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K9CCH
07-30-2014, 09:03 AM
Why can't Yaesu/Icomm etc do this with a 2m?

AC8KF WALT
07-30-2014, 09:08 AM
so true.

KC2UGV
07-30-2014, 09:13 AM
Why can't Yaesu/Icomm etc do this with a 2m?

They have...
http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=111&encProdID=03484E782FF9B7DFA27AEE086A68F530&DivisionID=65&isArchived=0

NQ6U
07-30-2014, 10:38 AM
Simple: heat dissipation. Think of the difference in the heat generated by RF power amp of a 4 watt CB versus the one that produces the 50 watts or more of typical 2m ham rig and you'll understand why the ham rig has to be larger. The case of my 70 watt IC-2200H (which is not a large radio at all) is a one-piece cast aluminum heat sink.

KC2UGV
07-30-2014, 11:08 AM
Simple: heat dissipation. Think of the difference in the heat generated by RF power amp of a 4 watt CB versus the one that produces the 50 watts or more of typical 2m ham rig and you'll understand why the ham rig has to be larger. The case of my 70 watt IC-2200H (which is not a large radio at all) is a one-piece cast aluminum heat sink.

Yeah, but ham radio OEM's already have put a 4W transceiver VHF into a hand-held package. Many times :)

NQ6U
07-30-2014, 11:15 AM
Yeah, but ham radio OEM's already have put a 4W transceiver VHF into a hand-held package. Many times :)

Oh, sure. My VX-2R is tiny, not much bigger than the mic on my 2200H. It doesn't get out as well, though.

K9CCH
07-30-2014, 11:33 AM
They have...
http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=111&encProdID=03484E782FF9B7DFA27AEE086A68F530&DivisionID=65&isArchived=0


Yeah but what is its max power? 5w?

K9CCH
07-30-2014, 11:35 AM
Well... nevermind... I see that the Cobra is only 4w too.

NQ6U
07-30-2014, 11:44 AM
Well... nevermind... I see that the Cobra is only 4w too.

All CB rigs are 4 watts max, per FCC regs.

K7SGJ
07-30-2014, 11:52 AM
All CB rigs are 4 watts max, per FCC regs.


I see what you did there with the disclaimer.

NQ6U
07-30-2014, 11:53 AM
I see what you did there with the disclaimer.

You can always add pills, so long as you don't get caught.

K7SGJ
07-30-2014, 11:56 AM
You can always add pills, so long as you don't get caught.

I tried that. I stuck 8 aspirin in my Roadtalker 40, and all I got was a headache, which is all I get when I listen to 11 M.

K9CCH
07-30-2014, 11:57 AM
All CB rigs are 4 watts max, per FCC regs.

Did not know that. But if thats the case, I'll just put one of my Boafengs in the new Jeep.

K7SGJ
07-30-2014, 12:03 PM
Did not know that. But if thats the case, I'll just put one of my Boafengs in the new Jeep.


I just keep a 40 channel 4 watt handheld in the console. The last time I used it was when I took a couple of tons of cardboard to the recyclers. They used channel 5 to talk to people to let them know when they had the vehicle weight and could leave the scales. Otherwise, you had to go inside and tie up the scales which tended to piss off others.

WØTKX
07-30-2014, 01:02 PM
Also, there is this microphone, I have one.

http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-006492

K9CCH
07-30-2014, 03:12 PM
I more or less wanted something compact and all in one. Since I took the FT2800M out if the white Jeep I'm thinking about NOT installing it in the new Jeep. It's just big and I hate it sticking out everywhere.

KC9SQR
07-30-2014, 03:45 PM
I more or less wanted something compact and all in one. Since I took the FT2800M out if the white Jeep I'm thinking about NOT installing it in the new Jeep. It's just big and I hate it sticking out everywhere.

Take a look at the FT-90.. Someone I used to be friends with has one and they are TINY... 50 watts on VHF, 35 on UHF.. I wouldn't talk on them on high power very long though, as there is almost no heatsink to speak of... The radio itself was roughly the size of my Wouxun HT at the time if I remember right..

W7XF
07-30-2014, 04:02 PM
I just keep a 40 channel 4 watt handheld in the console. The last time I used it was when I took a couple of tons of cardboard to the recyclers. They used channel 5 to talk to people to let them know when they had the vehicle weight and could leave the scales. Otherwise, you had to go inside and tie up the scales which tended to piss off others.

Oh Gawd....Friedmans!!! The only reason I keep my CB is the built-in EAS receiver.

