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K9CCH
08-02-2013, 01:45 AM
I would love to do something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yyS5qm60gk
But the only mountains around here are these...
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:sadwave:
Chris.... make an excuse to come to Tucson..... mountaintopping is fun
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 03:19 AM
As soon as my sisters wedding is over in October, Kenny and I are planning some serious road trips. I have a Jeep, and a tent, and by God I do plan to use them extremely soon!!!!
See if you can get permission to set up a rooftop DXpedition on one of those buildings.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 08:17 AM
Chris.... make an excuse to come to Tucson..... mountaintopping is fun
A trip up to Mt Lemmon would blow his mind. We used to do keggers there.
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 08:45 AM
Broadcasting?
wa6mhz
08-02-2013, 09:31 AM
I did one better. I MOVED to a mountaintop so I can VHF Contest from home!
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:37 AM
Broadcasting?
More like broadchasing.
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 12:24 PM
See if you can get permission to set up a rooftop DXpedition on one of those buildings.
One of our locals has a repeater on top of the tallest. I wonder if he'd bring me up there?...
kb2vxa
08-02-2013, 02:07 PM
There's a phrase that's older than dirt; it doesn't hurt to ask. There is a catch though, mountains, towers and tall buildings aren't called vertical real estate for nothing; you'll be smack dab in the middle of an intense RF field generated by an antenna farm. RF exposure limits pertain to receivers more than to you, you'll need bandpass filters to get rid of intermod that would render the effort futile. It seems like the best products come from Canada, a diplexer made to my specs by Tin Lee works better than expected but what you need are bandpass filters and my DCI-146-4H I still have kicking around somewhere fixed a knotty pager problem for me quick and easy. When I set up my first station 2M was crap from end to end thanks to a 250W Pager a block away. That filter killed it clean and solved my problem. I quickly discovered the best mountain tops were antenna farms, brought the filter along and again it was clear sailing. They have a filter for whatever ails you, here are the stock Amateur filters submitted for your approval... in The RF Twilight Zone.
http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur
When you get to the roof it just might look something like this familiar building so be a boy scout and be prepared.
wa6mhz
08-02-2013, 02:10 PM
I use one of the DCI Dualband filters in the Town Car, cuz I was just BLASTED by Pagers whenever I drove through EL Cajon with my new Icom IC-2720H. It was absolutely WORTHLESS. Nevermind that the Filter cost almost as much as the Radio did. It Fixed the problem forever!
When you get to the roof it just might look something like this familiar building so be a boy scout and be prepared.
Prepared, as in "wear a parachute."
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 02:43 PM
Prepared, as in "wear a parachute."
And lead-lined underwear.
I did one better. I MOVED to a mountaintop so I can VHF Contest from home!
Pat....Crest is on a SPEED BUMP!!!!!Not a mountain.
A trip up to Mt Lemmon would blow his mind. We used to do keggers there.
Exactly where I'd have Chris go. Sans keg, however.
KG4CGC
08-02-2013, 03:22 PM
Kegs are kind of big and cumbersome. Cooler on wheels. Strap the batteries on top.
I've often had to drag a cooler and a large Samsonite tackle box on wheels for hundreds of yards to get to the center of a peninsula to do some fishing from a specific spot on the lake. -Now you need a boat to get to it due to all the rain we've had for the past 2 months.
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 03:24 PM
There is a catch though, mountains, towers and tall buildings aren't called vertical real estate for nothing; you'll be smack dab in the middle of an intense RF field generated by an antenna farm. RF exposure limits pertain to receivers more than to you, you'll need bandpass filters to get rid of intermod that would render the effort futile. .
Its funny you mention that. I just returned from the radio supply store and I had my Baofeng with me. On the way home I was listening to my local repeater and the signal was absolutely 100% clean. As I started my incline over the Houston shipping channel bridge I noticed the higher I got the more the signal dropped out. By the time I got to the top it was skipping out and a lot of static and just a bunch or garble. Then as I declined on the other side, the signal started to come back, and by the time I was back on ground level it was back to being crystal clear. It was the strangest thing I've noticed yet.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 03:32 PM
Kegs are kind of big and cumbersome. Cooler on wheels. Strap the batteries on top.
I've often had to drag a cooler and a large Samsonite tackle box on wheels for hundreds of yards to get to the center of a peninsula to do some fishing from a specific spot on the lake. -Now you need a boat to get to it due to all the rain we've had for the past 2 months.
Boats are good, especially when you have a good reason; and yours qualifies. You may be able to get FEMA to pay for it. I wonder if formaldehyde floats?
