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PA5COR
02-14-2013, 02:17 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/14/1589911/vday-chocolate-is-mostly-corn/

On a typical Valentine’s Day, consumers buy more than 58 million pounds of chocolate. Since 70 percent (http://gmoinside.org/warning-your-valentines-day-treats-may-be-filled-with-gmos/) of that chocolate is owned by two companies, Hershey and Mars, most of it was actually processed from genetically modified (GM) corn and soybeans.In fact, an estimated 90 percent of processed food in grocery stores use GM corn and soybeans patented by agriculture giant Monsanto Company. That includes chocolates, which contain soy lecithin and high fructose corn syrup — a sweetener that’s been tied to the obesity epidemic (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/23/1484181/americans-less-high-fructose-corn-syrup/).

Read on following the linky....:shifty:

KG4CGC
02-14-2013, 02:42 PM
What Monsanto wants, Monsanto gets.

PA5COR
02-14-2013, 02:53 PM
Not here, in Europe, they won't...

NQ6U
02-14-2013, 03:11 PM
Not here, in Europe, they won't...

Yes they will. Resistance is futile.

(Capacitance, on the other hand, is reactive)

N2NH
02-14-2013, 04:44 PM
That includes chocolates, which contain soy lecithin and high fructose corn syrup — a sweetener that’s been tied to the obesity epidemic (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/23/1484181/americans-less-high-fructose-corn-syrup/).

Read on following the linky....:shifty:

I recently made this case and that this in turn is causing the epidemic of Type II Diabetes.

But John/IZE showed me the error of my ways. I now know better because John knows everything.

N2CHX
02-14-2013, 05:06 PM
This is why, as a woman who LOVES chocolate, I refuse to eat that nasty, waxy tasting, lecithin filled garbage that passes for chocolate these days. A couple of local candy stores sell real chocolate that actually still tastes like chocolate and doesn't have all that crap in it.

XE1/N5AL
02-14-2013, 05:49 PM
Yes they will. Resistance is futile.

(Capacitance, on the other hand, is reactive)
Such words of wisdom will get you inducted into The Island Poster's Hall of Fame.

PA5COR
02-15-2013, 02:24 AM
What the Dutch import is this:

http://www.grenadagrenadines.com/blog/detail/grenada-sends-its-love-to-europe/

kb2vxa
02-16-2013, 02:56 PM
Americans eat Dutch chocolate, the Dutch eat Grenadian chocolate. Now that's interesting, just be careful not to pull the pin.

Oh don't get all upset over a play on words. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_process_chocolate

KG4CGC
02-16-2013, 08:13 PM
There is a place called, The Fresh Market which caters to the crusty upper types that has a variety of chocolate from various places (except Brazil ... well all of Central and South America) where I have found roasted and raw nibs. Reminds one of what chocolate used to be like back in the 60s.
Just don't eat your raw chocolate with a bold Zinfandel made from old growth vines. You'll wake up in the middle of the night feeling like you ate a section of asphalt as well as tasting like hot asphalt as you breathe.

n6hcm
02-16-2013, 08:42 PM
This is why, as a woman who LOVES chocolate, I refuse to eat that nasty, waxy tasting, lecithin filled garbage that passes for chocolate these days. A couple of local candy stores sell real chocolate that actually still tastes like chocolate and doesn't have all that crap in it.

there's a place downtown that has awesome chocolate and awesome magazines--i need to go there tomorrow for both (yes, my momentary blood glucose scare has passed). the right stuff in sufficient quantities can be had in satisfying quantities without being problematic.

i have no patience for brown wax sold as food.

suddenseer
02-16-2013, 09:03 PM
I treat myself to a bar of dark chocolate sweetened with sugar beet juice. 88% cocoa. It is low glycemic as it only has 5mg of sugar carbs per 42 gm half bar. It is not as good as sex, but keeps me satiated, and out of trouble. :yum:

KB3LAZ
02-17-2013, 09:14 AM
Not here, in Europe, they won't...

