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W9JEF
02-23-2014, 10:51 AM
Starting in March on FOX Network. (???)
I wonder, are all those 6,000-year-old-earthers
going to take all the "science propaganda" sitting down?





carl sagan (http://io9.com/tag/carl-sagan)
Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey (http://io9.com/tag/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey)
Neil deGrasse Tyson (http://io9.com/tag/neil-degrasse-tyson)



New Cosmos trailer shows how Carl Sagan's series got upgraded (http://io9.com/new-cosmos-trailer-shows-how-carl-sagans-series-has-go-1512368734)


Neil deGrasse Tyson has picked up where Carl Sagan ended,
and his newly rebooted Cosmos series look pretty astounding,
as you can see in this trailer with the first actual footage.

We are exceptionally excited for the 13-episode series titled Cosmos:
A Space Time Odyssey, produced by Seth MacFarlane and Sagan's
original 1980s collaborators — a whole team of scientists and writers
including astronomer Steven Soter and author Ann Druyan.
This could be the feel-good science TV series we've been missing.
But most importantly, it looks good — real good.

Cosmos: A Space Time Odyssey will premiere on March 9th.



http://io9.com/new-cosmos-trailer-shows-how-carl-sagans-series-has-go-1512368734

N8YX
02-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Good. I'm a huge fan of his...couple knowledge with stage presence and you have the necessary ingredients of a show that gets young minds involved with science. Which is what this country needs.

N2NH
02-23-2014, 11:39 AM
March 9th @ 9PM. Already have it memorized. Cosmos was great if a bit topical. I am a big Tyson fan, so I can't wait.

One drawback. It's on Fox. Why not?

suddenseer
02-23-2014, 06:40 PM
Fox Sports is awesome. The sophmoric television shows are mildly amusing. The so called news division :rofl:

n2ize
02-23-2014, 09:10 PM
The universe is only 6 trillionths of a second old.

KG4CGC
02-23-2014, 09:20 PM
Tyson is brilliant. Heavy hitter in today's climate.

NQ6U
02-23-2014, 11:24 PM
Tyson is brilliant.

Produces a helluva lotta chickens, too.

N2NH
02-23-2014, 11:38 PM
Produces a helluva lotta chickens, too.

We'll see what happens the first time he mentions evolution or climate change...

VE7DCW
02-23-2014, 11:40 PM
Tyson is brilliant. Heavy hitter in today's climate.

Yeah.... as a undisputed heavyweight champion boxer maybe....but upstairs he's a little punch drunk in my opinion! :mrgreen:

kb2vxa
02-24-2014, 06:46 AM
This one just cracked me up!

W9JEF
02-24-2014, 11:09 AM
Produces a helluva lotta chickens, too.


http://drivetofive.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/tyson_truck.jpg

W9JEF
02-25-2014, 12:26 PM
Tyson is the host of the new “Cosmos,” and he was in Los Angeles
for the final days of shooting. After nine months in locations
ranging from Iceland to Italy, “Cosmos” had come to the Paramount lot
to shoot special effects, including a simulation of how a New York City street
would look in zero gravity. A common misconception is to think that,
in such conditions, everything floats upward, as in a vision of Rapture.
Tyson observed an extra, wearing a hidden harness,
walk up a stepladder that had been placed in front of a green screen.
At the top, he continued a diagonal trajectory, as if there were invisible steps.
“He’s a good zero-g guy,” Tyson said. . . .
http://static.cdn.realviewdigital.com/global/content/GetImage.aspx?pguid=FC9071DC-DD99-441F-A727-1B74670350BC&width=232&i=2014-02-17&folio=080 (http://archives.newyorker.com/?i=2014-02-17#folio=080)
http://static.cdn.realviewdigital.com/global/content/GetImage.aspx?pguid=FC9071DC-DD99-441F-A727-1B74670350BC&width=232&i=2014-02-17&folio=081 (http://archives.newyorker.com/?i=2014-02-17#folio=080)



http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/02/17/140217fa_fact_mead

W9JEF
03-14-2014, 11:00 AM
Watched the first episode--was not disappointed.

