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N2NH
01-27-2013, 06:51 PM
1) The video is of an earlier fly-by in Dec., 2012 that was 18X further than the Moon.


A new video captures the giant asteroid 4179 Toutatis tumbling through space on its flyby of Earth earlier this week.
The asteroid Toutatis video (http://www.space.com/18914-watch-asteroid-touatis-tumble-through-space-video.html), which is about 40 seconds long, combines 64 radar images taken Wednesday and Thursday (Dec. 12 and 13) by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna in Goldstone, Calif. On those days, Toutatis was about 4.3 million miles (7 million kilometers) from Earth, or about 18 times farther away than the moon is.



Huge Asteroid's Earth Flyby Caught on Video (http://www.space.com/18915-asteroid-toutatis-flyby-video.html)

2) 5 Reasons To Care About Asteroids


While missions to celestial bodies such like Mars or the moon may sound more exciting than a mission to a mere asteroid, scientists say we have much to learn from these irregularly-shaped rocks that roll through our solar system. Here are 5 reasons why we should care about asteroid.

5 Reasons to Care About Asteroids (http://www.space.com/12079-asteroids-5-reasons-explore-space-rocks.html)

3) Into deep space: second U.S. firm takes aim at mining asteroids


A team of entrepreneurs and engineers unveiled plans on Tuesday for a space mining company that would tap nearby asteroids for raw materials to fuel satellites and manufacture components in orbit.

Into deep space: second U.S. firm takes aim at mining asteroids (http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90l14e-us-space-mining/)

4) Asteroid 2012 DA14 To Sweep Close on Feb. 15th.


A near-Earth asteroid – called 2012 DA14 by astronomers – will pass very close to Earth on February 15, 2013. Astronomers estimate that, when it’s closest to us, it’ll be within the orbit of the moon (which is about 240,000 miles away), and within the orbits of geosynchronous satellites (about 26,000 miles up). 2012 DA14 will be about 21,000 miles (35,000 kilometers) away. It will not strike Earth in 2013. Astronomers’ calculations of asteroid orbits can be trusted. After all, even decades ago, they knew enough about calculating orbits to send people to the moon and bring them safely back, and today we are able place our space vehicles in orbit around objects as small as asteroids (http://earthsky.org/space/dawn-spacecraft-leaves-asteroid-vesta-now-headed-for-ceres). So, no, 2012 DA14 won’t strike us in 2013. There was a remote possibility it might strike us in 2020, but that possibility has been ruled out (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/2012da14.html) also.

Asteroid 2012 DA14 to sweep close on February 15, 2013 (http://earthsky.org/space/asteroid-2012-da14-will-pass-very-close-to-earth-in-2013)

KC2UGV
01-27-2013, 07:58 PM
If only we could convince Corporate America there was oil on those asteroids, maybe we could turn the $800 billion per year towards space exploration...

kb2vxa
01-27-2013, 11:54 PM
"...these irregularly-shaped rocks that roll through our solar system."

Come to think of it rock and roll is irregularly shaped.

X-Rated
01-28-2013, 12:48 AM
I know now that all those years of playing Asteroids will pay off if they don't away muh gunz.

N2NH
02-11-2013, 12:55 PM
Asteroid close call Friday...


This Friday, February 15, an asteroid half the size of a football field will make a very close bypass of earth. Asteroid 2012DA14 is expected to pass the earth at a distance of 17,200 miles, which is inside the ring of geosynchronous satellites.
The folks at NASA say the asteroid will be as close as 1/13th the distance to the moon. The brightness will be about magnitude 7.5, or too faint to be seen by the naked eye. Folks in Indonesia as well as Eastern Europe, Asia and Australia using binoculars will have a chance to see the asteroid.
The asteroid will be to faint by the time the earth rotates to where the people in the U.S. would have a chance to see it.
NASA believes an object this size will get close to earth once every 40 years.


Large asteroid to bypass the earth on Feb. 15 (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50771146)


Nothing at all to worry about. We will NOT be affected in any way. They've been saying this for months. Right?