KG4CGC
08-02-2013, 03:45 PM
Formaldehyde disperses in water.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 03:53 PM
Well, there you go.
WØTKX
08-02-2013, 05:18 PM
Formaldehyde disperses in water.
I thought you kept your frogs alive. :irked:
KG4CGC
08-02-2013, 05:28 PM
I thought you kept your frogs alive. :irked:
When was a kid, I made bug frames. Knock the bugs out with a little chloroform, stick the needles in them and mount then on the board, inject formaldehyde gas into the frame and seal. That would kill them while they were out.
Store in garage then leave in the Sun for a day before hanging on wall.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 07:21 PM
Sounds like what that mean old lady down the street tried to do with us when we were kids.
kb2vxa
08-02-2013, 08:25 PM
"As I started my incline over the Houston shipping channel bridge I noticed the higher I got the more the signal dropped out."
1) If it was a steel lattice structure it could have caused reflections resulting in multipath reception. When two or more signals of the same frequency arrive out of phase they tend to cancel each other, could have been severe "picket fencing". But more likely...
2) Bridges too are vertical real estate, you could have been getting creamed by strong signals desensitizing your receiver.
Once upon a time there was a 2M repeater on the George Washington Bridge affectionately known as the Gee Dub, the owner went SK and in time the controller got stuck. 24/7/365 dead carrier, no ID and no way to stop it, nobody knew where in that maze of steel it was. Eventually it was found and taken down, meanwhile in the NYC/NNJ metro area the frequency was useless.
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 08:53 PM
1) If it was a steel lattice structure it could have caused reflections resulting in multipath reception. When two or more signals of the same frequency arrive out of phase they tend to cancel each other, could have been severe "picket fencing". But more likely...
2) Bridges too are vertical real estate, you could have been getting creamed by strong signals desensitizing your receiver.
Once upon a time there was a 2M repeater on the George Washington Bridge affectionately known as the Gee Dub, the owner went SK and in time the controller got stuck. 24/7/365 dead carrier, no ID and no way to stop it, nobody knew where in that maze of steel it was. Eventually it was found and taken down, meanwhile in the NYC/NNJ metro area the frequency was useless.
This is the bridge.
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:01 PM
You should have been singing this as you went over the bridge. It's like having the password for WIFI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfi2ts2s7dc
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:02 PM
I think I've flown under that bridge.
W5BRM
08-02-2013, 09:04 PM
Is that the bridge on I610 down by Laporte fwy?
I was just down there and crossed that bridge the day before yesterday in the big truck at rush hour. I LOVE the view from atop it. I've never had good coverage on that thing on V/UHF. Dont know what its made of so cant give u a reason but I can definitely verify the effects
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:05 PM
I think I've flown under that bridge.
That's funny. A friend of mine flew his plane through the arches in St Louis. The FAA has been looking for him for years. Too bad, he's dead.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:14 PM
That's funny. A friend of mine flew his plane through the arches in St Louis. The FAA has been looking for him for years. Too bad, he's dead.
That's what taping the tail number is all about. Or is it the hokie pokie?
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:18 PM
That's what taping the tail number is all about. Or is it the hokie pokie?
He worked for the FAA, and was drunk.......... Flying......
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:20 PM
He worked for the FAA, and was drunk.......... Flying......
Oooops. Not a good mix. Hopefully he wasn't an AI.
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:21 PM
No, he didn't believe in AI (artificial insemination), he was Catholic.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:31 PM
No, he didn't believe in AI (artificial insemination), he was Catholic.
I thought Catholics had God for a copilot.
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:33 PM
I thought Catholics had God for a copilot.
Nah, bartender. That's why they say (during tequila shots) "Oh GOD that burns".
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:36 PM
Nah, bartender. That's why they say (during tequila shots) "Oh GOD that burns".
I think I said the same thing the first time a lit a fart in the bathtub.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:45 PM
I think I said the same thing the first time a lit a fart in the bathtub.
Speaking of farts in bathtubs, where's da Pope?
Speaking of farts in bathtubs, where's da Pope?
Farting in the bathtub. Youse got a problem widdat?
Da Pope
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:48 PM
Farting in the bathtub. Youse got a problem widdat?
Da Pope
Why, no. No I don't. Isn't that considered a blessed event?
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:50 PM
The external flame of hope
Why, no. No I don't. Isn't that considered a blessed event?
It is when you're in the tub with Sister Mary Margaret. I've been saying "Oh my God oh my God oh my God" for the last twenty minutes.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:51 PM
The external flame of hope
Well, when I got done, it looked more like the BP oil spill.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:52 PM
It is when you're in the tub with Sister Mary Margaret. I've been saying "Oh my God oh my God oh my God" for the last twenty minutes.