Not only enlightening (without all that math), a great light show. :)

According to Tyson's Cosmic Calendar, the birth of Jesus happened about 4 seconds ago.



Fox/Cosmos


If the big bang happened at the beginning of the year, the first second of January 1, then:As it expanded, the universe cooled, and it was darkness for about 200 million years. Gravity was pulling together clumps of gas and heating them until the first stars burst into light on January 10. On January 13th, these stars coalesced to form the first small galaxies. These galaxies merged to form still larger ones, including our own Milky Way. We formed about 11 billion years ago, on March 15 of the cosmic year.

It took until September for the solar system to develop, and early earth to be created. Life starts about that time too.

In this scale, humans didn't arise until the last day of the year, and modern civilization makes up about the last 14 seconds of the year. Everyone we have ever heard of lived in those 14 seconds, deGrasse Tyson says:
Every person you've ever heard of lies right in there. All those kings and battles, migrations and inventions, wars and loves, every thing in the history books happened here in the last seconds of the cosmic calendar.

Here's a detailed version from Wikipedia user Efbrazil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efbrazil):http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/531cec7aeab8eaa651e7c2a7-1200-924/cosmic_calendar.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efbrazil)



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-calendar-from-cosmos-premier-2014-3#ixzz2vxBR3bG8



http://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-calendar-from-cosmos-premier-2014-3

KJ3N
03-14-2014, 11:12 AM
We'll see what happens the first time he mentions evolution or climate change...

Here's what happens in Oklahoma:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/oklahoma-station-cut-cosmos-evolution-video_n_4958024.html?utm_hp_ref=religion&ir=Religion

N2NH
03-17-2014, 04:59 PM
Here's what happens in Oklahoma:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/oklahoma-station-cut-cosmos-evolution-video_n_4958024.html?utm_hp_ref=religion&ir=Religion

Man I'm good. Well, they must've had a real ball with last nights episode. It was about evolution for the full hour. :snicker:

W9JEF
03-18-2014, 10:04 AM
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Now that cosmologists have found that "smoking gun"
deGrasse Tyson could have enough new material for
a whole 'nother season. :)

W9JEF
03-18-2014, 11:36 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/73487/large/corpcosmos720.png?1395086531 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/73487/lightbox/corpcosmos720.png?1395086531)

W9JEF
03-19-2014, 11:10 AM
I must admit to being wrong, in my post about the new 'COSMOS' series when I wrote:

My take is there won’t be any such ‘pushback’ because these close-minded dolts won’t bother to watch it in the first place! They are too sure of their blind faith based on nothing but superstition and old wives tales elaborated by primitive, semi-literate nomads in an ancient book.

This was in response to Denver Post reviewer Joanne Ostrow's take that 'pushback' would come from "conservative religious quarters" who didn't like the graphic animation of how the Roman Catholic Inquisition put Giordano Bruno to death for his conception of an infinite universe. The segment was very well done, especially the scene where Bruno is dragged in front of his accusers - all Bishops - who also had the appearance of psycho perverts with their dark-rimmed beady eyes and reptilian pupils and the exaggerated five o'clock shadow with some drool coming down over the lips. It was well done but I didn't think any of these idiots would respond because well, they wouldn't watch it!

But I was wrong! According to a salon.com report, these Neanderthals came out guns blazing. According to the report:

"Some of the poor souls oppressed by Neil deGrasse Tyson’s return to the promised land first pioneered by Carl Sagan took to Twitter with their predictable grumblings. (http://thedailybanter.com/2014/03/the-christian-zealot-reaction-to-last-nights-cosmos-debut-is-about-what-youd-expect/)

My favorite: “Dear #cosmos, the origin of the universe actually is not mysterious. God had Moses write about it in the #Bible. You should read it sometime.”

http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2014/03/xtianoid-twitterati-strike-back-at.html

N2NH
03-19-2014, 11:32 AM
:-|

Delete dupe.

KG4CGC
03-20-2014, 03:35 PM
Yeah.... as a undisputed heavyweight champion boxer maybe....but upstairs he's a little punch drunk in my opinion! :mrgreen:

Yeah. You're right. They need a Canadian host. You, perhaps?

kb2vxa
03-20-2014, 06:27 PM
Please don't, we've had it up to THERE with Canadian imports!

