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N8YX
03-21-2017, 11:56 AM
Or, "How life got behind me in an instant".

Many of us have a diverse set of hobbies and pursuits apart from amateur radio and electronics in general. For as long as I can remember I've been involved with making things. Metal and woodworking, welding...creating from raw materials. Before I got involved with radio communications on a whole-scale basis, most of my leisure time was spent crafting fine-scale models. The lion's share of these were railroad oriented. Rolling stock, structures...one needs tools to build this stuff.

One of the favorites of the 70s era was a Dremel "Moto Shop". This saw and accompanying accessories were also sold under the Montgomery Wards "Powr-Kraft" and Sears trademarks.

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My mother got the Ward's version of the saw for me for my 14th Christmas. The (coincidental) birthday present was the accessory kit - flexible shaft, extra blades, grinding and sanding points, a buffing wheel. The kit was back-ordered from Wards' warehouse and literally took three months to finally arrive at my doorstep. Every day I'd run home from school and check the front porch to see if the postman had dropped it off. It was around this time of year that the long-anticipated package finally showed up. I could finally get to work.

A lot of models were made with the help of that Moto-Shop. When I began playing with electronics, the outfit got pressed into making the odd component, cutting and finishing PCBs...it even saw duty doing some motorcycle-repair activities.

Alas, "commercial duty" it isn't. Eventually, the coupler on the flexible shaft broke and the sanding arbor froze itself to the PTO, rendering the saw useless as anything but a saw. When its motor finally gave out - around the time I began to reconfigure my workshop in the late 2000s - the saw was thrown away. The remaining bits, points, collets and other useful items were kept and stored with my newer Moto Tools, of which a decent collection had been acquired.

'DSG's father passed away in 2011 and I "inherited" his Powr-Kraft saw along with a lot of his other power tools. Same as mine but an earlier - possibly a little more robust - model, and in excellent shape. But no related accessories save the sanding arbor and disc were to be found in his old workshop, and Dremel has long since discontinued the kit.

eBay's your buddy, though. In searching for blades for the saw (also discontinued) I came across a Sears-branded accessory kit from an estate sale.

Walking around the house this morning, I spotted a package left on the front porch. As when I received the first kit, I opened it up and took careful inventory of the parts. And like the first, none of the various drums, discs, bits and points have ever been used.

40 years passed in the blink of an eye. Or so it would seem.

Maybe this is why we like our old radios, cars and similar items: They take us back.

WØTKX
03-21-2017, 02:59 PM
I occasionally see Erector sets in great condition on eBay. :yes:

AA1OH
03-21-2017, 04:07 PM
I have seen that old cars/electronics/radio/clocks and cameras seem to follow the same orbits.

n0km
03-21-2017, 06:35 PM
I want a 3D printer that can replicate a 3D printer......

KG4CGC
03-21-2017, 07:04 PM
I want a 3D printer that can replicate a 3D printer......

What you want is nanobots.

KG4NEL
03-21-2017, 07:06 PM
I don't know if there's anything from that time period that would do that for me - I have a few things I built from that time period in my life that I'd like to hang on to, but the tools didn't hold any value on their own for me.

I grew up past the era of classic tube rigs, so I appreciate the design of them, but they hold no personal nostalgia.

NQ6U
03-21-2017, 07:48 PM
Drake 4-line radios were like that for me. When I finally got a set of twins, though, I found them less compelling that I'd remembered. I did sell them at a significant profit, at least.

KC2UGV
03-21-2017, 08:02 PM
A RatShack 160-in-one kit, in the wooden box would do the same for me...

Ah, building my first transmitter: A spark gap, using the code key, a relay, and a capacitor...

KG4CGC
03-22-2017, 01:21 AM
OK. I think I get it now. Before my time but the Zenith TO does it for me. 1952 through 1956 manufacture years. Cut my teeth on one at age 3. Last time I used one was for the magnetic phono preamp with a guitar plugged into it. Couldn't really get the tube hot enough and it made a continual phaser effect. That's the guitar phaser effect not the SciFi ray gun sound.

The Hammarlund SP600-J.

P-Box kits.

60s and 70s era pocket radios.