IDK about there but I have yet to find any chocolate that I like here in Spain. Most of it is made in Belgium and is dark chocolate which is very very bitter. I like milk chocolate...hard to find here. Then again, so is "whole milk". Not a big loss as I dont often eat chocolate.

HUGH
02-17-2013, 11:34 AM
IDK about there but I have yet to find any chocolate that I like here in Spain. Most of it is made in Belgium and is dark chocolate which is very very bitter. I like milk chocolate...hard to find here. Then again, so is "whole milk". Not a big loss as I dont often eat chocolate.

You might be able to get Swiss chocolate, Lindt for example. They make some that are sweet and creamy.

In London cinema foyers, after a Walt Disney childrens's film, you'd find on sale "chocolate" animals representing some of Disney's characters. On examination I noted they were the worst kind of "chocolate", seemingly a waxy substance and the label stated "chocolate flavouring". My American friends there promptly refused to let their children eat them.

I'm pleased to report that "Hotel Chocolat" have now expanded with over 70 stores in the UK and 5 in the USA. You get a box of assorted chocolates each month and they're all in pairs so no fighting. This coincides with the introduction of "Slimming World" to the USA.

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KG4CGC
02-17-2013, 02:16 PM
Brown wax sold as food? Why that's not wax! No, that Brown 25™ from Uranus Corporation.

kb2vxa
02-17-2013, 06:47 PM
"In London cinema foyers, after a Walt Disney childrens's film, you'd find on sale "chocolate" animals representing some of Disney's characters. On examination I noted they were the worst kind of "chocolate", seemingly a waxy substance and the label stated "chocolate flavouring"."

That's Disney marketing for you.

"No, that Brown 25™ from Uranus Corporation."

I see you have discovered the source of the raw material. "Things come out a little different at Uranus."

al2n
02-26-2013, 09:43 PM
Most of our food these days is mostly corn.

Been trying to get away from processed and factory farmed foods as much as possible. Now that I live out in the country once more I can raise my own chickens and rabbits, grow veggies, and seek out farmers for fresh foods that have not been processed and pumped up with medications in order to keep them alive till butcher time.

If you ever visit a feed lot or giant chicken farm, you would never want to buy meat at the store again. :yuck:

NQ6U
02-26-2013, 09:55 PM
If you ever visit a feed lot or giant chicken farm, you would never want to buy meat at the store again.

They are the best argument for vegetarianism one could ever present.

al2n
02-26-2013, 10:18 PM
They are the best argument for vegetarianism one could ever present.

Read some of Joel Salatin's books if you have not already. He has been preaching organic and multi-layer farming for years.

He is featured in the documentary "Food Inc." and "Fresh". Good stuff.

NQ6U
02-27-2013, 09:44 AM
Read some of Joel Salatin's books if you have not already. He has been preaching organic and multi-layer farming for years.

He is featured in the documentary "Food Inc." and "Fresh". Good stuff.

I've always had my doubts about the claims that are sometimes made about organic produce being nutritionally superior to conventionally-grown stuff but none at all about it being a better method when it comes to long-term sustainability. When I lived in southern Oregon, back in the late Seventies, I had about two acres and raised rabbits and chickens for meat and eggs.

W4GPL
02-27-2013, 10:17 AM
Want to hear the really strange thing? My corn is mostly chocolate. :scared:

al2n
02-27-2013, 05:44 PM
I've always had my doubts about the claims that are sometimes made about organic produce being nutritionally superior to conventionally-grown stuff but none at all about it being a better method when it comes to long-term sustainability. When I lived in southern Oregon, back in the late Seventies, I had about two acres and raised rabbits and chickens for meat and eggs.


I am not sure on the nutrition part, but it is nice to know you are eating something that has not been genetically altered to resist being sprayed with Roundup.

