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K7SGJ
03-17-2014, 11:21 AM
We have a lot of deep thinkers on here, as well as a few shallow ones, and I am soliciting theories on what happened to Flt 370, and why.
Was it hijacked and safely landed somewhere? Why? To use as a delivery platform for some kind of weapon against the US or some other country? Was the plan to take it somewhere but they ran out of fuel? Was it purposely crashed into the ocean for some extremist's cause? If so, why wasn't it done immediately so it would be found for the publicity? Who may be responsible, and for what reason? Do you think it will ever be located and the mystery surrounding it's journey will ever be known? It wasn't lost in the Bermuda Triangle, so that eliminates aliens. Was it lost looking for Amelia Earhart?
The more details that are released, the more baffling the whole story becomes. I'm curious about what YOU think.
http://regretfulmorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens.jpg
Seriously, it's getting weirder all the time. Latest info I've heard is that the pilot was a supporter of the opposition movement within Malaysia—a movement who's leader was jailed for homosexuality (which is illegal in there) just a few hours before the aircraft disappeared.
W9JEF
03-17-2014, 12:15 PM
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It's getting "curiouser and curiouser."
(Apologies to Charles Lutwidge Dodgson)
Waiting for the "other shoe" to drop here.
NA4BH
03-17-2014, 12:18 PM
We have a lot of deep thinkers on here, as well as a few shallow ones, and I am soliciting theories on what happened to Flt 370, and why.
Was it hijacked and safely landed somewhere? Why? To use as a delivery platform for some kind of weapon against the US or some other country? Was the plan to take it somewhere but they ran out of fuel? Was it purposely crashed into the ocean for some extremist's cause? If so, why wasn't it done immediately so it would be found for the publicity? Who may be responsible, and for what reason? Do you think it will ever be located and the mystery surrounding it's journey will ever be known? It wasn't lost in the Bermuda Triangle, so that eliminates aliens. Was it lost looking for Amelia Earhart?
The more details that are released, the more baffling the whole story becomes. I'm curious about what YOU think.
Look at you, going all John Cameron Swayze on us.
K7SGJ
03-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Look at you, going all John Cameron Swayze on us.
I'm about to go Mohammad Ali all over your ass, buddy; butterflies, bees, and everything. Where are the pix of our 18 gauge chick, anyway?
K0RGR
03-17-2014, 12:57 PM
It sure looks more deliberate with every piece of new information, and most likely whoever did it had help - there is some evidence of it. They know the plane climbed to 45,000 feet for a period of time. That is above the service ceiling for the aircraft, and I suspect it was done to 'deal with' the passengers - above 40,000 feet, even with a pressurized cabin, the passengers would need to breath pure oxygen to survive for long. If the plane landed somewhere and refueled, it could be anywhere in the world.
PA5COR
03-17-2014, 04:41 PM
http://www.eutimes.net/2014/03/malaysia-airlines-mystery-deepens-after-top-disease-experts-rushed-to-indian-ocean/
More suspention and riddles.
A grim report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU (http://eng.mil.ru/)) on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370) is stating today that within 24-hours of this aircrafts “diversion” to the highly secretive Indian Ocean US military base located on the Diego Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia) atoll, no less than four flights, within the past week, containing top American and Chinese disease scientists and experts have, likewise, been flown to there.
According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft “disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.
Rest follow the linky provided at the top.
The source of that article is nothing more than a blog (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1754.htm) of dubious repute, Cor.
PA5COR
03-17-2014, 05:35 PM
Yep, CNN opted for a rapture of God, that is how "reputable" news organisations speculate....;)
After a commercial airline pilot had trouble explaining where the missing plane could be, CNN anchor Don Lemon turned Sunday to Brad Meltzer, host of the History Channel’s “Decoded.” The two spoke about the possibility that there may be no logical explanation for why the jet vanished nine days ago.
“Especially today, on a day when we deal with the supernatural, we go to church, the supernatural power of God. You deal with all of that,” Lemon said to Meltzer. “People are saying to me, why aren’t you talking about the possibility — and I’m just putting it out there — that something odd happened to this plane, something beyond our understanding
Read more at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/#GvcGKtM2vDCpYPvr.99
Obviously, CNN is no longer a reputable news organization.
NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/03/cnn-apologizes-for-briefly-airing-non-flight-370-story.html))—CNN apologized to its viewers today for briefly airing a story on Sunday that had nothing to do with the missing Malaysia Airlines flight.
The story, which caused thousands of viewers to contact the network in anger, had something to do with Crimea, Ukraine, and Russia.
