadapter accessory.

n6hcm
08-20-2018, 02:38 PM
overall. at the moment. what makes someone buy kenwood instead of icom?

i'm thinking there must be some super-consistent sort of thing (like User Interface--I know that there are folks who don't like Yaesu's menu-driven approach, so they choose one of the others. Or they say one of the others somehow gets out beteter, ...

PA5COR
08-20-2018, 02:56 PM
Most my stuff in the 40 years was Yaesu, though i had the TS 430 line from Kenwood, and some Icom stuff for 2/70.
I wasn't interested in HF for a long time, Yaesu FT 221 R and FT 225 RD with some modifications were the dogs dangles then, add 70 cm and 23 cm transverters homebrew.
Then i got the FT 847 with Collins filters for HF and 2/70 and that worked for 15 years or so till i ran into the FT 2000-D second hand.
That one fills the needs i got till now, the FT 847 is for back up, and the FT 100 mobile transceiver is used on 2/70 locally and as FM radio, pity i put in the Xtal am filter some years back when it was used on HF.

Handhelds Wouxun UDVP 1, Kenwood TH7 E Icon Q7E, all with speaker phones.
Heathkit SB-1000 new 3-500 ZG tube and fully restored.
Add MFJ autotuners ( 993 and 998 legal limit) homebrew p.s 13.8 volt 50 and 80 amps.
Assorted other stuff diamond swr.power meters, CN 801 HP etc etc etc, lots of homebrew stuff.
So a mish mash of stuff...;)

WZ7U
08-20-2018, 03:11 PM
I've always heard Kenwood talked up over superior audio, but not sure if it was meant as superior transmit or receive. Yaesu has always seemed to me to be a good brand as well, good as any other.

My problem is the first HF I bought was a used Icom 751A and then a new 706llg way back in the 20th century. So I really only have a majority of personal experience with Icom and for the most part I'm happy; probably because I don't know any better.

Guys are talking up the Flex brand. I see the appeal, but I guess I like radios that are traditional. Not that I wouldn't try and run one if given the chance. Hope they work as good as flex seal.....

I would like to broaden my horizons with a hybrid Yaesu or a Kenwood of some vintage at some point, but I gotta wait for the career changes to kick in before I can justify shelving a perfectly good radio right now. Maybe when I get rich :lol: :rotflol: :spin: I can try out the quasi SDR offerings from the big 3 that are coming out lately.

KG4CGC
08-20-2018, 06:32 PM
If the receive audio is pleasing to my ears, then I'm good. With that I will say that Kenwood is awesome. Yaesu has excellent receive but when I tune up the Ten Tec the only thing I hear is amateur transmissions.
Antenna variables notwithstanding.
No experience with Icom on HF.

n6hcm
08-22-2018, 11:42 PM
So what I hear so far is, to a point, it's like religion... You do something early on that seems to suit you, and eventually it kinda does. And... Sometimes you augment things with equipment from other faiths (see COR)... because not everyone is orthodox. :)

WZ7U
08-23-2018, 02:10 AM
Yeah. It's like that.

Poor agnostics...

N8YX
08-23-2018, 08:51 AM
I have:

Kenwood
Yaesu
Icom
Cubic
Drake
Heathkit
Ten-Tec
Uniden/Tempo

And the assorted CB, scanner, datacomm terminal and general-coverage receiver in the shack. Or out of the shack. It's very hard to say "pick one and that's it!" because all the rigs have their own unique operating characteristics or special feature set.

Conspicuously missing is anything NEW. Until their DSPs work so well that they completely eliminate the S7-S9 worth of wideband white noise that's so prevalent on the lower HF spectrum, I'll stick with my analog and early synthesized dinosaurs.