I like the ways she pulls on the drain plug.
I like the ways she pulls on the drain plug.
Huh, that's what you call it, eh? Learn something new every day.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:56 PM
Huh, that's what you call it, eh? Learn something new every day.
When you see her, tell her she left a ring in the tub.
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 09:57 PM
When you see her, tell her she left a ring in the tub.
Whoa!!!!!! That's my ring.
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Whoa!!!!!! That's my ring.
GOOMFT
NA4BH
08-02-2013, 10:09 PM
GOOMFT
Is that Cuniform?
K7SGJ
08-02-2013, 10:20 PM
Is that Cuniform?
No, I'm a non cuniformist
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 10:47 PM
Is that the bridge on I610 down by Laporte fwy?
I was just down there and crossed that bridge the day before yesterday in the big truck at rush hour. I LOVE the view from atop it. I've never had good coverage on that thing on V/UHF. Dont know what its made of so cant give u a reason but I can definitely verify the effects
Yes. 610 @ 225.
K9CCH
08-02-2013, 10:49 PM
I think I said the same thing the first time a lit a fart in the bathtub.
ROTFLMAO!!!? I THINK I JUST PISSED MYSELF!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
kb2vxa
08-03-2013, 11:52 AM
"This is the bridge."
I had to back up several pages to find that, once somebody farts in the bathtub things get crazy, especially since the bridge so well keeps secrets.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/iguana-fart/
Broadcasting?Sorry I'm late to the thread, but that's the first thing I noticed too.
Chris, FYI, and no offense intended or implied: Hams don't broadcast. Hams transmit.
I know this sounds picayune, but it's a pet peeve of mine. Broadcasting is the one-way transmission of information intended for reception by the general public. US stations in the Amateur Radio service under FCC jurisdiction are not by law permitted to broadcast, and have not been since broadcast station licensing started back in the early 1920's.
...and anytime you'd like to transmit from mountaintops, well, there are a few around here. Mt. Washington overlooking Pittsburgh is always a great vantage point (just don't get too close to the B94 transmitter... excuse me, KDKA-FM 93.7 MHz, overlooking the West End circle). To say nothing of the Laurel Highlands about an hour east of here. Make the trip, I'll even loan you my Argonaut (505) for a little HF QRP hilltopping as well...
ROTFLMAO!!!? I THINK I JUST PISSED MYSELF!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!Oh dear.
Please clean up before you come to a hamfest, will ya? :twisted:
KG4CGC
08-03-2013, 12:51 PM
Oh dear.
Please clean up before you come to a hamfest, will ya? :twisted:
Wait a minute. He has to fit in, right?
Wait a minute. He has to fit in, right?Not at my club's.
500 hams in an indoor hamfest in February? It could get ugly, smell wise... thing is, the VFD's rental hall is located above a tributary of Saw Mill Run. So if you show up at our 'fest in need of bathing, you get chucked into the creek with a bar of soap.
Bubba
08-04-2013, 12:53 AM
ROTFLMAO!!!? I THINK I JUST PISSED MYSELF!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Who is that ?
KG4CGC
08-04-2013, 01:14 AM
Not at my club's.
500 hams in an indoor hamfest in February? It could get ugly, smell wise... thing is, the VFD's rental hall is located above a tributary of Saw Mill Run. So if you show up at our 'fest in need of bathing, you get chucked into the creek with a bar of soap.
Is there a desert llama? There's a nomadic tribe in Africa that bathes in llama urine.
Is there a desert llama? There's a nomadic tribe in Africa that bathes in llama urine.
No...but I suspect there's a Drama Llama or two lurking on our shores...
KG4CGC
08-04-2013, 01:40 AM
No...but I suspect there's a Drama Llama or two lurking on our shores...
Well, some type of desert bovine. Not a llama. I can see it in my mind from that time when I was 9 and I watched a National Geographic special on Nomadic African Tribes of the Desert.
According to the Wikipedia, llamas are strictly a South American genus. If some African group is using them, they would have had to have been imported sometime between roughly 1500 CE and now.
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 09:57 AM
In the SW desert, would they not be called, yamas?
In the SW desert, would they not be called, yamas?
Fernando Lamas?
http://www.born-today.com/btpix/lamas_fernando.jpg
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 10:10 AM
Fernando Lamas?
http://www.born-today.com/btpix/lamas_fernando.jpg
They named one of those San type valleys near you after him, no? San Lamas Valley, or something like that?
