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koØm
04-08-2014, 09:20 AM
Long ago and, in a different place, a RF appliance builder got on the phone and called the Peter W. Dahl Company in El Paso, Texas. This builder needed a Plate transformer to supply B+ voltage. On the other end of the phone, was an Engineer who inquired about the purpose of the transformer in need. The builder spoke to Gary M. and told him that he needed to supply 3300+ volts @ 3.0 amps CCS to power six Eimac 3-500Z Vacuum Tubes in a converted Heath SB-220. He requested a low tap for 2600 volts for CW / Tune mode and, a split primary for 117 vac /234 vac input. The PWD company had an outboard SB-220 X2 transformer design that would do the job.

He order and paid for the transformer and waited for it's arrival; the transformer arrived in about 6 weeks and was connected to the RF appliance where, it proceeded to exceed all expectations delivering a minimum input power of 12,000 VA of energy to the tubes; the appliance operated at a rate of 63% efficiency and delivered the appropriate amounts of watts to a 50 ohm load.

Years later, it was pulled from a closet and offered for sale, I received this in response:


Hi, Your ad for the power supply says 2600v at 3.5amps CCS. The transformer has a secondary of only 975 to 1125v. When you triple the ac voltage to 2600v you have reduced the rating of the transformer to one third or about 1.2 amps. So in reality the power supply is rated at 2600v at 1.2 amps. FYI 73, W*TJA

At that point, I went to look in the bathroom mirror to see if my head was still in the right place or, had it inadvertently slid from between my shoulders and wedged itself up and in between my buttocks; either that, or it seems that my Advanced Class associate has the current requirements to supply the primary (117 volts versus 234 volts) mixed up with the secondary output capabilities under load.

If a "customer" custom orders a item for a specific application, receives such item, uses such item and, the item performs as advertised and described, why is there always someone from the QRZ peanut gallery willing to argue with you about the correctness of 2 + 2 equaling 4?

You are probably wondering, why this wasn't posted somewhere else like over there or in the De-Con Zone here; It posted it in a public place so that my associates with some degree of technical experience can comment: the output of the secondary is rectified by a full-wave voltage doubler circuit (input X 2.828 = output @ 3.5 amps). The unloaded voltage of the B+ supply exceeds 4,000 volts.

Times have changed since the FCC was still handing out Advanced calls in the 4 land area and, I'm on the wrong side of Ohm's Law, or not.

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W3WN
04-08-2014, 12:28 PM
That comment had my head spinning so much, I thought I'd be cast in the latest remake of The Exorcist.

There's only one thing to do. Politely say "thanks, I'll take it under advisement" and then proceed to ignore the putz.

Granted, some might think he needs to be put to death, since he's already brain-dead, and we should put the rest of him out of his misery. There have to be easier ways to go through his clothing to look for loose change.

kb2vxa
04-08-2014, 08:31 PM
I'm watching The Lords Of Flatbush and out of the side of one ear herd the comment "you're a schmuck because you're smart". With that in mind the opposite holds true here, "you're a putz because you're dumb". He needs to be wired to the secondary and power applied, hope the breaker doesn't trip until he's thoroughly cooked. A little electrical chlorine in the gene pool helps keep it clean. Hopefully he hasn't reproduced and passed on his stupid genes to future generations, if he has Earth's goose is the one that's cooked.

"Granted, some might think he needs to be put to death..."
Yeah, or at least being brain dead disconnect life support. The walking dead eat brains but they don't get any smarter, so why waste the money?
"Politely say "thanks, I'll take it under advisement" and then proceed to ignore the putz."
Obviously a grumpy old bastid isn't so kind to stupid.

PA5COR
04-09-2014, 02:38 AM
I have my own law, where the most smoke comes from the highest current runs....

kb2vxa
04-09-2014, 07:08 AM
We can add that as a sub-paragraph of Murphy's Law, COR-1. How many are we up to now BTW?

PA5COR
04-09-2014, 07:36 AM
Just that my head is spinning now, back to the books it is...;)

kb2vxa
04-10-2014, 08:43 AM
You won't find an answer in the books, Murphy's Law was never officially published. Unfortunately I don't recall at this time which Ohm's Law As Amended Part(s) the RF appliance builder got his information from.

n0iu
04-12-2014, 07:36 AM
...why is there always someone from the QRZ peanut gallery willing to argue with you about the correctness of 2 + 2 equaling 4?

Maybe he is an account. There is the old joke about the engineer and the accountant who are applying for the same job. Since the job involves math, the HR manager asks the engineer, "What is 2 + 2?" to which he replies, "Four". Then the HR manager asks the accountant, "What is 2 + 2?" to which he replies, "What do you want it to be?"

kb2vxa
04-13-2014, 06:08 PM
Do you remember the Personnel Department when we were treated as persons? Now it's the Department of Human Resources and we're treated as any other resource to be used, wasted, and disposed of as waste. And me and the shrink were jumping up and down shouting KILL, KILL, KILL when the Sargent came along, pinned a medal on me, said "Your our boy." and sent me down the hall.