Got four bunnies right now with a litter due any day. Have two chickens (the ones in the avatar) with another 28 eggs in the incubator due this weekend. Going to eat the roosters and enslave the hens.

KG4CGC
02-27-2013, 05:54 PM
Monsanto says:
"All your corn is belong to us."

al2n
02-27-2013, 10:15 PM
Want to hear the really strange thing? My corn is mostly chocolate. :scared:

Corn that is made of chocolate....chocolate made of corn....Oreo's that taste like candy corn....we are doomed.

N2RJ
02-28-2013, 09:30 AM
What Monsanto wants, Monsanto gets.

That's true. Including a seat at the head of the FDA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Taylor

Sign the petition from MoveOn.org to tell Obama to get rid of him:

http://signon.org/sign/tell-obama-to-cease-fda

al2n
02-28-2013, 10:30 AM
That's true. Including a seat at the head of the FDA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Taylor

Sign the petition from MoveOn.org to tell Obama to get rid of him:

http://signon.org/sign/tell-obama-to-cease-fda

They have a lot of employees on the Federal payroll appointed by both parties over the years. Same thing with the USDA being run by feedlot owners.

KC2UGV
02-28-2013, 11:19 AM
They have a lot of employees on the Federal payroll appointed by both parties over the years. Same thing with the USDA being run by feedlot owners.

EPA being ran by chemical manufacturer CEO's, Fed being ran by bankers, etc etc.

It's a double-deged sword. The experts are often the ones who know how to bend the rules, and it can cut both ways.

WØTKX
02-28-2013, 11:45 AM
Corn is Soylent Green!

http://cdn.eyefetch.com/610w/8e9ac836-0d7c-4eb5-938b-8c4203496db2.jpg

N2RJ
02-28-2013, 12:32 PM
They have a lot of employees on the Federal payroll appointed by both parties over the years. Same thing with the USDA being run by feedlot owners.

Oh I agree.

W4GPL
02-28-2013, 01:14 PM
Is there anything we can discuss that doesn't turn political?

NQ6U
02-28-2013, 01:44 PM
Is there anything we can discuss that doesn't turn political?

Only a socialist liberal tree-hugger would ask that question. Why do you hate America?

W4GPL
02-28-2013, 02:19 PM
I'd tell you, but I think vBulletin has a max character limit..

X-Rated
02-28-2013, 06:08 PM
Thread: Your chocolate is mostly corn...

I always wondered why my stools had corn. Uh. Political corn, that is. Yeah.

KG4CGC
02-28-2013, 06:17 PM
I always wondered why my stools had corn. Uh. Political corn, that is. Yeah.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/Aliens%20Guy/1533776204_862389e721_z1_zps92434111.jpg

Roughage and fiber together forever.

al2n
02-28-2013, 07:28 PM
Is there anything we can discuss that doesn't turn political?

Quilt making?

Or will that turn into a debate on why Liberals sew clockwise and Conservatives counter clockwise?

NQ6U
03-01-2013, 12:41 AM
Quilt making?

Or will that turn into a debate on why Liberals sew clockwise and Conservatives counter clockwise?

More likely a gay/straight thing.

KB3LAZ
03-02-2013, 10:13 AM
You might be able to get Swiss chocolate, Lindt for example. They make some that are sweet and creamy.

In London cinema foyers, after a Walt Disney childrens's film, you'd find on sale "chocolate" animals representing some of Disney's characters. On examination I noted they were the worst kind of "chocolate", seemingly a waxy substance and the label stated "chocolate flavouring". My American friends there promptly refused to let their children eat them.

I'm pleased to report that "Hotel Chocolat" have now expanded with over 70 stores in the UK and 5 in the USA. You get a box of assorted chocolates each month and they're all in pairs so no fighting. This coincides with the introduction of "Slimming World" to the USA.

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Will have to look for that in April as I will be in London for a few days. Well, 4 days of work and only one day of free range.