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Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, openly declared himself as gay yesterday, saying "While I have never denied my sexuality, I haven’t publicly acknowledged it either, until now. So let me be clear: I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."
Full article here. (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-30/tim-cook-im-proud-to-be-gay)
Generally the take on it around here is meh. Good for him. It's not a big deal anymore. We accept this as normal.
meh.
It will be nice when something like this is not a story.
Cook talked a lot about privacy in his decision not to come out earlier. On the other hand, activists say that someone like him should come out to encourage others not to be afraid.
I get both arguments, really. In certain parts of the country and in certain businesses, coming out is no big deal. I seriously doubt that Cook even being closeted gay in say, the oil industry, he would have gotten as far as he has. Being accepted as a corporate club member is ok if you're gay or a woman in tech, but not in a lot of other industries.
OTOH, it would be nice if a person could bring their sig O to a social function and not have that be a big deal. Someone like Cook coming out helps lower the "stigma" of being gay for the everyday person.
The stigma thing is not just the hard core haters. Most people in my and Carl's generation grew up with the concept that being gay was different and to be either feared or shunned, even in the Bay Area. It takes a while for that kind of voodoo to filter out of a society's consciousness.
Generally the take on it around here is mehWhen's my new iPhone shipping, Slick?
Fixed, for the fanbois and girls amongst us.
It will be nice when something like this is not a story.
That was more or less my reaction as well.
That was more or less my reaction as well.
It wasn't a big deal in the NYC Metro Area.
Fixed, for the fanbois and girls amongst us.
:lol:
Pretty much on target. Most were saying it was more important to them that Apple fix their iOS and drop the price of the i6.
KC2UGV
10-31-2014, 10:04 AM
I wonder if the Westboro will stop using the iPhone now lulz...
I wonder if the Westboro will stop using the iPhone now lulz...
I think they're still using two cans and a string.
I wonder if the Westboro will stop using the iPhone now lulz...
A real-life "divide-by-zero" case, eh? :lol:
KK4AMI
10-31-2014, 10:27 AM
I always assumed all admitted Apple Users were coming out of the closet anyway. PC forever!
Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, openly declared himself as gay yesterday, saying "While I have never denied my sexuality, I haven’t publicly acknowledged it either, until now. So let me be clear: I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."
Full article here. (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-30/tim-cook-im-proud-to-be-gay)Good for him.
Who cares? I mean, really, why is this even a story anymore?
Good for him.
Who cares? I mean, really, why is this even a story anymore?
Attention whoring?
Maybe.
A persons race, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc etc etc... none of that ought to matter. Do they have the skills and the smarts to do the job? That and only that is or what should be important.
Attention whoring?
No, someone from Forbes contacted him about it after was outed by Simon Hobbs on CNBC.
More here (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2014/06/27/cnbc-host-accidentally-outs-apple-ceo-tim-cook-as-gay-video/).
No, someone from Forbes contacted him about it after was outed by Simon Hobbs on CNBC.
More here (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2014/06/27/cnbc-host-accidentally-outs-apple-ceo-tim-cook-as-gay-video/).
As Ron stated above, shouldn't matter in the least. I work with a number of LBGT staff and nobody cares about anyone else's orientation unless they themselves make an issue of it.
Ergo, my "attention whoring" comments.
Most are far too concerned about meeting deadlines or getting a visit from "...that security bastard!..." to worry about the after-hours pursuits of their colleagues.
I agree—it shouldn't matter in the least. But, at this moment in history it still does. Cook never made an issue of it until he was contacted by Forbes. I don't see it playing out as big news anywhere, more of a casual aside, which is a good thing.
Now, if you want to get into attention whoring, how about the (gay) former CEO of BP, who's publishing a book titled The Glass Closet?
Now, if you want to get into attention whoring, how about the (gay) former CEO of BP, who's publishing a book titled The Glass Closet?
I can think of a number of others in industry who are guilty of it, too.
There's an unfair stigma accompanying the alternative lifestyle crowd in certain regimes: They're automatically assumed to be promiscuous and predatory. In my experience, the career professional seems to be more settled WRT family dynamics than the average schlub on the streets, so this isn't usually an issue. But as with anything else you always have the outliers.
KC2UGV
10-31-2014, 01:06 PM
As Ron stated above, shouldn't matter in the least. I work with a number of LBGT staff and nobody cares about anyone else's orientation unless they themselves make an issue of it.
Ergo, my "attention whoring" comments.
Most are far too concerned about meeting deadlines or getting a visit from "...that security bastard!..." to worry about the after-hours pursuits of their colleagues.
Correct, nobody should care. Sadly, many do, to the point where it's a thing every two years during elections as to whether the GOP candidate hates gays enough to win the primary.
