View Full Version : So Much for Instant Replay in Baseball
OK, so imagine the situation...
You're sitting in the front row, outfield seats in Right Field. Bottom of the 7th, man on first, 2 outs.
Batter hits the ball, comes sailing right at you... you try to catch the ball, but it bounces out of your hands and back onto the field.
Now, this is important: You never got out of your seat, it happened so fast. So you are clearly behind the railing. Oh, and your seat is about 25 - 30 feet above the field.
So, is this hit:
(a) A Home Run, since it cleared the rail
(b) A Book Rule Double, since it appeared to the umpires to hit the rail (on the field side) and bounce back in
(c) Fan Interference
Initial ruling on the field... (b) Double. Runner scores from first since there are two outs, he's running on contact.
Home manager comes out, argues that it was a home run, requests video review. Umps confer, decide to review the video. Home TV viewers are shown multiple replays, clearly showing the fan's hands being hit, that he's not leaning over the rail & hasn't left his seat.
No brainer, right?
After a 4 minute review, the umpires rule: Fan Interference. Batter is credited with a Book Rule double, but the runner from 1st is NOT put back on base... if it's by rule, he can only advance 2 bases, not 3... and the run is left in place.
And the best part? Since it's ruled Fan Interference, ballpark security removes the fan from his seat and he's escorted out of the park.
Now, how's THAT for adding insult to injury?
(Incidentally, the player who got screwed out of his first HR of the season did score after a single by the next batter, and the home team rallyed from a 5 - 0 deficit going into the 7th to win 10 - 7.)
XE1/N5AL
04-14-2013, 07:23 PM
Wow, I hope the poor fan's name wasn't Steve Bartman!
Wow, I hope the poor fan's name wasn't Steve Bartman!Nope.
Besides, unlike poor Mr. Bartman, the home team won the game...
On Edit: Here's a link to the video, see for yourself: http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=26283121&topic_id=8879096&c_id=pit (They don't show the review in the clip, but watch carefully where the ball goes over the fence)
K7SGJ
04-14-2013, 09:36 PM
How's your hand, still hurt?
KG4CGC
04-15-2013, 02:07 PM
Only time I was ever thrown out of a ballgame was during minor league play when Atlanta had their G'Braves in Greenville. My buddy and I started up with, "FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP!" After a string of blatantly bad calls and the whole stadium, both young and old alike (very old, geezerly I must say) began to chant with us! Imagine an entire minor league stadium filled to 3/4ths capacity all looking at the umpire as he glared back, with all of us at him yelling, "FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP!" The "ump" called in a pair of rent a cops to the field and as we were all standing and yelling, he pointed at us. As soon as we were identified, the rent a cops ran towards us and the second they grabbed us and tried to rough house us, the entire stadium started booing!
We were Legends at that point as we were escorted out the crowd started with "FUCK THE COPS! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE COPS! FUCK THE UMP!" This continued as we got into our car and we could still hear the crowd as we pulled away from the parking lot!
The next day the local newspaper wrote about a pair of hooligans who incited the crowd to near riot. What a freakin' joke! Immediately following this game, a strong police presence became a permanent fixture at all games. Word of the incident spread quickly and became the topic of many letters to the editor both for and against our, "shenanigans." The shenanigans were really on the part of the ump who was later discovered to be taking "favors" from an outside group that shall remain nameless. HOWEVER, this umpire's indiscretions were nothing compared to how they managed to get an even larger stadium built right in downtown Greenville!
ETA: The year was 1989.
K7SGJ
04-15-2013, 10:25 PM
Only time I was ever thrown out of a ballgame was during minor league play when Atlanta had their G'Braves in Greenville. My buddy and I started up with, "FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP!" After a string of blatantly bad calls and the whole stadium, both young and old alike (very old, geezerly I must say) began to chant with us! Imagine an entire minor league stadium filled to 3/4ths capacity all looking at the umpire as he glared back, with all of us at him yelling, "FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE UMP!" The "ump" called in a pair of rent a cops to the field and as we were all standing and yelling, he pointed at us. As soon as we were identified, the rent a cops ran towards us and the second they grabbed us and tried to rough house us, the entire stadium started booing!
We were Legends at that point as we were escorted out the crowd started with "FUCK THE COPS! FUCK THE UMP! FUCK THE COPS! FUCK THE UMP!" This continued as we got into our car and we could still hear the crowd as we pulled away from the parking lot!
The next day the local newspaper wrote about a pair of hooligans who incited the crowd to near riot. What a freakin' joke! Immediately following this game, a strong police presence became a permanent fixture at all games. Word of the incident spread quickly and became the topic of many letters to the editor both for and against our, "shenanigans." The shenanigans were really on the part of the ump who was later discovered to be taking "favors" from an outside group that shall remain nameless. HOWEVER, this umpire's indiscretions were nothing compared to how they managed to get an even larger stadium built right in downtown Greenville!
ETA: The year was 1989.
I read about that. The article said you weren't thrown out for chanting "fuck the ump, fuck the cops", you were ejected for actually TRYING TO fuck the ump and the cops. It's a fine line.
NA4BH
04-15-2013, 10:34 PM
I read about that. The article said you weren't thrown out for chanting "fuck the ump, fuck the cops", you were ejected for actually TRYING TO fuck the ump and the cops. It's a fine line.
They don't call it a dead ball foul for nothin'.
WØTKX
04-15-2013, 10:36 PM
At a Twins game in the 70's my cousins and I were on the 3rd base line, front row seats courtesy of our Grandpa.