In the official apology, CNN chief Jeff Zucker wrote, “On Sunday, we briefly cut away from our nonstop coverage of Flight 370 to talk about something else. We’re not going to sugarcoat it: we messed up. CNN regrets the error and promises our viewers that it won’t happen again.”
KC2UGV
03-17-2014, 05:46 PM
Not enough data yet to even attempt to draw a hypothesis.
KG4CGC
03-17-2014, 06:16 PM
Obama captured the plane with a tractor beam to show Putin that "he means business." The plane is on an island in the area and all the passengers are being reprogrammed and will lead new lives all over the planet.
We have a lot of deep thinkers on here, as well as a few shallow ones, and I am soliciting theories on what happened to Flt 370, and why...
http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_serling_3e.jpg
A television network is filming the entire event. First they'll say it's a TV movie. Then it'll be a pilot for a show. Then it'll be a reality show. They'll give gummies and fool their audience into thinking the survivors are eating real worms and insects. Each month, someone will get voted off the island. Then Snooki will show up and give everyone a big hug.
We all know it's Obama's fault, don't we? :snicker:
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tv/thumb/1337/46/1337463965853s.jpg
KC2UGV
03-17-2014, 06:54 PM
Obama captured the plane with a tractor beam to show Putin that "he means business." The plane is on an island in the area and all the passengers are being reprogrammed and will lead new lives all over the planet.
New Samurai Candidate? Or was that Manchurian? Oh, bother...
:snicker:
NA4BH
03-17-2014, 10:10 PM
Where are the pix of our 18 gauge chick, anyway?
It took a while but I got her fixed
http://www.electronicplus.com/images/products/238614.jpg
K7SGJ
03-17-2014, 11:01 PM
It took a while but I got her fixed
http://www.electronicplus.com/images/products/238614.jpg
Holy shit, that's the biggest IUD I think I've seen.
http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_serling_3e.jpg
A television network is filming the entire event. First they'll say it's a TV movie. Then it'll be a pilot for a show.
11914
Clean Cut Euro-Jesus knows what you did there....
Bubba
03-18-2014, 06:33 AM
The Guamanians have been offered an unprecedented special deal, an all expenses paid, round trip from Malaysia Airlines . The destination of your choice will be decided once airborne. . But, you have to sign up for the plane that is currently in stock and sitting on the tarmac of Andersen AFB currently.
KC2UGV
03-18-2014, 07:07 AM
A likely scenario, give the facts, and after application of Occam's Razor:
http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-plane-fire-2014-3
PA5COR
03-18-2014, 07:27 AM
Still a short distress message would have been send when they noticed that trouble if that happend if even for the traffic controlers to make sure they would get a free flightpath to the unintended airfield to make the emergency landing, and prepare the airfield for it.
If a front tire was on fire and smoke entered the cabin the crew has emergency oxygen masks, and the way to keep the smoke from getting in the plane is to let the gear down, and let the tire burn out by the fast wind of the travel, blowing the fire out.
Or at least keep the smoke outside the plane.
It also doesn't explain why passenger's phones still get called up and take the call, but are not answered.
If they were at the bottom of the ocean, they could not take the call.
Again, one of the many "theories" out there and we will only know what happened if the plane and passengers and crew is found or their remains.
KC2UGV
03-18-2014, 08:11 AM
Still a short distress message would have been send when they noticed that trouble if that happend if even for the traffic controlers to make sure they would get a free flightpath to the unintended airfield to make the emergency landing, and prepare the airfield for it.
If a front tire was on fire and smoke entered the cabin the crew has emergency oxygen masks, and the way to keep the smoke from getting in the plane is to let the gear down, and let the tire burn out by the fast wind of the travel, blowing the fire out.
Or at least keep the smoke outside the plane.
Think about this Cor... Electrical fire... Now, add oxygen. What happens?
Oxygen masks are for depressurization events.
Now, go outside and find a tire. Light it on fire. Stand two feet away. Time how long you're conscious for.
Now, that all being said, the priorities during flight is to get situation under control first (Get fire out), and at the same time prep your craft for emergency landing. After all of that is done, then communicate. This ain't the movies where people can do 30 things at the same time.
It also doesn't explain why passenger's phones still get called up and take the call, but are not answered.
If they were at the bottom of the ocean, they could not take the call.
This does:
The ring a person hears after dialing isn't a ring generated by the end equipment. It's a signal designed to let you know the phone system is working to locate the subscriber equipment. With cell phones, you have to route quite a bit to get to the end point. All the time, the system is ringing.