W9JEF
03-21-2014, 03:47 AM
Yeah.... as a undisputed heavyweight champion boxer maybe....but upstairs he's a little punch drunk in my opinion! :mrgreen:

Hey... his personality comes from growing up in the Bronx, or maybe Brooklyn.

It's a regional thing--sort of like the "Southern Charm" of Mississippi folks. :)

kb2vxa
03-21-2014, 07:18 AM
Born in Manhattan, raised in the Bronx. It's a miracle he survived at all.

W9JEF
03-21-2014, 11:28 AM
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In school, he was advised to go into sports, as there were very few negroes with careers in science.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/02/17/140217fa_fact_mead

N2NH
03-21-2014, 11:37 AM
http://youtu.be/YNFBbeDSGEY

X-Rated
03-21-2014, 11:40 AM
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In school, he was advised to go into sports, as there were very few negroes with careers in science.

There is no chance of success for negroes in science. Look at George Washington Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Rebecca Cole, Edward Alexander Bouchet, Dr. Daniel Hale Williams, Charles Henry Turner, Ernest Everett Just, Archibald Alexander, Roger Arliner Young, Percy Julian, Dr. Charles Richard Drew, Dave's father Emmett Chappelle, James West, Philip Emeagwali, Aprille Ericsson and the like. Look at Aprille Ericsson for example. She is trying to bring dust back from Mars. As if we don't have enough dust here? Pfffffft.

W9JEF
03-24-2014, 11:43 AM
As with the first 2 installments, a stunning arrangement of actuality and animation,
spiced with the witty and effervescent Neil deGrasse Tyson personality.

It was about his idol, Sir Isaac Newton
and his rivalry with this Hooke guy;
and a friend, an astronomer named Haley.
Who (contrary to popular belief)
never discovered a comet.

http://hight3ch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/neil-degrasse-tyson-isaac-newton.jpg
Neil deGrasse Tyson reminds us all of the genius of Sir Isaac Newton, often remembered
only about his gravity work but rarely about his other contributions to society.






http://hight3ch.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-talks-about-his-idol-sir-isaac-newton/

n2ize
03-24-2014, 03:42 PM
We'll see what happens the first time he mentions evolution or climate change...

He didn't have to. They are already mad as hell after the first show because he is threatening their belief system. The earth is only 6000 years old because the bible says so. Scientific evidence doesn't mean shit.You see science is okay just so long as it doesn't pose a threat to someones religious belief system or someones business model. When it does it is then considered to be crap.

For example, here some creationist logic. "If somewhere in the bible it said 2+2 = 5 I'd believe it without question". How much of a tool can one be ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysecinv367w

kb2vxa
03-24-2014, 09:20 PM
Of course neee-gros don't stand a chance in science. George Washington Carver (How's THAT for a slave name?) invented the peanut and look where it got us, a bunch of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and JIMMY CARTER. Neil deGrasse Tyson didn't invent the universe, Carl Sagan did, but his adventures in CMOS, A Microchip Oddity pick up where Carl left off. At least he can string a sentence together without using millions and millions for glue. Now you can add his name to the long list of the greatest scientists the world has ever known, Black or otherwise. With his great personality and ability to communicate without complicated and intensely boring Greek equations you can get an education just watching him sleep.

Yeah, creationists are just as whacked out as greenies and Faux Noise, never let facts get in the way of a good story. The universe was created in 6 days by an eternal being who got bored with floating around in a timeless void so he said "Let there be light." and POOF, he could see what he was doing for the next 5 days. Earth is 6,000 years old and the devil put fossils there to confuse people who don't understand that. God created him and hell for a reason, to punish those who don't believe in him FOR ALL ETERNITY! Genesis, like other creation stories from around the world are factual accounts of what happened thousands of years before the author was born. It's entirely accurate because Moses had the ability to see back in time and witnessed it so he CAN'T be wrong.

