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NA4BH
08-19-2014, 08:21 PM
Ok, my computer that I used to get on The Island, Yahoo, and look at email died Saturday morning. It was a death way too soon in my books. So I went and got a new Windows 8.1 computer with 1 TB storage, 8 gigs RAM, and who knows what the processor is.

So my question is, "what do I need to do/order to get a couple of files off my old hard drive? Mainly, MY GODDAMN ADIF FILE FROM MY LOGGING PROGRAM. The rest of it is crap, I need my log (not in the sense you think I said log). Any help will be greatly appreciated. I know all about the back-up schmaz, but I didn't do it because this thing shouldn't have died so young.

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 09:04 PM
Open up the old drive and use one of these to scrape the bits off into a jar:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TwK7MR4UaUI/TixGZE2oWWI/AAAAAAAABH0/KmM4PV2OkGA/s1600/5+in+1.jpg
Then drill a hole in the case of the new drive and pour the bits in using a funnel. Works every time.

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 09:06 PM
How do I know if I have enough bits?

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 09:07 PM
How do I know if I have enough bits?

Just keep scraping until no more come off.

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 09:11 PM
All I want is the one file. The pictures of Eddie and the donkey, which he called his ass, don't matter anymore.

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 09:12 PM
All I want is the one file. The pictures of Eddie and the donkey, which he called his ass, don't matter anymore.

Come to kindly terms with Eddie's ass, for it bears him. And he's pretty much unbearable.

K7SGJ
08-19-2014, 09:59 PM
I'm tired of being the butt of everyones joke. I know exactly how to recover your data. https://forums.hamisland.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12932&stc=1

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:05 PM
I didn't give the donkeys name so it's still anonymous. What do I need to do?

WØTKX
08-19-2014, 10:08 PM
whatkindagoddamhardrive is it?

whatkindagoddampcmobo are both of them?

Your new computer may be ornery about "seeing" that drive.

Like, maybe not support it well, if at all.

Different levels of "SATA" drives are doable, but may times it requires a

goddamdriveinterfacecard that works in the new goddamWindersComputer!

Yupper. :snicker:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--62GMGks3UA/TaBxWfmn7BI/AAAAAAAAI-w/GSLEY64TjgM/s400/Explore%2BMinnesota.png

K7SGJ
08-19-2014, 10:09 PM
I didn't give the donkeys name so it's still anonymous. What do I need to do?


Ask him, he's your only buddy now.

https://forums.hamisland.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12937&stc=1

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:20 PM
The wire lady still loves me.

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:22 PM
whatkindagoddamhardrive is it?

whatkindagoddampcmobo are both of them?

Your new computer may be ornery about "seeing" that drive.

Like, maybe not support it well, if at all.

Different levels of "SATA" drives are doable, but may times it requires a

goddamdriveinterfacecard that works in the new goddamWindersComputer!

Yupper. :snicker:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--62GMGks3UA/TaBxWfmn7BI/AAAAAAAAI-w/GSLEY64TjgM/s400/Explore%2BMinnesota.png

I will remove the drive and let you know. Tomorrow. I haven't got past the cussing phase yet.

K7SGJ
08-19-2014, 10:30 PM
The wire lady still loves me.

She won't let you strip her any more.

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:33 PM
But can I still copper a feel from her?

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 10:35 PM
Not if you can't get her jacket off.

K7SGJ
08-19-2014, 10:38 PM
I don't know how to gauge those remarks.

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:44 PM
I'm twisted up now.

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 10:46 PM
You two would make quite a twisted pair.

KJ3N
08-19-2014, 10:49 PM
I've been using something similar to one of these for a few years: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156102&cm_re=hard_drive_adapter_usb-_-12-156-102-_-Product

Pull the drive, plug it in, and go.

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 10:53 PM
I've been using something similar to one of these for a few years: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156102&cm_re=hard_drive_adapter_usb-_-12-156-102-_-Product

Pull the drive, plug it in, and go.

I don't get the pun...

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:53 PM
Thanks !!!

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 10:53 PM
I don't get the pun...

It was the plug it in and go thing.

KJ3N
08-19-2014, 10:59 PM
I don't get the pun...

That's because it wasn't a pun.

You guys seem to love turning every thread into a Pun Circle Jerk. I'm actually trying to answer the fucking question. :roll:

NA4BH
08-19-2014, 11:02 PM
And you did, again thank you.

To get a serious answer on the Island you have to trudge through the muck and mire (sp). All is good.

NQ6U
08-19-2014, 11:03 PM
I'm actually trying to answer the fucking question. :roll:

Man, you're no fun anymore...

K7SGJ
08-19-2014, 11:05 PM
I've been using something similar to one of these for a few years: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156102&cm_re=hard_drive_adapter_usb-_-12-156-102-_-Product

Pull the drive, plug it in, and go fuck yourself.

Fixed it for ya

n2ize
08-21-2014, 02:46 PM
There is a whole host of utilities available to recover lost data from a bad drive.Some may work where others fail and vice versa. depending on the degree of damage and/or type of faiure one utility may work better than another and/or in a worst case scenario none will work. There are also places you can bring the dead drive to and for a fee they will try and recover whatever they can. You need to assess whether its worth the cost. I have had mixed successes and failures with the various recovery utilities. On some drives I will find one that works and for other drives they are just dead as a door nail

kb2vxa
08-21-2014, 06:37 PM
Muck and Mire... the injury lawyers.

n2ize
08-22-2014, 03:47 AM
Ok, my computer that I used to get on The Island, Yahoo, and look at email died Saturday morning. It was a death way too soon in my books. So I went and got a new Windows 8.1 computer with 1 TB storage, 8 gigs RAM, and who knows what the processor is.