They named one of those San type valleys near you after him, no? San Lamas Valley, or something like that?
Like, totally for sure for sure.
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 10:42 AM
Gnarly dude.
Like, gag me with a spoon.
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 11:28 AM
It's, like, tooooooooooooo bitchin.
No, it's groty. Groty to the max.
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 11:42 AM
I'm sure, I'm so sure, I mean, it's really tubular, man.
WØTKX
08-04-2013, 11:55 AM
New World and Old World camel(ids)s diverged over 10 million years ago, hybrids can be produced.
Bovines are cows. I believe it was a urine hair rinse, IIRC. Changes the hair color, some sort of fertility thing?
You can produce electricity from pee. :yes: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/08/urine-powered-generator/
KG4CGC
08-04-2013, 12:15 PM
New World and Old World camel(ids)s diverged over 10 million years ago, hybrids can be produced.
Bovines are cows. I believe it was a urine hair rinse, IIRC. Changes the hair color, some sort of fertility thing?
You can produce electricity from pee. :yes: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/08/urine-powered-generator/
They bathed in it. Washed their hands in it. Maybe it was some kind of deer.
WØTKX
08-04-2013, 12:21 PM
Do Republicons shower in elephant urine?
Oooopsie, was that a troll? :omg:
K7SGJ
08-04-2013, 01:52 PM
New World and Old World camel(ids)s diverged over 10 million years ago, hybrids can be produced.
Bovines are cows. I believe it was a urine hair rinse, IIRC. Changes the hair color, some sort of fertility thing?
You can produce electricity from pee. :yes: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/08/urine-powered-generator/
Meh. I can produce pee from electricity. Just stick your tongue in a lamp socket, and viola', check your britches..
kb2vxa
08-04-2013, 07:01 PM
There is a device known as a slimatron, invented by Timtron, WA1HLR. It starts out as pissoline and in time is distilled into heavy pissolene, an unclassified bit of material that lies somewhere between hazmat and nuclear waste. One caution should you decide to make a slimatron, for educational purposes you know, when the heavy pissolene turns back run like hell, the slimatron is about to explode.
http://www.hfunderground.com/wiki/Slimatron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m76n9j1Dv8
Never could figure out the fascination over that whole pissolene thing. It seems rather juvenile to me.
KG4NEL
08-04-2013, 07:34 PM
According to the Wikipedia, llamas are strictly a South American genus. If some African group is using them, they would have had to have been imported sometime between roughly 1500 CE and now.
Big hitter, the Lama...
WØTKX
08-04-2013, 07:55 PM
Pissolene beats the usual .313 discourse. :lol:
K9CCH
08-05-2013, 12:10 AM
Chris, FYI, and no offense intended or implied: Hams don't broadcast. Hams transmit.
Ill file that away with the others...like,
-you pluck a chicken, you tweeze your eyebrows
-you paint a house, you polish your nails
-and you wash your clothes, you shampoo your hair.
(beauty school dropout)
K9CCH
08-05-2013, 12:13 AM
Fernando Lamas?
http://www.born-today.com/btpix/lamas_fernando.jpg
Lorenzo Lamas... WOOF!
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K9CCH
08-05-2013, 12:15 AM
Like, totally for sure for sure.
Gnarly dude.
It's, like, tooooooooooooo bitchin.
No, it's groty. Groty to the max.
I'm sure, I'm so sure, I mean, it's really tubular, man.
Barf me out!
I literally, I mean literally, like literally LOL'd!
Bubba
08-05-2013, 01:32 AM
WTF is going on here peeps ?
WTF is going on here peeps ?Consider it a stream of consciousness thread. Just go with it.
And Peeps are out of season right now. They're an Easter item.
As soon as my sisters wedding is over in October, Kenny and I are planning some serious road trips. I have a Jeep, and a tent, and by Go d I do plan to use them extremely soon!!!!
I'd say try the Catskills or the Adirondacks but the mountains here are hills compared to the ones in the West. The highest of the Appalachian range are in North Carolina and Tennessee in the Smoky Mountains. The very remote Adirondack area has been not-so-affectionately called the Siberia of North America. In the winter, there are times when they are colder than Alaska. It has at times reached -80oF. The Catskills aren't as remote but many of the roads close during the fall-winter making areas of the park inaccessible. The Gunks, which are much easier to reach, has some of the best rock climbing east of the Mississippi River. You can still do some great mountain-topping though despite this if you have a bit of outdoorsman/woman in you. Repeaters here have better range than I thought they would thanks to the elevation and lucky line-of-sight.
