Dutch firm Arcadis to design N.Y. sea defense.

[PA5COR]

http://www.dutchwatersector.com/news/tag/usa/
Engineering and consultancy firm Arcadis announced it has been hired by the New York Economic Development Corporation (NY EDC) to study various alternatives for flood risk reduction in Lower Manhattan and other areas vulnerable to flooding due to sea level rise and future severe weather events.
The Arcadis studies are scheduled to be complete and presented to the NY EDC over the next several months.

About Arcadis
Arcadis develops, designs, implements, maintains and operates projects for companies and governments. With 21,000 employees and more than $3.2 billion in revenues, the company has an extensive international network supported by strong local market positions.


Engineering and consultancy firm Arcadis has been awarded two contracts to help restore Louisiana’s coastal wetlands. For both projects, Arcadis US will focus on diverting valuable sediments and nutrients from the Mississippi River to start rebuilding the thousands of acres of land now being lost every year.
The two projects together represent a potential capacity of 85,000 cubic feet per second (cfs) of sediment-rich Mississippi River waters to build up to 25,000 acres of wetlands over 50 years.

The other Arcadis US contract is for the Lower Barataria Sediment Diversion Project, part of the state of Louisiana Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority’s larger, 50 billion dollar program of coastal restoration and protection.

Lots more info following the link.

[NQ6U]

Aw, what do the Dutch know about flood control? Besides, this whole global warming thing is a crock, nothing more than a way for scientists to get grant money. It's just natural cycles.

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz79/gyrogeerloose/Square-wheels.jpg

[KK4AMI]

Hey it's only right you protect your own progeny. After all, the Dutch are the parents of New Amsterdam.

By the way, you all make fun of that bicycle, but I hear it has outstanding braking.

[KC2UGV]

Hey it's only right you protect your own progeny. After all, the Dutch are the parents of New Amsterdam.

By the way, you all make fun of that bicycle, but I hear it has outstanding braking.

Very true. The gearing needs some improvement though.

[PA5COR]

That model is ideal for going up or down stairs, just saying.... ;)

[n2ize]

Does dat mean New York will have canals ?

[n2ize]

Very true. The gearing needs some improvement though.





I hear thats the bicycle that people are going to ride into work during blizzards.. :lol:

[kb2vxa]

NYC has a L O N G history of flooding in severe weather and they finally decide to do something NOW?

[KC2UGV]

I hear thats the bicycle that people are going to ride into work during blizzards.. :lol:

No, people ride normal bikes to work in blizzards.

[PA5COR]

People here bike to work in snow with snowtyres fitted to their bikes...
Canals like Amsterdam or my hometown? i bet not, they will find a good solution though we Always do.

[KC2UGV]

People here bike to work in snow with snowtyres fitted to their bikes...
Canals like Amsterdam or my hometown? i bet not, they will find a good solution though we Always do.

John is under the impression it's impossible to do, and only crazy people bike when there's snow on the ground.

[n2ize]

John is under the impression it's impossible to do, and only crazy people bike when there's snow on the ground.

I never said that. I did say that it could be dangerous on some of the very crowded roadways down here where there is very little shoulder to ride on especially when we encounter ice, freezing rain, or slush which is actually the norm for winter down here. And more often the ice, slush, and hard packed wet snow is pushed along the shoulder where bikers would normally ride leaving next to no place to bike except in actual traffic lanes. Even walking is trecherous under these conditions. I remember one very snowy winter we had down here a few years ago. It quickly reached a point where the only place left to walk was in the middle of the streets and every time a car or truck approached you would have to either duck in a driveway, in front of or behind a parked car, or actually climb up onto a mound of hard pack snow-ice to let the car pass. The stuff is so hard packed and rigid that your feet, or bike wheels, don't even sink into it. I wouldn't even attempt a bike under those conditions. And I was an avid. daring, and crazy rider for most of my life.

Not to mention that some of the car drivers here are the most arrogant in the world. If they see you on a bike they treat you like you are not even there. You have to bike very defensively around here.

[n2ize]

People here bike to work in snow with snowtyres fitted to their bikes...
Canals like Amsterdam or my hometown? i bet not, they will find a good solution though we Always do.

Canals would be cool though. I could just picture Canal Street actually being a canal.

Well, the Dutch should be able to do a good job of dealing with the flooding we get here. Not only did they build most of NYC but they have long experience with building around water and preventing flooding.

[KC2UGV]

leaving next to no place to bike except in actual traffic lanes.

I'm not seeing an issue there. Bikes can ride in actual traffic lanes everyday, and should.

[NA4BH]

:hijack:

[PA5COR]

:hijack:

Standard procedure on the Island isn't it ?
Tomorrow we have a country wide party the Queen abdicates and King Willem Alexander will take the reighn.

[NQ6U]

:hijack:

Island Style, man, Island Style. :cool2:

[kb2vxa]

"Not to mention that some of the car drivers here are the most arrogant in the world. If they see you on a bike they treat you like you are not even there. You have to bike very defensively around here."
Same here, thank goodness we don't get much snow but still my bike with knobby tires sees me through.