The smell of hot solder and rosin.

n2ize
03-22-2017, 03:46 PM
I guess you could say I'm a bit of a vintage/antique collector. Lot of old radio equipment from the 40's, 50's, 60's (mostly transmitters). Most are older than me but I kind of like using things that have been around as long or longer than I. I have my collection of old pocket watches, various assorted antique appliances. Last old add on was an antique pencil sharpener dating somewhere back from around 1910-1920. Since I use pencils a lot it is pretty handy to have on the desk here and it's cast iron and metal covered in patina adds a nice touch in addition to its functionality, Pencils and the way we sharpen them hasn't changed much in over 100 years. I guess what I am saying is that I like antique and vintage stuff but I also like it to be functional. So most of he old things I have collected are in working order and are put into regular use.

N8YX
03-22-2017, 04:27 PM
One thing I might add here: As I grew older (and hopefully wiser) over the years, I began to understand the difference between hobby grade and commercial use tools. Much as Carl notes that the Drake "reputation" may not be the same as the Drake "experience", but I'm still appreciative of the capabilities of a full 7-line setup.

When I finally wear my last Moto-Tool out it'll be replaced by a Foredom unit. That's another name I remember from back in the day and I'm happy to see them still in business. Pricy little units, though!

WØTKX
03-22-2017, 05:32 PM
OK. I think I get it now. Before my time but the Zenith TO does it for me. 1952 through 1956 manufacture years. Cut my teeth on one at age 3. Last time I used one was for the magnetic phono preamp with a guitar plugged into it. Couldn't really get the tube hot enough and it made a continual phaser effect. That's the guitar phaser effect not the SciFi ray gun sound.

The Hammarlund SP600-J.

P-Box kits.

60s and 70s era pocket radios.

The smell of hot solder and rosin.

Once again, you're my brudda from anadda mudda. :mrgreen:

KG4CGC
03-23-2017, 12:49 PM
Once again, you're my brudda from anadda mudda. :mrgreen:

I was the one that the times said was hyperactive and needed strict and angry discipline. The people of the times were wrong.

W3WN
03-23-2017, 12:57 PM
I was the one that the times said was hyperactive and needed strict and angry discipline. The people of the Times were wrong.
Well, the heck with the Times then. What did the people of the NY Post say?

KG4CGC
03-23-2017, 07:00 PM
Well, the heck with the Times then. What did the people of the NY Post say?

In their best Wayne Brady voice?

W3WN
03-24-2017, 07:47 AM
Who's Wayne Brady? Let's not make a big deal out of this.

KG4CGC
03-24-2017, 11:16 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/Z-WayneBrady2015_zpstpfg3dbi.jpg

NA4BH
03-24-2017, 11:29 PM
Who's Wayne Brady? Let's not make a big deal out of this.

I've been on the show, it actually sucks to be there.

W3WN
04-01-2017, 08:29 PM
BTW Fred. I hope you don't mind, but you just made the top article on Page 8 of my club newsletter.

Of course, that means I'll have to explain who DSG is... that's about the only edit I'll need to make!

KG4CGC
04-01-2017, 10:14 PM
I've been on the show, it actually sucks to be there.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LetsMakeADealCBS

WHICH EPISODE! I WANNA SEE IT!

n2ize
04-10-2017, 11:12 AM
One thing I might add here: As I grew older (and hopefully wiser) over the years, I began to understand the difference between hobby grade and commercial use tools. Much as Carl notes that the Drake "reputation" may not be the same as the Drake "experience", but I'm still appreciative of the capabilities of a full 7-line setup.

When I finally wear my last Moto-Tool out it'll be replaced by a Foredom unit. That's another name I remember from back in the day and I'm happy to see them still in business. Pricy little units, though!

And with some things there is also a difference between"hobby grade"and"toy grade".For example in the model aircraft hobby there are "hobby grade" model aircraft which are deigned to be repaired,modified,robust features, high performance, quality parts, etc.

"Toy grade" on the other hand is cheaply made, far less robust, often cannot be easily fixed, lack availability of spare parts, and have low overall performance. In short they are designed to marginally operate for a while then be tossed when anything on them breaks.Problem is that many beginners don't know the difference. They buy toy grade because it's cheaper but quickly get discouraged and leave the sport altogether.

True in music too. Like the difference between a cheap VSO (Violin Shaped Object) versus a
a quality violin. Many people who start with a VSO because it's cheap end up discouraged and dropping out of music