An asteroid capable of destroying London will skim past the Earth on Friday, approaching closer than many satellites.
Scientists say they are sure there is no chance of the 150ft (45.7m) wide space rock hitting the planet - but it could disrupt your mobile phone.
That’s because the asteroid could collide with one of more than 100 telecommunication and weather satellites in fixed orbits above the Earth which send data between phones.



As was mentioned earlier when they were saying we wouldn't be affected in any manner whatsoever. Why do I have trouble believing NASA will tell us when the big one comes?

Asteroid in ‘near miss’ with the Earth: Object capable of destroying London will pass within 17,000 miles from earth on Friday (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276771/Asteroid-2012-DA14-near-miss-Earth-pass-17-000-miles-earth-Friday.html)


Enjoy.

n2ize
02-11-2013, 06:58 PM
Asteroid close call Friday...




Large asteroid to bypass the earth on Feb. 15 (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50771146)


Nothing at all to worry about. We will NOT be affected in any way. They've been saying this for months. Right?

And so far they have been spot on as far as the threat most asteroids pose to the earth. They are quite good at observing and calculating the distance and trajectory that this asteroid (and many others of significant size) will take as it passes the earth. At that distance and trajectory there is no expectation of any serious effects on earth from this asteroid. For that reason I am not going to sit and pump up my anxiety over it.




As was mentioned earlier when they were saying we wouldn't be affected in any manner whatsoever. Why do I have trouble believing NASA will tell us when the big one comes?
Enjoy.

I see no reason to imagine that they wouldn't tell us.

N2NH
02-11-2013, 07:08 PM
Interestingly the NASA launch this afternoon was for a GeoSynchronous Weather Satellite. I wonder if it is being orbited to replace one that might be taken out by this rock colliding with it?

Time will tell.

n2ize
02-12-2013, 03:30 AM
Interestingly the NASA launch this afternoon was for a GeoSynchronous Weather Satellite. I wonder if it is being orbited to replace one that might be taken out by this rock colliding with it?

Doubtful.

kb2vxa
02-12-2013, 07:04 AM
Very, after all we still have those little Japanese cubes blinking Morris code so we don't need a weather satellite image. Just look up, if you see one the sky is clear, if not it's cloudy.

N2NH
02-15-2013, 05:56 AM
NASA Television will provide commentary starting at 2 p.m. EST (11 a.m. PST) on Friday, Feb. 15, during the close, but safe, flyby of a small near-Earth asteroid named "2012 DA14." NASA places a high priority on tracking asteroids and protecting our home planet from them. This flyby will provide a unique opportunity for researchers to study a near-Earth object up close. The half-hour broadcast from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., will incorporate real-time animation to show the location of the asteroid in relation to Earth, along with live or near real-time views of the asteroid from observatories in Australia, weather permitting.



NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html)

N2NH
02-15-2013, 06:03 AM
If only we could convince Corporate America there was oil on those asteroids, maybe we could turn the $800 billion per year towards space exploration...

It seems that might just happen...


If a trillion-dollar coin (http://now.msn.com/trillion-dollar-coin-idea-gains-popularity) sounds like a reasonable way to solve the national debt problem, how about lassoing a $195 billion asteroid? A space rock scheduled to hurtle past Earth on Feb. 15 is estimated to be worth nearly $200 billion in recoverable water, iron, nickel and other metals. That could certainly put a (small) dent in the national overdraft. But unfortunately, even though the asteroid, known as 2012 DA14, will only be an Earth-grazing 17,200 miles away, space mining company Deep Space Industries says the football field-sized boulder's trajectory "is tilted relative to Earth, requiring too much energy to chase it down."

That was something Asimov wrote about in his short story "The Martian Way." How certain objects wouldn't make a profit because of their orbit and how Asteroid mining would be profitable. Written 60 years ago. Interesting how it is fast becoming a reality.

Lassoing this Friday's asteroid could net you $195 billion (http://now.msn.com/asteroid-worth-dollar195-billion-is-coming-near-earth-on-friday?ocid=ansnow11)

N2NH
02-15-2013, 06:20 AM
And so far they have been spot on as far as the threat most asteroids pose to the earth...