Rollie Fingers ran after an infield pop fly as the third baseman and catcher were busy with runners heading home.
We started screaming DROP IT! DROP IT! He caught the ball, gave us an evil grin.
This matched his "Snidely Whiplash 'stache", he then flipped "the bird" at us, shielded with the glove .
We thought it was hilarious, Grandpa was mortified.
K7SGJ
04-15-2013, 10:42 PM
Third base
At a Twins game in the 70's my cousins and I were on the 3rd base line, front row. Rollie Fingers ran after an infield pop fly as the third baseman and catcher were busy with runners heading home. We started screaming DROP IT! DROP IT!
He caught the ball, gave us an evil grin to match his "Snidely Whiplash "stache", and then flipped us "the bird".
We thought it was hilarious, Grandpa was mortified.
Cool story.
Rollie was da bomb. I remember we all cut class (High School) in 1972 to hear (not watch) the A's win the final game of the World Series. I still have my Longines Symphonette radio I used that day.
No one in Fremont, CA got busted for cutting class for celebrating the World Series win.
Third base
I'll see your third base and raise you a saguaro.
NA4BH
04-15-2013, 10:58 PM
LOL
http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/21/2175/HRVCD00Z.jpg
VE7DCW
04-15-2013, 11:12 PM
LOL
http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/21/2175/HRVCD00Z.jpg
Cactus league ......... figures! :lol:
WØTKX
04-15-2013, 11:57 PM
Prick
ers!
suddenseer
04-16-2013, 10:54 AM
Being a young Red's fan during the Big Red Machine daze, I have no point of reference to all of these bawdy shenanigans mentioned so far. :evil: On edit, I don't follow major leauge any more since the last strike. I heard they are thinking of bringing the DH rule to the national Leauge? This is my feeble attempt to start a "code/no code" troll here. :twisted:
Being a young Red's fan during the Big Red Machine daze, I have no point of reference to all of these bawdy shenanigans mentioned so far. :evil: On edit, I don't follow major leauge any more since the last strike. I heard they are thinking of bringing the DH rule to the national Leauge? This is my feeble attempt to start a "code/no code" troll here. :twisted:
No kidding. May the ghost of NY sportswriter Dick Young smite you...
The DH is an abomination in the eyes of the LORD.
The DH is an abomination in the eyes of the LORD.
National League purist. A pox on you.
National League purist. A pox on you.
I hate interleague play, too.
The DH is an abomination in the eyes of the LORD.And Steve Blass.:bowdown:
And, yes, there is some noise in the online press that since inter-league play is now nothing special, the NL should abandon their no-DH posture. Sacriledge! Sacriledge I tell you!
Baseball is played with 9 men in the field, and the other team bats with their 9 men. Not 10.
The DH IS an abomination & must be destroyed.
I hate interleague play, too.Thanks to Bud Selig insisting on the Astros moving to the AL as part of their sale, we're stuck with it.
Besides, if you were going to move any one franchise, it would have made more sense to move the Brewers back to the AL where they came from.
But then, what else would you expect from the man who stole the Seattle Pilots from Seattle?
A double pox on Bud Selig, too.
K7SGJ
04-16-2013, 07:17 PM
I hate interleague play, too.
Hey, hey, hey. What people do in their own bedroom should be no concern of a holy man, such as yourself. However, if you should come across some videos, make me a copy.
VE7DCW
04-17-2013, 12:31 AM
Thanks to Bud Selig insisting on the Astros moving to the AL as part of their sale, we're stuck with it.
Besides, if you were going to move any one franchise, it would have made more sense to move the Brewers back to the AL where they came from.
But then, what else would you expect from the man who stole the Seattle Pilots from Seattle?
A double pox on Bud Selig, too.
Yikes!!....... Harsh! ....... I can cheer a team as the Montreal Expo's.... but one crash and burns when one moves a team and calls it the Washington Senators :yuck:
Yikes!!....... Harsh! ....... I can cheer a team as the Montreal Expo's.... but one crash and burns when one moves a team and calls it the Washington Senators :yuck:Only they're not called the Washington Senators.
The rights to that name are held by the second franchise to use the name, the current Texass Rangers. (The original Senators franchise gave up the name to their replacements, an expansion team, when they became the Minnesota Twinkies, er, Twins)
The current franchise is the Washington Nationals... which, ironically, was the official name of the original franchise for a spell in the 1920's & 30's.
Now, that said... I believe it is very unfortunate that the Expos got run into the ground. The franchise never really recovered from ALMOST winning the division in 1994, only to be waylaid by a player's strike. And then they were completely destroyed when a subsequent owner (Loria, current owner of the Florida Dead Fish) took steps that appear to have set the team up to be sold & moved. Similar to the half-assed-except-for-a-movie-plot plan that "Rachel Phelps" tried in the movie Major League, only this schmuck did it for real.
But please, do root for the Nationals. If not as your primary team, your secondary one. My kid depends on it!
VE7DCW
04-17-2013, 03:20 PM
Yes...... it is the Nationals..... shows you where my interest headed after the move of the team! I know they were trying to call them the Senators when they moved,but as in all major sports, business interests really don't care about fan support of course as long the profitibility bottom line holds!
I followed the exploits of the Montreal Expos as the first major league Canadian baseball team and frankly enjoyed their success on the field.I can't say the same for the Toronto Bluejays.... I hate Toronto.... easteners.... everyone hates them in the west.... my understanding the people of Toronto and the people of Ontario like them as a team.....they would :neener:
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