KG4NEL
10-31-2014, 01:20 PM
I always assumed all admitted Apple Users were coming out of the closet anyway. PC forever!
Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
It's only funny until your Windoze box contracts (insert_favorite_weaponized_0_day_exploit_here). Then it's fucking hilarious, unless you're on an organization's Incident Response Team and an owned asset is truly 0wn3d.
KK4AMI
10-31-2014, 01:23 PM
Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
Ok I can switch to Virginia Tech jokes!
KC2UGV
10-31-2014, 01:24 PM
Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
Not really. Especially when I have Mac users coming to me trying to get me to help them get access to HP iLO's on Safari. My only answer: Buy a real computer.
NA4BH
10-31-2014, 01:44 PM
That was more or less my reaction as well.
Mine will be here Monday
Not really. Especially when I have Mac users coming to me trying to get me to help them get access to HP iLO's on Safari. My only answer: Buy a real computer.
A better idea would be to not use a platform-specific server management package in the first place.
KG4NEL
10-31-2014, 02:16 PM
Ok I can switch to Virginia Tech jokes!
That one's easy. It's called the football team.
:shifty::doh:
WØTKX
10-31-2014, 02:43 PM
Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
Take it to Rag Chew II. You gotta know your audience. :irked:
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Is this funny to anyone, anymore?
Only to people who are still stuck in the platform wars of the Nineties.
KG4NEL
10-31-2014, 06:01 PM
Only to people who are still stuck in the platform wars of the Nineties.
I do miss the G4 cube, though.
I do miss the G4 cube, though.
I know someone who still has one of those.
K7SGJ
10-31-2014, 09:01 PM
I never had a problem with my Sinclair 2000 or TI 99-4A with the expansion box. I could program a loop in a heartbeat. Of course, that wasn't the goal, so most my programs usually did end up chasing their tails. The rest pretty much came to a screeching halt after the first several lines.
NA4BH
10-31-2014, 10:32 PM
You said expansion box :bbh:
I wonder if the Samsung CEO will suddenly become gay too.
NA4BH
10-31-2014, 10:55 PM
I wondered why the APPLE stock took an erect climb today.
I wondered why the APPLE stock took an erect climb today.
Yeah. Tim Cook comes out as gay and it earns me a hundred bucks.
NA4BH
10-31-2014, 11:17 PM
Bent one in the doo dah room (if you catch my meaning/if you get my drift) and got me a couple thousand. This stock is up and coming, hold on to your package. Or you'll be nuts.
This should make a good South Park episode.
KC2UGV
11-01-2014, 07:43 AM
A better idea would be to not use a platform-specific server management package in the first place.
It's not platform specific. They work fine with Linux and Windows.
It's not platform specific. They work fine with Linux and Windows.
Does it work with Chrome or Firefox on a Mac? Safari does kind of suck.
KC2UGV
11-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Does it work with Chrome or Firefox on a Mac? Safari does kind of suck.
No. Works on Chrome/FF on Linux, and Chrome/FF/IE/Safari on Winderz.
No. Works on Chrome/FF on Linux, and Chrome/FF/IE/Safari on Winderz.
Weird. I don't understand why a web interface would not work on a Mac, especially since Chrome and Safari both use the same WebKit underpinnings.
ON EDIT: Tell your Mac users to try this: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/hp-ilo-mobile-toolbox/id497560256?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D2
KC2UGV
11-01-2014, 03:59 PM
Weird. I don't understand why a web interface would not work on a Mac, especially since Chrome and Safari both use the same WebKit underpinnings.
ON EDIT: Tell your Mac users to try this: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/hp-ilo-mobile-toolbox/id497560256?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D2
That's cool for the iPad and iPhone, but useless for Macbooks :(
http://tablet-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/southpark_Apple.jpg
WØTKX
11-01-2014, 05:33 PM
Heh heh heh. R. Crumb. :mrgreen:
Heh heh heh. R. Crumb. :mrgreen:
Thread needs moar Cheech Wizard.
Heh heh heh. R. Crumb. :mrgreen:
He drew a character for me:
13313
WØTKX
11-01-2014, 06:08 PM
Cheech Wizard? Hell Yea! He's a strong totem symbol for the IOMH, eh? :evil:
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n6hcm
11-02-2014, 05:14 AM
Janet got it exactly right.
Cook's news isn't really news, though; everyone knew ...
ka8ncr
11-02-2014, 09:58 AM
I wonder if the Samsung CEO will suddenly become gay too.
Okay, this one gets my post of the day award. That was funny.
ka8ncr
11-02-2014, 10:04 AM
Weird. I don't understand why a web interface would not work on a Mac, especially since Chrome and Safari both use the same WebKit underpinnings.