"You see science is okay just so long as it doesn't pose a threat to someones religious belief system..."
No, science was NOT OK to the Vatican belief system and it persecuted everyone and anyone who thought "outside the box". It took centuries of indisputable scientific evidence and a telescope to convince them that allegorical stories taken literally was a mistake. Creationists still can't see the light and make lame excuses why science can't convince them they are wrong... like far right ultraconservative Republicans. Hmmm. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson can't convince them, he's a scientist and a nnnn >BONG!<

NQ6U
03-24-2014, 09:40 PM
Of course neee-gros don't stand a chance in science. George Washington Carver (How's THAT for a slave name?) invented the peanut and look where it got us, a bunch of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and JIMMY CARTER. Neil deGrasse Tyson didn't invent the universe, Carl Sagan did, but his adventures in CMOS, A Microchip Oddity pick up where Carl left off. At least he can string a sentence together without using millions and millions for glue. Now you can add his name to the long list of the greatest scientists the world has ever known, Black or otherwise. With his great personality and ability to communicate without complicated and intensely boring Greek equations you can get an education just watching him sleep.

Yeah, creationists are just as whacked out as greenies and Faux Noise, never let facts get in the way of a good story. The universe was created in 6 days by an eternal being who got bored with floating around in a timeless void so he said "Let there be light." and POOF, he could see what he was doing for the next 5 days. Earth is 6,000 years old and the devil put fossils there to confuse people who don't understand that. God created him and hell for a reason, to punish those who don't believe in him FOR ALL ETERNITY! Genesis, like other creation stories from around the world are factual accounts of what happened thousands of years before the author was born. It's entirely accurate because Moses had the ability to see back in time and witnessed it so he CAN'T be wrong.

"You see science is okay just so long as it doesn't pose a threat to someones religious belief system..."
No, science was NOT OK to the Vatican belief system and it persecuted everyone and anyone who thought "outside the box". It took centuries of indisputable scientific evidence and a telescope to convince them that allegorical stories taken literally was a mistake. Creationists still can't see the light and make lame excuses why science can't convince them they are wrong... like far right ultraconservative Republicans. Hmmm. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson can't convince them, he's a scientist and a nnnn >BONG!<

Post o' the Month right there. Thank you, sir.

N2NH
03-25-2014, 11:00 AM
"You see science is okay just so long as it doesn't pose a threat to someones religious belief system..."
No, science was NOT OK to the Vatican belief system and it persecuted everyone and anyone who thought "outside the box". It took centuries of indisputable scientific evidence and a telescope to convince them that allegorical stories taken literally was a mistake. Creationists still can't see the light and make lame excuses why science can't convince them they are wrong... like far right ultraconservative Republicans. Hmmm. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson can't convince them, he's a scientist and a nnnn >BONG!<

I'm no fan of the Catholic Church, but the Vatican isn't the problem and hasn't been for at least a century. The Vatican recognizes Evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution) (groundwork was done by Catholics, including an Augustinian Monk), has it's own astronmical observatories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory), has sent people to see the Large Hadron Collider (http://www.vaticanobservatory.org/about-us/staff-innovations/81-staff-innovations/cern-visit/353-cern-visit) and it was a Catholic priest who first came up with the theory for the Big Bang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre). We are seeing a fundamentalism that is not based on Catholicism, nor mainline Protestantism. It is evangelical usually claims to be Protestant and it is acting as a brake on information to the masses and as a brake to new discoveries.

kb2vxa
03-25-2014, 06:10 PM
I never said the Vatican IS the problem, notice the word "was" in the quote. That's where it all started though, the reason that I mentioned it. Catholicism was, and still is to a large degree, an oppressive religion with a checkered past in which the Inquisition stands out. Hitler, walking in the Pope's footsteps persecuted the Jews too, only he didn't give them a chance to convert to the NAZI religion. Because Catholicism was more oppressive than many know, Martin Luther King nailed his protests to the door of a church and got shot for his beliefs. That didn't stop a thing, in fact his many ghosts haunt Catholics to this day, we bear his legacy, we're Protestants.

