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w0aew
05-20-2015, 02:41 PM
When my old Acer 3620 laptop disk drive started acting squirrely, I wiped the drive and used a live disc of Puppy to keep a'going. I downloaded the pets for fldigi yet they fail to execute.

What would be a good next step?

K0RGR
05-20-2015, 04:56 PM
I'm not familiar with Puppy but did you try running it with administrator/root privileges?

w0aew
05-21-2015, 08:49 AM
I'm not familiar with Puppy but did you try running it with administrator/root privileges?

The file has rwx, r-x, r-x, --- permissions. I don't know what my permissions are (I'm a noob with linux) or how I'd find out, actually.

W3WN
05-22-2015, 08:09 AM
Thanks for the reminders... I have to get a CD of Puppy Linux made to run on some older laptops.

ad4mg
05-22-2015, 03:29 PM
The file has rwx, r-x, r-x, --- permissions. I don't know what my permissions are (I'm a noob with linux) or how I'd find out, actually.Those permissions would indicate 'read' + 'write' + 'execute', ie, full permissions for the owner (the first set of values)
The group who 'owns' the file (often the same as the owner) has 'read' only and execute permissions.
The last set of values is 'others', and they also have 'read' only and 'execute' permissions.

I agree that you likely need to install this app with root/administrator privileges. In Debian linux distributions (Ubuntu, Mint, Debian) this is done by preceeding the command with: "sudo <executable> at the commend prompt. The application won't be able to install files in directories above /home/user without being run with elevated privileges.

I had this same issue installing jnos on an Ubuntu machine. Root/Administrator privileges did the trick.

w0aew
05-22-2015, 04:34 PM
Those permissions would indicate 'read' + 'write' + 'execute', ie, full permissions for the owner (the first set of values)
The group who 'owns' the file (often the same as the owner) has 'read' only and execute permissions.
The last set of values is 'others', and they also have 'read' only and 'execute' permissions.

I agree that you likely need to install this app with root/administrator privileges. In Debian linux distributions (Ubuntu, Mint, Debian) this is done by preceeding the command with: "sudo <executable> at the commend prompt. The application won't be able to install files in directories above /home/user without being run with elevated privileges.

I had this same issue installing jnos on an Ubuntu machine. Root/Administrator privileges did the trick.

Now I'll show you what a noob I am at this. Puppy linux is a windows-oriented OS but it does have something called RoxTERM, the only "command line" interface I've found so far. So, when I typed "sudo ~/my-applications/bin/fldigi" it says "sudo: command not found".

ad4mg
05-23-2015, 03:34 AM
Now I'll show you what a noob I am at this. Puppy linux is a windows-oriented OS but it does have something called RoxTERM, the only "command line" interface I've found so far. So, when I typed "sudo ~/my-applications/bin/fldigi" it says "sudo: command not found".

It seems Puppy Linux runs in the root account by default. Odd. I did find these installation instructions written by the fellow who wrote fldigi:

http://www.w1hkj.com/flpuppy.html
(http://www.w1hkj.com/flpuppy.html)

If that doesn't work, I'll install Puppy Linux in a virtual machine (VirtualBox) this weekend and have a go at it.

w0aew
05-23-2015, 07:06 AM
It seems Puppy Linux runs in the root account by default. Odd. I did find these installation instructions written by the fellow who wrote fldigi:

http://www.w1hkj.com/flpuppy.html
(http://www.w1hkj.com/flpuppy.html)

If that doesn't work, I'll install Puppy Linux in a virtual machine (VirtualBox) this weekend and have a go at it.

Yes, those are the instructions I followed, and the "pets" I installed.

ad4mg
05-24-2015, 05:35 PM
Well, Art, I installed Puppy Linux 5.7.1 on a 4 GB USB stick. I made a bootable, live CD with Puppy Linux 5.7.1, booted the machine with it, inserted an empty USB drive, and ran the universal installer. Restarted using the USB stick, all went well.

I then downloaded each of the indicated files, saving them in the 'Download' directory. I executed them in the order W1HKJ had on his web page, and it installed flawlessly. In each case, I used the file browser (Rox) to run the install files. The shortcuts were placed (by the installers) in the 'Network' menu group. I went there, clicked the 'fldigi' file, and it ran perfectly:

13946

My thoughts?

1. You're using an earlier version of Puppy Linux than suggested on W1HKJ's web page. May be an issue with the older libraries.

2. You're not running as root. To check, open a terminal window (Console), type 'whoami' (without the quotes), and hit enter. It should say 'root'. If it doesn't, you can switch to root by running: su root in the console. Repeat the 'whoami' command afterwares to confirm.