So my question is, "what do I need to do/order to get a couple of files off my old hard drive?

You don't want to do that. It will just cause more trouble,

n0iu
08-23-2014, 07:55 AM
Muck and Mire... the injury lawyers.


My divorce lawyers:

http://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/U6iGFt1lFY.jpg

WØTKX
08-23-2014, 10:26 AM
^^^ Fan of the Click and Clack credits at the end of the show?

The grumpy dude from Delaware is showing a method that can be used if your mobo doesn't support the old drive, in the most likely manner to be going on. I've also run into some oddball incompatibilities with early flavors of SATA drives. Which can be dealt with using a USB converter as well.

While we wait for information and/or news (gnus), de Jesus must be enjoying typing on his 'lil purple smartphone.

Perhaps, in character, with his okapi-like tongue.

KK4AMI
08-23-2014, 11:47 AM
First, I hope the drive is not bad, just the computer it came from is bad. If the drive is bad, I don't see how you are going to get squat off it. Second, while I'm not up on the latest Mother Boards, I think most MBs are still equipped with sockets to handle both SATA and IDE Drives. If so, get an IDE cable or SATA cable depending on what your Orphan drive is and hook it into your MB. You will also need to find an open power cable for the drive. Your computer should register the second drive (You might have to allow the second drive in your BIOS) and you should be able to access files on it with your Windows 8.1 and save it to your new hard drive.

WØTKX
08-23-2014, 04:57 PM
IDE is quite dead on the recent stuff.
Many mobos don't have native IDE.

SATA is king, and has evolved.

It's all conjecture, currently.
But let's fight about it.

Or do our best Captain Obvious.

KK4AMI
08-24-2014, 06:04 AM
IDE is quite dead on the recent stuff.
Many mobos don't have native IDE.

SATA is king, and has evolved.

It's all conjecture, currently.
But let's fight about it.

Or do our best Captain Obvious.

OK, I wasn't sure. The newest MB I ever had to deal with for our Computer Charity was built in 2006. We also have have plenty of external hard drive cases with USB connections around the shop, I guess that might work.

n2ize
08-24-2014, 12:15 PM
IDE is quite dead on the recent stuff.
Many mobos don't have native IDE.

SATA is king, and has evolved.

It's all conjecture, currently.
But let's fight about it.

Or do our best Captain Obvious.

IDE has gone the way of the floppy drive port on the new stuff. Around 2006 I bought a desktop system that was using IDE all the way although the MoBo had 2 usable SATA ports available. When my Dad bought his system just a few months later the MOBO had both SATA and IDE interfaces but the drives were all SATA and the IDE interfaces were left unused. Any system I've seen since about 2008-2009 has only SATA ports available on the MOBO and no IDE. If you want to use an old IDE you need to install a SATA to IDE interface. However they may be getting scarce since few people even bother with IDE drives at all anymore. Unless you are using old equipment of course. I still have a couple of systems on the network that are IDE only and have not yet been taken out of service and probably will stay in service for at least another year or so.

Then there was once MFM & RLL...

n2ize
08-24-2014, 12:16 PM
OK, I wasn't sure. The newest MB I ever had to deal with for our Computer Charity was built in 2006. We also have have plenty of external hard drive cases with USB connections around the shop, I guess that might work.

yeah, see my above post. 2006 was around the time that many MOBO's had both IDE & SATA ports. A year or two later the IDE ports had pretty much vanished from most MOBO's and left them SATA only.

NQ6U
08-24-2014, 12:41 PM
SCSI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI), man. It's the only way to go.

K7SGJ
08-24-2014, 01:14 PM
SCSI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI), man. It's the only way to go.

Another speed freak, eh?

n2ize
08-24-2014, 01:59 PM
SCSI was also great for running a whole array of devices off a single bus. Great for large scale storage systems, i.e. file servers, databases,etc.

WØTKX
08-24-2014, 03:02 PM
Ya'll scared away the patient. :lol:

http://topbransonshows.com/sites/topbransonshows.com/files/Granny%20Clampett.jpg

NQ6U
08-24-2014, 04:17 PM
SCSI was also great for running a whole array of devices off a single bus. Great for large scale storage systems, i.e. file servers, databases,etc.

Well, it was better than IDE but SCSI wasn't without problems of it's own. As a Macintosh support person back in the Old World* days, I ran into plenty of trouble that could be traced directly to a SCSI daisy chain and troubleshooting them often seemed to be as much magic as it was science. Sometimes, just swapping the order of the devices on the chain fixed the problem, even though they'd been working fine for months before any problem arose, and termination was an issue as well. The last device on the chain was supposed to be terminated but, often, breaking the rules and running without the terminator prevented problems. I never felt entirely relaxed when there was more than one SCSI device attached to any computer I was responsible for.



*In the Mac world, Old World means before USB and PCI took over from ADB and NuBus

HUGH
08-25-2014, 01:59 PM
Paragon offer freeware (if no-one has offered anything yet) which will recover from any drive, HDD as long as it rotates. It should recover files complete as long as the FAT table is fairly intact, bits and pieces if both FATs are corrupt.

I had a new one once, delivered with no box, it was sent and dropped through the letter box onto a hard, tiled floor. It didn't work, no rotation, so, angry with the sender, I banged it end on onto the table and it worked and was used for 12 years. It still works now but has been retired as it's too small by today's standards.