OK, I know what you're thinking, but if you think a little harder you'll realize that Martin Luther and Martin Luther King have a lot in common when it comes to freedom. Think of their names, ironic, isn't it?

n2ize
03-25-2014, 07:47 PM
"You see science is okay just so long as it doesn't pose a threat to someones religious belief system..."
No, science was NOT OK to the Vatican belief system and it persecuted everyone and anyone who thought "outside the box". It took centuries of indisputable scientific evidence and a telescope to convince them that allegorical stories taken literally was a mistake. Creationists still can't see the light and make lame excuses why science can't convince them they are wrong... like far right ultraconservative Republicans. Hmmm. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson can't convince them, he's a scientist and a nnnn >BONG!<

My point exactly.

n2ize
03-25-2014, 07:49 PM
Born in Manhattan, raised in the Bronx. It's a miracle he survived at all.

Yes it is. i was killed in the Bronx in 1959... yes in 1959

X-Rated
03-26-2014, 10:58 AM
... Martin Luther King nailed his protests to the door of a church and got shot for his beliefs. That didn't stop a thing, in fact his many ghosts haunt Catholics to this day, we bear his legacy, we're Protestants.

OK, I know what you're thinking, but if you think a little harder you'll realize that Martin Luther and Martin Luther King have a lot in common when it comes to freedom. Think of their names, ironic, isn't it?

So true.

W9JEF
03-26-2014, 11:30 AM
Yes it is. i was killed in the Bronx in 1959... yes in 1959

Sounds interesting.

Tell us a story, John. :)

W9JEF
03-31-2014, 03:24 PM
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On last night's episode, deGrasse Tyson talked about "ghost stars"
we see, which may have burned out before Earth was ever formed.
Pointed out that if it all was only 6,000 years old, as many believe,
we wouldn't be able to see most of the stars, owing to the speed of light.

Later, he mentioned a galaxy whose light we see was
emitted "while our long-tailed ancestors were living in trees."
And from another, "while our ancestors were still in the sea."

What do those Bible-believing folks do
...forbid their kids to watch COSMOS
because science is the Devil's tool?

n2ize
03-31-2014, 10:40 PM
Sounds interesting.

Tell us a story, John. :)

Better yet, I'll post a picture of the place where I was killed.

kb2vxa
04-02-2014, 07:19 PM
Our long tailed ancestors? OH, you mean the ones whose genes weren't modified by...

W9JEF
04-03-2014, 11:47 AM
It takes big antennas--and lots of them.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/cosmic-dawn/images/ESO_ALMA_earlyscience_a.jpg A view of the colliding Antennae galaxies, 70 million light-years from Earth, combines visible light (blue) captured by the Hubble Space Telescope with never before seen swirls of interstellar gas revealed in a test image from the ALMA telescope. COLORIZED COMPOSITE IMAGE: ALMA (ESO/NAOJ/NRAO) AND NASA/ESA HUBBLE TELESCOPE. SOURCE: ESO

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/cosmic-dawn/?utm_source=NatGeocom&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=inside_20140403&utm_campaign=Content

n2ize
04-09-2014, 03:48 AM
Nonsense. The universe was created in 6 days.

kb2vxa
04-09-2014, 07:37 AM
Nonsense? Which came first, the chicken or the egg? The egg of course, everybody knows that chickens hatch from eggs; therefore the universe wasn't created, it hatched from the cosmic egg! http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/139227/cosmic-egg

W9JEF
04-09-2014, 04:58 PM
"The difference between knowledge and stupidity is
that there's a limit to knowledge."
--Albert Einstein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojkAmuRBnc0

W9JEF
04-18-2014, 10:41 AM
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.keystoneprogress.org/images/creationist_cosmos.jpg (http://act.keystoneprogress.org/go/5?t=3&akid=949.207737.8Hxpoc)

(You need to scroll down a ways to get to the video) :)

N2NH
04-20-2014, 08:33 PM
This is friggin' beautiful. "The world is 4.2 Billion Years old."

There are Bible Belters spinning off the planet tonight. :lol:

W9JEF
05-05-2014, 11:04 AM
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Last night's episode was pure anathema to AGW deniers.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/Tyson%20Looking%20at%20Space.jpg Neil Tyson and a universe Fox

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/neil-degrasse-tyson-inquiring-minds-cosmos