3. Did you actually save disk space for your files and stuff during the installation? I noted that since Puppy Linux is designed to be run on a USB thumb drive, you must indicate how much space is reserved for the session configuration and any files you wish to save.

Let me know if any of these suggestions work!

WØTKX
05-24-2015, 07:57 PM
Kewl.

Used fldigi a few years ago with my Pegasus and N4PY software. Then, I spent a few years running Ham Radio Deluxe (free).

I've been using fldigi again for over three years, because it works so well with my Flex 3000, and I prefer the logging.

That's when I started using MultiPSK as well, for the weirder modes and Utility DXing.

Another cool thing (of course) is fldigi works on "nix" and Winders.

NQ6U
05-24-2015, 08:27 PM
It's fun messing with that sort of stuff. I'm currently playing with a Raspberry Pi, trying to see if I can get it to work as a PSK machine.

w0aew
05-25-2015, 09:27 AM
Well, Art, I installed Puppy Linux 5.7.1 on a 4 GB USB stick. I made a bootable, live CD with Puppy Linux 5.7.1, booted the machine with it, inserted an empty USB drive, and ran the universal installer. Restarted using the USB stick, all went well.

I then downloaded each of the indicated files, saving them in the 'Download' directory. I executed them in the order W1HKJ had on his web page, and it installed flawlessly. In each case, I used the file browser (Rox) to run the install files. The shortcuts were placed (by the installers) in the 'Network' menu group. I went there, clicked the 'fldigi' file, and it ran perfectly:

13946

My thoughts?

1. You're using an earlier version of Puppy Linux than suggested on W1HKJ's web page. May be an issue with the older libraries.

2. You're not running as root. To check, open a terminal window (Console), type 'whoami' (without the quotes), and hit enter. It should say 'root'. If it doesn't, you can switch to root by running: su root in the console. Repeat the 'whoami' command afterwares to confirm.

3. Did you actually save disk space for your files and stuff during the installation? I noted that since Puppy Linux is designed to be run on a USB thumb drive, you must indicate how much space is reserved for the session configuration and any files you wish to save.

Let me know if any of these suggestions work!


Well, I burned a copy of Puppy 5.2.8 on another CD, determined from 'whoami' that I was running from root, downloaded the pets, and made sure I have enough disk space for everything. Still the same results. From reading online, others have encountered this problem and went thru all kinds of contortions with differing results. When I try to run fldigi from the rox terminal, it says that "libjpeg.so.8" is missing. I found a source for this library in rpm format. I downloaded an "unrpm" file to unpack it but it doesn't seem to recognize this particular rpm file.

It could be this ten-year-old laptop. I think I'll just put this all aside for now. I used a lot of digital modes with fldigi and other software over the years but still prefer just regular ol' cw with a bug. Mainly, I just needed to have a computer keyboard for e-mail since I struggle "typing" with a tablet's so-called touch-screen "keyboard."

I sure appreciate the help!

ad4mg
05-25-2015, 03:45 PM
Well, I burned a copy of Puppy 5.2.8 on another CD, determined from 'whoami' that I was running from root, downloaded the pets, and made sure I have enough disk space for everything. Still the same results. From reading online, others have encountered this problem and went thru all kinds of contortions with differing results. When I try to run fldigi from the rox terminal, it says that "libjpeg.so.8" is missing. I found a source for this library in rpm format. I downloaded an "unrpm" file to unpack it but it doesn't seem to recognize this particular rpm file.

It could be this ten-year-old laptop. I think I'll just put this all aside for now. I used a lot of digital modes with fldigi and other software over the years but still prefer just regular ol' cw with a bug. Mainly, I just needed to have a computer keyboard for e-mail since I struggle "typing" with a tablet's so-called touch-screen "keyboard."

I sure appreciate the help!

Art,

Would you be interested in that USB stick I did the installation on? If that laptop will boot from a USB thumb drive, you'd be all set to go. Let me know, I'll be glad to mail it to you!

WØTKX
05-25-2015, 04:58 PM
Perfect.

Luke, what if you made a .ISO of the OS with fldigi and made it available for him to download?

:dunno:

w0aew
05-26-2015, 06:52 AM
Art,

Would you be interested in that USB stick I did the installation on? If that laptop will boot from a USB thumb drive, you'd be all set to go. Let me know, I'll be glad to mail it to you!

Thank you but no need. I was more curious than earnest. Just wondered if I'd overlooked anything glaringly obvious.