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NY4Q
09-02-2013, 06:37 AM
SWEET! Pricy, but sweet.

http://www.palstar.com/en/tr30specifications/

PA5COR
09-02-2013, 07:02 AM
No 160 meters on it, bummer...

KC2UGV
09-02-2013, 08:15 AM
Yeah, 2 grand for a multiband QRP rig? Just a whee bit pricey there.

KB3LAZ
09-02-2013, 08:37 AM
Yeah, 2 grand for a multiband QRP rig? Just a whee bit pricey there.

IKR? The TT Argonaut disappointed me with the lack of a few things, including three bands but its price makes it much more forgivable than this.

I would be more likely to give them $500. For the price they are asking I could get both an Argonaut VI and a KX3. You may give up 8-10w but you gain so much more.

KJ3N
09-02-2013, 08:37 AM
Yeah, 2 grand for a multiband QRP rig? Just a whee bit pricey there.

Where did you find the price?

KB3LAZ
09-02-2013, 08:39 AM
Where did you find the price?

I assume estimated from QRper and eham. From what I have read the estimation given at Dayton was 1500-2000. IMO even on the low end it is more than a bit high.

KJ3N
09-02-2013, 08:44 AM
I assume estimated from QRper and eham. From what I have read the estimation given at Dayton was 1500-2000. IMO even on the low end it is more than a bit high.

For that kind of coin, I'd buy the KX3 first.

KB3LAZ
09-02-2013, 08:49 AM
For that kind of coin, I'd buy the KX3 first.

My thoughts as well. It seems that they are pushing it for use with "high end amps". Not looking at it from a QRP point of view, the loss of more than a few bands is a big "ouch", imo. I see 80-15m which means that 60/12/10/6m are missing. Looking at it overall, it looks to me like they are nearly a decade late to the party with a few modern spins. IE: IF out and touch screen. And that last one is a stretch. Where as touch screen technology is nice in the palm of my hand it is cumbersome on my desktop. Much like windows 8.

OFC, this is only my opinion.

Edit: And 30m.

WØTKX
09-02-2013, 09:05 AM
11 pole filtering tho. Nice. :drool:

But yea K3 or even better, the KX3 for the intended audience.

The YL thinks it has a purty screen. :lol:

KC2UGV
09-02-2013, 11:52 AM
Where did you find the price?


I assume estimated from QRper and eham. From what I have read the estimation given at Dayton was 1500-2000. IMO even on the low end it is more than a bit high.

^^^ There


For that kind of coin, I'd buy the KX3 first.

Exactly. Or even a Flex.

W3WN
09-02-2013, 02:12 PM
Yeah, very odd that several bands are omitted, including 30 meters (a big QRP band) and 10 meters.

Frankly, you can find a used TT Argonaut V for around $800 - 900, sometimes even less, and that gives you everything this rig promises PLUS 160, 30, 12 and 10 meters. (And I think TT made a tactical error in omitting 12 meters from the Argonaut VI)

KB3LAZ
09-02-2013, 04:50 PM
Yeah, very odd that several bands are omitted, including 30 meters (a big QRP band) and 10 meters.

Frankly, you can find a used TT Argonaut V for around $800 - 900, sometimes even less, and that gives you everything this rig promises PLUS 160, 30, 12 and 10 meters. (And I think TT made a tactical error in omitting 12 meters from the Argonaut VI)

I agree. 60m no big deal and I could live without 6m as well. As for me personally I wish I could combine the KX3 and the new TT as they each have features that the other doesn't and I like said features from both. As I only play from my desktop the K3 is the logical choice but that is a lot of cash if going the QRP route.

Not QRP but the Eagle and TS-590 put me in the same boat. On one you give up IF out and on the other you give up a dedicated RX antenna port. Both of which could be remedied but that is beside the point.

In the end most if not all rigs are a compromise in one form or another but that Palstar is just one compromise after another. Well, for me anyway.

N8YX
09-02-2013, 05:04 PM
For $2K I would pick up an IC-7000 and just turn the power down.

KG4NEL
09-02-2013, 05:42 PM
Still, I've always liked the design aesthetic of Palstar stuff.

Would love their autotuner...even if it's about a grand more than anything comparable :mrgreen:

KK4AMI
09-02-2013, 05:49 PM
Yeah, very odd that several bands are omitted, including 30 meters (a big QRP band) and 10 meters.

Frankly, you can find a used TT Argonaut V for around $800 - 900, sometimes even less, and that gives you everything this rig promises PLUS 160, 30, 12 and 10 meters. (And I think TT made a tactical error in omitting 12 meters from the Argonaut VI)

I'm all for the Argonaut V. Might be cheaper like $600 to $750. Best little all purpose desktop ham station!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ten-Tec-TenTec-Argonaut-V-QRP-HF-Transceiver-Model-516-Excellent-/331009315201?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Transceivers&hash=item4d11b15181

KB3LAZ
09-02-2013, 05:54 PM
For $2K I would pick up an IC-7000 and just turn the power down.

Ah but then one has temptation. :P

KG4NEL
09-02-2013, 05:58 PM
Ah but then one has temptation. :P

And I don't know about the '7000, but the 706MKIIG went omnomnom on any battery it was connected to :snicker: Learned that lesson the hard way at Field Day one year.

KJ3N
09-02-2013, 06:07 PM
And I don't know about the '7000, but the 706MKIIG went omnomnom on any battery it was connected to :snicker: Learned that lesson the hard way at Field Day one year.

The 7000 is no different. It's not the radio I would use in the field without an endless supply of 13.8VDC. That's why I have an IC-703 for QRP and battery operation.

NY4Q
09-03-2013, 01:03 PM
I don't care for the missing HF areas as well, but its a cute little feller.

KB3LAZ
09-03-2013, 04:54 PM
I don't care for the missing HF areas as well, but its a cute little feller.

It isn't the lack of bands that throws me off, it is the estimated price. On the low end it is 3x more than what I would be willing to pay for such a rig with its given options.

NY4Q
09-04-2013, 06:00 AM
It isn't the lack of bands that throws me off, it is the estimated price. On the low end it is 3x more than what I would be willing to pay for such a rig with its given options.

Oh yes, it's waaaaay too expensive for the package.