When the system finally determines the subscriber is not in service, it'll do one of a few things, depending on subscriber system config: Go to voice mail, fast busy, or call term.
Again, one of the many "theories" out there and we will only know what happened if the plane and passengers and crew is found or their remains.
Very true. However, this explanation is one of the few that fits the facts, and is the one that survives Occam's Razor.
W9JEF
03-18-2014, 10:49 AM
Now, that all being said, the priorities during flight is to get situation under control first (Get fire out), and at the same time prep your craft for emergency landing. After all of that is done, then communicate. This ain't the movies where people can do 30 things at the same time.
Isn't there some sort of "panic button" that would immediately
alert Air Traffic Control to the situation, while the crew is busy dealing with it?
KC2UGV
03-18-2014, 10:52 AM
Isn't there some sort of "panic button" that would immediately
alert Air Traffic Control to the situation, while the crew is busy dealing with it?
Not that I am aware of. Could be, don't know. I've never seen one in any of the airframes I worked on.
PA5COR
03-18-2014, 10:57 AM
In my time at Her Majesty's Customs we came in most planes, (1973-1976) and in all planes was the "panic button"to warn for a hijack.
But then that is a long time back...
W9JEF
03-18-2014, 11:25 AM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/Malaysia-flight-370.jpg
On Monday morning, a few fixed points we thought we had in the mystery of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 were rubbed out or, at least, smudged. On Sunday, Malaysian authorities said that the plane’s Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was turned off at 1:07 A.M. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html) on March 8th, twenty-six minutes after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing. Then, like a row of candles being snuffed out, the last voice message from the cockpit came at 1:19 (“All right, good night”) and the transponder went silent at 1:21. This was suggestive: if the ACARS had been off for twelve minutes, the pilot would have known that when he called—so was he lying or did he have a gun to his head? And, if the transponder and ACARS stopped working a quarter of an hour apart, how could these outages be owing to a technical failure or a major electronic outage? The timeline, as officials acknowledged over the weekend, suggests criminal involvement.
But, like much of what Malaysian authorities have said, it may be all wrong. “The last ACARS transmission was One Zero Seven. O.K.? We don’t know when the ACARS was switched off after that,” Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the chief executive of Malaysia Airlines, said at a press conference (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?hp). “It was supposed to transmit thirty minutes from then, another transmission, but that transmission did not come through—that was the very last transmission they had, one zero seven. When it was switched off? Anytime between that and the next thirty minutes. O.K.?”
So the ACARS could have been operating fine until 1:37, eighteen minutes after the voice message—which, according to Ahmad Jauhari, came from the co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, and not the pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26610946). When Fariq said “all right,” he might have been telling the honest truth, for all we know. And the ACARS could, indeed, have stopped working simultaneously with the transponder, at 1:21.
Malaysia’s Defense Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, who had given the wrong information over the weekend, more or less shrugged when he was asked about it at the press conference Monday; this episode is not improving Malaysia’s reputation for transparency.
There was undoubtedly some sort of human drama on this plane. We may, once again, have to widen our search. Flight 370 made strange turns—a sharp west hook over the Malaysian peninsula, and a northern jab in the Straits of Malacca (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2)—for which there are radar and other tracking traces until 2:15 A.M. A person was still deciding something, at least for a while—maybe several people, maybe pilots, and maybe even non-criminal passengers, though a change in altitude might have knocked them out, and perhaps was meant to. (The plane ascended to the upper limit of its vertical range.) But could it have been an effort to survive something other than a criminal act? The plane’s systems operated, we know from a satellite ping, until 8:11 that morning, so anyone alive then would have had hours to see the sky turn light. Or maybe it was all over.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2014/03/the-story-of-flight-370-changes-again.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailyemail&mbid=nl_Daily%20(137)
The plane landed at Area 51. That's why they're being so secretive. :giggity:
kb2vxa
03-18-2014, 05:26 PM
FLASH! VXA News exclusive photograph of the hijackers!
Not that I am aware of. Could be, don't know. I've never seen one in any of the airframes I worked on.
The so-called panic button was just dialing in a specific code on the transponder. If the pilot squawks 7500, it means the aircraft is being hijacked, 7600 means radio failure, 7700 means an unspecified other emergency.
K7SGJ
03-18-2014, 06:15 PM
The so-called panic button was just dialing in a specific code on the transponder. If the pilot squawks 7500, it means the aircraft is being hijacked, 7600 means radio failure, 7700 means an unspecified other emergency.
7900 means stepping outside for a breath of fresh air.
10-100 means time out/bm.