ON EDIT: Tell your Mac users to try this: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/hp-ilo-mobile-toolbox/id497560256?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D2
Could this issue be Apple's recent defuxoring of Java? There needs to be some extra steps in getting JNLP files to actually start.
I have this issue with ALL JNLPs, especially those running on IP KVMs and IPMI ports. It does not break my heart, my non-real computer is still a 6 year old bad ass little Unix workstation on my lap.
Could this issue be Apple's recent defuxoring of Java? There needs to be some extra steps in getting JNLP files to actually start.
I have this issue with ALL JNLPs, especially those running on IP KVMs and IPMI ports. It does not break my heart, my non-real computer is still a 6 year old bad ass little Unix workstation on my lap.
Lots of abbreviations....little understanding....head exploding!
I'm stuck in the 70's!
K7SGJ
11-02-2014, 12:50 PM
Could this issue be Apple's recent defuxoring of Java? There needs to be some extra steps in getting JNLP files to actually start.
I have this issue with ALL JNLPs, especially those running on IP KVMs and IPMI ports. It does not break my heart, my non-real computer is still a 6 year old bad ass little Unix workstation on my lap.
Lots of abbreviations....little understanding....head exploding!
I'm stuck in the 70's!
I'm from the 50s and 60s (and the last part of the 40s) and maybe I can help.
JNLPs--Jukeboxes need LPs (long play vinyl records)
IP Initial Point--An aviation term
KVMs--Kilovolts per Meter Squared (a shocking revelation)
IPMI--I Pissed My Innerwear (incontinent)
I hope that helps.
Defuxoring is 1337-Speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet), the present tense antonym of fuxor, to fuck over, fuck up, break something, etc.
JNLP: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start#Java_Network_Launching_Protocol_.28 JNLP.29) Java Network Launch Protocol.
KVM: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine) Kernel-based Virtual Machine.
IPMI: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface) Intelligent Platform Management Interface.
NA4BH
11-02-2014, 02:07 PM
Damn, he called BUSHTIT on you Eddie.
VE7DCW
11-02-2014, 02:14 PM
Damn, he called BUSHTIT on you Eddie.
This is getting to be an exciting lexicon in itself! :yes:
VE7DCW
11-02-2014, 02:58 PM
Gerry is a 1337 haxor.
:neener: "Nyyyyyaaahh" .......... right back at you Carl!
:neener: "Nyyyyyaaahh" .......... right back at you Carl!
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K7SGJ
11-02-2014, 03:59 PM
54 40 or fight
VE7DCW
11-02-2014, 04:43 PM
54 40 or fight
Eddie......great musical group but if you meant a political statement,we won't go there..... :-D
K7SGJ
11-02-2014, 06:13 PM
Eddie......great musical group but if you meant a political statement,we won't go there..... :-D
Oh.............that's right. We CAN do political shit over here. I almost forgot. Bushtit
KG4NEL
11-02-2014, 09:22 PM
Defuxoring is 1337-Speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet), the present tense antonym of fuxor, to fuck over, fuck up, break something, etc.
JNLP: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start#Java_Network_Launching_Protocol_.28 JNLP.29) Java Network Launch Protocol.
KVM: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine) Kernel-based Virtual Machine.
IPMI: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface) Intelligent Platform Management Interface.
This is of my generation, but I don't know squat about IT other than how not to fuck up my own machines.
In St. Petersburg, Russia, a memorial to Steve Jobs (in the form of a giant iPhone) was removed after Tim Cook's announcement last week, purportedly because it violates Russian laws against "gay propaganda."
Full story here (http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-apple-statue-removed-20141103-story.html).
kd6nig
11-13-2014, 10:57 PM
Honestly when this story came out, my first thought was that it was a slow news day, or Apple attempting to keep themselves above the fold for another day or two.
ka8ncr
11-15-2014, 09:31 AM
Honestly when this story came out, my first thought was that it was a slow news day, or Apple attempting to keep themselves above the fold for another day or two.
If I remember correctly, the announcement was meant to head off an article that was being published. If it is mostly public anyway, why not state it in your own terms first?
suddenseer
11-15-2014, 10:03 AM
It was very difficult for me to come out of the closet, and I was, and still am a great unknown. I would imagine that a well known person would have an even harder time coming out, unless they were facing a forced outing (which I abhor). Couple the financial interests that will cause some homophobes to boycott a product based entirely on the CEO's sexual orientation, and nothing else. I used to belong to a religious cult, and those loonies were boycotting satanic corporations like Procter & Gamble (http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp) every day
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