W7XF
07-30-2014, 04:04 PM
I more or less wanted something compact and all in one. Since I took the FT2800M out if the white Jeep I'm thinking about NOT installing it in the new Jeep. It's just big and I hate it sticking out everywhere.

Chris....if the faceplate detaches, you can remote mount the radio....Just use CAT5 cable between the body and head of the radio.

K7SGJ
07-30-2014, 04:14 PM
Chris....if the faceplate detaches, you can remote mount the radio....Just use CAT5 cable between the body and head of the radio.

This is what I would do, too. In fact, that's what I did with the FT 857D. All I have up front is the control head, mic, and a small speaker. The radio itself is under the rear seat. I just double sided foam taped the head to the dash, and it has been fine since I put it in a couple of years ago. Just about all the manufacturers make some kind of radio with a remote mountable head. I also have an FT-8900 that would work that way, too, but I keep it in the house since it would be redundant in the truck. I'm sure Kenwood and the others have something that would work for you.

K9CCH
07-30-2014, 05:09 PM
Chris....if the faceplate detaches, you can remote mount the radio....Just use CAT5 cable between the body and head of the radio.


It doesn't... thats the problem.

W7XF
07-31-2014, 01:13 AM
Ugh. Mount it somewhere.

KC2UGV
07-31-2014, 06:25 AM
It doesn't... thats the problem.

You could try a RAM mount, as they will allow you to mount it most anywhere. I saw in your thread that the original install you had shook a bit, and you didn't like that. Your mount will shake a little, not much can be done about it.

Alternatively, I believe you do have a center console in your jeep, yes? If so, another place to mount it. It you don't have one, and the shifter isn't in the way, make a center console to mount it in :)

w6tmi
07-31-2014, 02:30 PM
There was also this one:

https://forums.hamisland.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12814&stc=1

Kinda cool, but at the same time when you grabbed the mic, inevitably you hit SOMETHING.

kb2vxa
07-31-2014, 02:59 PM
I remember one like that a few years ago the size and roughly the shape of a potato we naturally called the potato mic. I can't see the back of that one so maybe not so bad as the potato mic that had buttons all over so you couldn't pick it up without messing something up, one royal PITA.

One word about CAT 5 cable, CAT 6 is much better having each twisted pair individually shielded. Then there's W6MI with his CAT ? avatar. (;->)

K7SGJ
07-31-2014, 04:17 PM
There was also this one:

https://forums.hamisland.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12814&stc=1

Kinda cool, but at the same time when you grabbed the mic, inevitably you hit SOMETHING.

Usually the vehicle in front of you.

w6tmi
08-01-2014, 02:19 PM
I remember one like that a few years ago the size and roughly the shape of a potato we naturally called the potato mic. I can't see the back of that one so maybe not so bad as the potato mic that had buttons all over so you couldn't pick it up without messing something up, one royal PITA.

One word about CAT 5 cable, CAT 6 is much better having each twisted pair individually shielded. Then there's W6MI with his CAT ? avatar. (;->)

With all the buttons on it, you could do cat6 or cat7 scan.
But yes, this is the ones with buttons on both sides and top and side.

A regular knob turners paradise in hand.

kb2vxa
08-01-2014, 05:26 PM
Ah yes, a CAT scan! Button, button, who's got the button? Now why didn't I think of that? Knob Turners, offspring of Ted Turner I suppose, and don't forget the PA Dutch country where you'll find Paradise, Bird In Hand, Intercourse and Blue Ball too!

W2NAP
08-04-2014, 04:37 PM
I tried that. I stuck 8 aspirin in my Roadtalker 40, and all I got was a headache, which is all I get when I listen to 11 M.

everyone knows when you use pills you need at least 32 pills to drop the maul.

K7SGJ
08-04-2014, 05:06 PM
everyone knows when you use pills you need at least 32 pills to drop the maul.


Us old guys don't like to go to the maul.

WØTKX
08-04-2014, 05:23 PM
Actually, CAT6 does not have to be shielded to meet spec, tho most are.

It has to do with the twists of the cable being tighter.
Prime numbers in each twist pair, and all different.

wa6mhz
08-05-2014, 09:32 AM
Actually there was a Radio many years ago that was very similar to that. The Yaesu FT-530 had a remot mic with all the controls on it and a digital display
http://forums.qrz.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68221&d=1308438485&thumb=1

N8YX
08-05-2014, 09:59 AM
I wish I could get one of those for a VX-8.

WØTKX
08-05-2014, 11:25 AM
I've got a "freebie" broken FT-530 that still receives, no transmit.
I'll fix it someday, maybe. Bet that microphone is rare as hell.