W9JEF
03-19-2014, 09:25 AM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/LON20588-580.jpg
I’ve known the anxiety of being completely lost, flying, at night. It can be extreme. You’re travelling at close to five hundred miles an hour, and every minute that goes by takes you further into being lost unless you get help from ground radar somewhere or somehow figure out the error. If you maintain altitude, is it a safe altitude or should you climb? How long have you been lost? It doesn’t happen suddenly. It’s just suddenly recognized.
READ MORE:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/03/lost-in-air-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailyemail&mbid=nl_Daily%20(138)
11914
Clean Cut Euro-Jesus knows what you did there....
:lol:
I really think this is just another reminder that not only don't we control our lives, but our lives are sometimes controlled in unexpected ways. Michio Kaku was on the boob tube saying that this plane might never be found.
"CBS This Morning" contributor Michio Kaku, a physics professor at the City University of New York, called the Indian Ocean a black hole with regards to radar.
He noted that it took 70 years to locate the Titanic after it sank. In the case of the Air France 447 crash in 2009, when investigators had a better idea of where the plane went down, it was still two years before the flight recorder was found, he said.
"It's like finding a needle in 10,000 haystacks," he said. "There is a chance that we may never find the wreckage."
The Indian Ocean's currents will push the debris field over a larger and larger space as time goes by, Kaku said. And the flight recorder -- though it emits an ultrasonic beacon that could be picked up by submarines -- has a battery life of just 30 days, he said.
"After 30 days," he said, "the flight recorder goes blank and we go blind."
The Indian Ocean is so deep in some areas that robots -- an expensive and time-consuming option -- would need to be used in the search.
Maybe missing Malaysia Airlines plane will never be found (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/might-the-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-never-be-found/)
I think it will, but that's only my
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K7SGJ
03-19-2014, 10:04 AM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/LON20588-580.jpg
READ MORE:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/03/lost-in-air-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailyemail&mbid=nl_Daily%20(138)
I pretty much agree with this. I believe the craft went into the ocean. They questions of where, and how can only be answered when the plane, or what's left of it, is located. The who and why.......that may never be known.
AC8KF WALT
03-19-2014, 06:17 PM
Diego Garcia has a nice runway. i'm betting we'll see that plane again but, the crew and passengers....who knows.
Bubba
03-19-2014, 07:36 PM
The search has ended. Apparently the plane has been found….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/courtney-love-claims-to-have-found-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-9198965.html
NA4BH
03-19-2014, 07:44 PM
LOL
The search has ended. Apparently the plane has been found….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/courtney-love-claims-to-have-found-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-9198965.html
I must have misread...i thought you said 'plane has been found', not 'old, washed up psychopath has been found'.
KG4CGC
03-19-2014, 09:37 PM
The Hole singer claims she may have found the missing jetliner after posting an image and co-ordinates on her Facebook page.
I've heard of tunnel and canyon singers but is Courtney yodeling in the valley?
Bubba
03-19-2014, 10:49 PM
The Hole singer claims she may have found the missing jetliner after posting an image and co-ordinates on her Facebook page.
Ya, I'm not sure I ever heard of that term before. WTH is a Hole singer ??
NA4BH
03-19-2014, 10:53 PM
Never heard of them either, this will clear it up for ya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_%28band%29
Bubba
03-19-2014, 10:57 PM
On a serious note, it looks like the Aussies have found the plane. Seams like it almost made it to Antarctica.. How does a plane headed for China almost end up in Antarctica. WTH..
Yep. The AMSA (http://amsa.gov.au/) and the Australian Navy is holding a news conference right about now. Ought to be on NBC.
EDIT the stream is here. (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/coming-amsa-presser-missing-jet-n57321)
They've just begun.
Edit 2. They're still not sure it is related to this flight. It is 1500 miles WSW of Perth, Australia which is on the West coast of the country.
VK3ZL
03-20-2014, 04:12 AM
It is to be hoped that the apparent wreckage being looked over comes from the airliner..I watched a TV news conference with our defence leader and Prime minister...They warn that this may still be all speculation...The supposed wreckage floating is about 24 meters long, possibly a wing...The weather is not good and it may be at least 36 hours before we can have a Naval unit on sight..Location approx 2500kms Southwest from Perth.
Other speculation now is that this all may have been a tragic accident with a catastrophic fire overcoming the crew before they could do anything...I feel sad for all those on board and their families..We in the West are really very heartless regarding those from poorer countries, people who want the same life goals and comforts that we take for granted and squander...
Bob..VK3ZL..
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