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/234/cache/gunks-new-york-climb_23497_600x450.jpg
Lorenzo Lamas... WOOF!
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A pair of llamas...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jz8e0PvnK3E/TLYpVV00REI/AAAAAAAAAPo/FxEYs3yfNko/s400/Homepage.jpg
K9CCH
08-05-2013, 01:30 PM
A pair of llamas...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jz8e0PvnK3E/TLYpVV00REI/AAAAAAAAAPo/FxEYs3yfNko/s400/Homepage.jpg
you sure those aren't alpacas?
you sure those aren't alpacas?
How's this one strike you?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpxTSXCq0Py-XM5S0Ro-jQPLfFgjOxHST3arkMQlyOM1X_yPlJ (https://forums.hamisland.net/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=jz9tOHmDq5QxEM&tbnid=LKn2WakZ0Dqi0M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickriver.com%2Fphotos%2F339 17494%40N06%2Fsets%2F72157617514456491%2F&ei=Y_f_Ueb8Coz8yAGCloDgCw&psig=AFQjCNHxGcFA9mdLR7f-wkBZ4Yvla2-ipg&ust=1375815898406967)
you sure those aren't alpacas?
You'll pack her? I dunno if they'd like that.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTflPMCopBWIOyw_vnQ5tAix5jNOmUi7-f-zM04vGjJeHm72pUY
KG4NEL
08-05-2013, 10:55 PM
you sure those aren't alpacas?
Definitely look llama-ish.
My neighbors have alpacas, and they're much shaggier up top.
They also made some of the most hideous noises you'll hear.
Consider it a stream of consciousness thread. Just go with it.
And Peeps are out of season right now. They're an Easter item.
What do you know about Easter, station? You're from g.d. uh, uh...
I guess the 'Apocalypse Now' quote doesn't quite fit here...
K9CCH
08-05-2013, 11:43 PM
You'll pack her? I dunno if they'd like that.
I wouldn't even begin to know how to to pack that. I've never packed anything like that in my life. I don't think I've ever seen one in real life either.
I swore off vajayjay after puberty. They dont come with enough instructions.
NA4BH
08-05-2013, 11:46 PM
I wouldn't even begin to know how to to pack that. I've never packed anything like that in my life. I don't think I've ever seen one in real life either.
I swore off vajayjay after puberty. They dont come with enough instructions.
If you need to get packed, let Al-Pack-Ya.
Bubba
08-06-2013, 01:18 AM
Definitely look llama-ish.
My neighbors have alpacas, and they're much shaggier up top.
They also made some of the most hideous noises you'll hear.
Thats from being packed from Al Packer and Ewe Wacker.
What do you know about Easter, station? You're from g.d. uh, uh...
I guess the 'Apocalypse Now' quote doesn't quite fit here...I married a shiksa. I get immersed in all that ritual every year whether I want to or not.
Besides, the secular stores all carry seasonal items. And it may be a religious season, but it is a season...
Bubba
08-16-2013, 04:35 AM
I married a shiksa. I get immersed in all that ritual every year whether I want to or not.
Besides, the secular stores all carry seasonal items. And it may be a religious season, but it is a season...
Whats a “shiksa” ?
K9CCH
08-16-2013, 05:09 AM
Shiksa (Yiddish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language): שיקסע shikse, Polish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language): sziksa) is a Yiddish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language) and Polish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language) word that has moved into English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) usage, mostly in North American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America) Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) culture, as a term for a non-Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile) woman, initially and sometimes still pejorative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative) but now often usedsatirically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire). Shiksa refers to any non-Jewish (gentile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile)) woman or girl who might be a temptation to Jewish men or boys, e.g., for dating, intermarriage, etc.
Whats a “shiksa” ?The reason my sister has barely acknowledged my existance, let alone talked to me, for the last 23 years.
Yup. A blessing in disguise.
The reason my sister has barely acknowledged my existance, let alone talked to me, for the last 23 years.
Maybe you shouldn't have served beef stroganoff and clam chowder at the wedding?
Maybe you shouldn't have served beef stroganoff and clam chowder at the wedding?Wouldn't have mattered if I did. She didn't attend.
The reason my sister has barely acknowledged my existance, let alone talked to me, for the last 23 years.
Yup. A blessing in disguise.
I was almost Rhoda's goy boy toy once. :yes:
kb2vxa
08-16-2013, 03:55 PM
Shiksa, for a REALLY close shave.
I can drive about eight miles and be at 4800 feet, but to CORNTEST!? wah ha ha - Yeah, suuuuuureeeee.....
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