"Canals would be cool though. I could just picture Canal Street actually being a canal."
It was when Wall Street was a seawall at the southern end of Manhattan. The lake in Central Park was the city water supply and there were farms uptown, this 1873 post card shows a very different city.

[n2ize]

I'm not seeing an issue there. Bikes can ride in actual traffic lanes everyday, and should.

Really. So you have a 55 mph traffic lane and you are going to have a backup of thousands of cars because a bicycle is doing 15 mph in the middle of what is normally a 55 mph traffic lane ? And I think NYS law requires bikes to ride with traffic and off to the side so that faster moving vehicles can pass. I had to ride like that most of the time. And with some of the drivers we have around here you don't want to ride in the middle of traffic. Unless you want to end up under an SUV.

[N2NH]

No, people ride normal bikes to work in blizzards.

The Alpine Racing team had a better idea...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/12/ktrak-skibike.jpg

Sooo... NYC finally thought, we should really do something about flooding. Which will not help at all with the next mess. Hope they also figure out that the Long Island Sound has to be dealt with too...

[KC2UGV]

Really. So you have a 55 mph traffic lane and you are going to have a backup of thousands of cars because a bicycle is doing 15 mph in the middle of what is normally a 55 mph traffic lane ? And I think NYS law requires bikes to ride with traffic and off to the side so that faster moving vehicles can pass. I had to ride like that most of the time. And with some of the drivers we have around here you don't want to ride in the middle of traffic. Unless you want to end up under an SUV.

Seeing as I don't believe any 55 mph roads are under 2 lanes (Or, with a dotted yellow line, in the case of more rural routes), I'm not seeing that happen. But, if it were, then yes, there would be backups. I suppose it's the price autos pay for using the roads made for bicycles *snicker* (Give this book a read: http://www.roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/)

And, in NYS, bicyclist are to ride AFRAP (As far right as possible), and to use the provided turning lanes, just like autos (Bicycles can cross traffic lanes, just like cars, to turn); and can ride up to two abreast, which generally places them as far as the middle of the furthest right lane.

If car drivers don't want a cyclist riding in the traffic (As allowed), and then runs over them, then the problem is with the car driver, not the cyclist.


The Alpine Racing team had a better idea...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/12/ktrak-skibike.jpg

Sooo... NYC finally thought, we should really do something about flooding. Which will not help at all with the next mess. Hope they also figure out that the Long Island Sound has to be dealt with too...

That's kind neat :P

[n2ize]

Seeing as I don't believe any 55 mph roads are under 2 lanes (Or, with a dotted yellow line, in the case of more rural routes), I'm not seeing that happen. But, if it were, then yes, there would be backups. I suppose it's the price autos pay for using the roads made for bicycles *snicker* (Give this book a read: http://www.roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/)

And, in NYS, bicyclist are to ride AFRAP (As far right as possible), and to use the provided turning lanes, just like autos (Bicycles can cross traffic lanes, just like cars, to turn); and can ride up to two abreast, which generally places them as far as the middle of the furthest right lane.

If car drivers don't want a cyclist riding in the traffic (As allowed), and then runs over them, then the problem is with the car driver, not the cyclist.



That's kind neat :P

Let's face it. If a couple of cyclists are backing up the Long Island Expressway, or the Gowanis, or the Cross Bronx for miles on end the cops are going to insist they move out of the way. Perhaps idealistically it should be such that bicycles should get first preference and cars and trucks and fire engines and cop cars should just have to patiently wait for the bicyclists to reach their destination. But then there is reality and one thing I learned in life is reality almost always wins, especially if that reality falls into the way of life pof a majority.

[n2ize]

Here's another tidbit of reality. During the summer they close a nearby highway to all cars and open it up for bicyclists for several hours on Sundays. When the highway reopens for cars the highway patrol roams up and down the highway warning all cyclists to get off the highway. That includes riding in the traffic lanes or up on the shoulder. If you don;t clear the highway they will pull you over and escort you off at the nearest exit.

Fortunately there is a bike path not too far away that runs parallel to the highway. Much safer.

[KC2UGV]

Here's another tidbit of reality. During the summer they close a nearby highway to all cars and open it up for bicyclists for several hours on Sundays. When the highway reopens for cars the highway patrol roams up and down the highway warning all cyclists to get off the highway. That includes riding in the traffic lanes or up on the shoulder. If you don;t clear the highway they will pull you over and escort you off at the nearest exit.

Fortunately there is a bike path not too far away that runs parallel to the highway. Much safer.

Because normally, bicycles are not allowed on highways. On regular streets, however, they are allowed.

[n2ize]

Because normally, bicycles are not allowed on highways. On regular streets, however, they are allowed.

Yeah, on regular streets it's fine. I always used to ride on regular streets and just move to the side when a car was coming up.

[KC2UGV]

Yeah, on regular streets it's fine. I always used to ride on regular streets and just move to the side when a car was coming up.

So, what's the problem here? Nobody is suggesting taking bicycles on interstates here...