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PA5COR
01-28-2013, 02:09 PM
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands unexpectedly announced her abdication tonight in favour of her son, Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange, who will become the first Dutch king since 1890.
Two days short of her 75th birthday, the much-loved Queen went on television to say that she was retiring from the throne on April 30 after nearly 33 years.

The 75-year-old queen, the head of the House of Orange-Nassau which has ruled the Netherlands since 1813, said she would abdicate in favour of her son the crown prince Willem-Alexander, 45.

Crown prince Willem-Alexander trained as a hydrological engineer and has been closely involved in development aid. His Argentine wife Maxima, born Maxima Zorreguieta, enjoys tremendous popularity, though their liaison was initially controversial due to the family’s ties to the former Argentine military regime.
The succession raises the issue of what will become of the national monarchist holiday, Queen’s Day, celebrated every April 30 on the birthday of Beatrix’s mother Juliana.
Since the 1960s the holiday has grown into a huge outdoor festival bringing hundreds of thousands of orange-clad visitors to Amsterdam. Beatrix decided to continue the celebration, but it is not clear what form it will take when the country is ruled by a king rather than a queen for the first time since the 1890.


Beatrix decided to retire in concert with the 200th anniversary of the year in which the Netherlands became a monarchy.
Previously the country had been a republic, at first as the United Provinces and later as the Napoleonic-allied Batavian Republic. The monarchy was instituted after the defeat of Napoleonic forces in 1812.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3670781.ece

Prior to the Napoleonic wars (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Napoleonic_wars), most of the semi-independent provinces of the Netherlands had been ruled by elected stadtholders (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Stadtholder), who were all drawn from the House of Orange-Nassau (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau).
The House of Orange-Nassau came from Dillenburg (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Dillenburg), Germany (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Germany), seat of the Dukes of Nassau (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Nassau_(duchy)). Their title 'Prince of Orange (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Prince_of_Orange)' was acquired through inheritance of the Principality of Orange (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Principality_of_Orange) in southern France (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/France), in 1544. William of Orange (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/William_I_of_Orange) (also known as William the Silent) was the first Orange-Nassau stadtholder (ironically, appointed by Philip II of Spain (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Philip_II_of_Spain)). From 1568 to his death in 1584, he led the Dutch struggle for independence from Spain (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Spain). His younger brother, John VI, Count of Nassau-Dillenburg (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/John_VI,_Count_of_Nassau-Dillenburg), was the direct male line (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Male_line) ancestor of the first King of the Netherlands.
The Netherlands remained, formally, a confederated republic, even when in 1747 the office of stadtholder was centralized (one stadtholder for all provinces) and became formally hereditary under the House of Orange-Nassau.
The first King of the Netherlands was actually French (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/France). In 1806, Emperor Napoleon (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Napoleon) installed his brother Louis Bonaparte (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Louis_Bonaparte) as ruler of the Kingdom of Holland (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Kingdom_of_Holland), a puppet state. The Kingdom of Holland was abolished in 1810.
The present monarchy was founded in 1813, when the French were driven out. Prince William V of Orange was proclaimed Sovereign Prince of the United Netherlands (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/United_Netherlands) (comprising certain northern provinces). The new monarchy was confirmed in 1815 at the Congress of Vienna (https://forums.hamisland.net/wiki/Congress_of_Vienna) as part of the re-arrangement of Europe after the fall of Napoleon, and its status as a kingdom was also confirmed.

KK4AMI
01-28-2013, 02:25 PM
Prince of Orange? Oh, don't tell me the Netherlands is being run by the French! That is as bad as the British Royalty being of German descent.:lol:

NQ6U
01-28-2013, 02:58 PM
You have to admire a country that has a prince in charge of their citrus.

NA4BH
01-28-2013, 03:05 PM
He will now be formerly known as Prince

http://photobarone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/artist-formerly-known-as-prince.jpeg

N2RJ
01-28-2013, 03:18 PM
What are the royal family's powers? Do they have the power to dissolve parliament like the British do?

X-Rated
01-28-2013, 04:07 PM
I will never forget the time I was sitting at a restaurant table in Amsterdam with my boss and a sales rep. The boss and the rep were having a grand time talking to each other making conversation. The boss got up and excused himself to another room and I wondered what we (Cor and I) would talk about. So to make small talk, I asked Cor, "Well, have you ever met the queen?" He got a scornful look on his face and asked, "Now why the F*#K would I want to do that?" I tried to think of something else to say and changed the subject.

A few months later, my company hired this other Cor guy as a full company salesman. I rode the train to work with my HR guy and he was discussing to me about the complexity of hiring people from foreign countries. Such as holidays. He said that Cor was demanding the Queen's birthday off as a holiday. So I told him about the little story above. I am sure he still got that holiday off.

VE7DCW
01-28-2013, 04:36 PM
He will now be formerly known as Prince

http://photobarone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/artist-formerly-known-as-prince.jpeg

I could never figure out WTF Prince was up to that he was to be addressed by that silly symbol above !!


Mental illness runs in all circles no doubt! :rofl:

VE7DCW
01-28-2013, 04:39 PM
I'm now guessing the holiday in the Netherlands will no longer be called "Queen's day"? :dunno:

PA5COR
01-28-2013, 05:21 PM
Kings day from next year on.
This Queen has brought down the powers the Queen/King has considerably, she cannot dissolve the parliament though if the parliament falls she needs to consent to the dissolving of the goverment.
She has been very good in keeping relations with other countries in good shape, done a lot for our commerce and promote our trade, as well being very close to the public intervening indirectly if laws were proposed that could hurt the average man or woman in the street.

95% of the people love her to bits, as we do with the house of Orange since 1540's, a long history.

N2RJ
01-29-2013, 03:01 PM
Thanks.

I'm not so sure I would be comfortable living under the rule of a royal family, as it is against my personal beliefs. But it sounds like it works out well for you.

PA5COR
01-29-2013, 04:43 PM
Don't see the difference being rule by a king from a line that does that since 1540 till now, and knows the people best, fact is they were never ousted by the people in that time so they do something quite well.
Being "ruled" by a president for a number of years that tries to get out as much politically as he can not hindered by long term vision might be worse for the people.
In the above case i opt for our royalty.

In the 1960's there were calls to go back to be a republic, never made it though, 85% of the people supported the royalty, now that is 95%.
The role of our royalty is difficult to understand if you never have been here and witnessed a Queensday ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands

N2NH
01-29-2013, 09:26 PM
Don't see the difference being rule by a king from a line that does that since 1540 till now, and knows the people best, fact is they were never ousted by the people in that time so they do something quite well.
Being "ruled" by a president for a number of years that tries to get out as much politically as he can not hindered by long term vision might be worse for the people.
In the above case i opt for our royalty.

In the 1960's there were calls to go back to be a republic, never made it though, 85% of the people supported the royalty, now that is 95%.
The role of our royalty is difficult to understand if you never have been here and witnessed a Queensday ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands

I agree. I think royalty should be reconsidered by many countries. As you pointed out, a term limited president or any other elected official, will not provide any long-term solutions that will not be finished during his administration. The last long-term American program that I can remember was the challenge to land a man on the Moon and return him that President Kennedy made. It stands out because it was likely to occur during his successors administration. Look at New York City. They have the King and Queen of New York. Makes proclamations about soda. But when it comes to a long needed and planned for rail tunnel to connect the city with the rest of the country? Not so much.