So either they didn't tell us about this one or they had no idea it was coming in? And yes, people were affected by it. At least 400 of them. (https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/24881-At-Least-400-Injured-by-Meteor-in-Russia-%28Not-The-Onion%29)

KC2UGV
02-15-2013, 07:50 AM
So either they didn't tell us about this one or they had no idea it was coming in? And yes, people were affected by it. At least 400 of them. (https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/24881-At-Least-400-Injured-by-Meteor-in-Russia-%28Not-The-Onion%29)

They had no idea.

The NASA budget is 18.74 billion per year, which is 1/2 of a percent of the federal budget. With that budget, we launch exploratory missions, monitor the skies, etc etc. With that budget, we can only monitor about 2% of the sky per year. And, it's a big fucking sky.

n2ize
02-15-2013, 12:05 PM
So either they didn't tell us about this one or they had no idea it was coming in? And yes, people were affected by it. At least 400 of them. (https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/24881-At-Least-400-Injured-by-Meteor-in-Russia-%28Not-The-Onion%29)

Many of the smaller meteors are undetected. There are so many of them that NASA primarily focuses on the big ones that could do significant regional damage if they were to hit. So far they have been spot on with regards to understanding the trajectories and , as calculated, the trajectories kept them far enough from the earth to be of a major life threatening concern.

With regards to the many more smaller meteors things are less organized as there are so many and the resources to monitor every single point in the sky are just not there. I remember a few years ago one night sitting quietly and suddenly hearing an extremely loud explosion outside that rattled the windows and shook everything. I was certain something major blew or some terrorists set off a bomb. I turned on both the scanner and the radio expecting to hear the worst. But all I got was a call to the local fire dept regarding callers reporting an explosion. After an exhaustive search nothing was found. Later on we learned that a small meteor crashed the atmosphere and created a strong shock wave (sonic boom). This is basically what just happened in Russia but, in the Russian case, on a grander scale with more intense shock waves breaking windows and causing injuries.

So yes, meteors can and do affect people. No denying that. Fortunately we watch for and calculate the trajectories of the really big ones and fortunately (so far) none have been on a direct collision trajectory with the earth.

wa6mhz
02-15-2013, 12:17 PM
Maybe those Asteroids are loaded with GOLD! never know till we go up and check them out.

KG4CGC
02-15-2013, 02:12 PM
Has this link been posted?
http://www.sciencefriday.com/blogs/02/15/2013/watch-the-asteroid-flyby-live.html?audience=4

Includes a Ustream linkus.

N2NH
02-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Has this link been posted?
http://www.sciencefriday.com/blogs/02/15/2013/watch-the-asteroid-flyby-live.html?audience=4

Includes a Ustream linkus.

Nope it hasn't. Thanks Charles.

N2NH
02-15-2013, 02:55 PM
Meteor potentially linked to asteroid 2012 DA14, expert says (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-57569611/meteor-potentially-linked-to-asteroid-2012-da14-expert-says/)Both may be related. Time to reassess our NEA and NEO programs.


It's possible the giant meteor that slammed into Russia Friday morning has something to do with the asteroid -- known as 2012 DA14 -- that's expected to soon fly by Earth, according one expert. CBS News contributor Michio Kaku, a physics professor at the City University of New York, explained on "CBS This Morning" that, though based on video evidence the European Space Agency has not seen any direct relationship between the house-sized meteorite and the asteroid, "asteroids occur in swarms" so "it's very possible that there's a swarm of asteroids around DA14."
The DA14 -- an asteroid a half a football field across, traveling at a blistering 4.8 miles per second -- is expected to pass within just 17,200 miles of Earth on Friday, a record close encounter that will carry it well inside the orbits of communications satellites.
Faced with questions about the asteroid and safety on Earth, Kaku pointed to the moon's pockmarked look as a sign of what's spinning around in space: "The moon is pockmarked because there are a million objects of that size near the orbit of the planet Earth."
He added, "The Earth is moving in a cosmic shooting gallery."

N1LAF
02-15-2013, 03:06 PM
Not related.

Called a cosmic coincidence.

NASA is saying that the meteorite hitting Russia was coming from the opposite direction of the meteor now passing the earth.

N1LAF
02-15-2013, 03:09 PM
A fireball seen flying over Russia on Feb. 15 at 3:20: 26 UTC impacted Chelyabinsk. Preliminary information is that this object was unrelated to asteroid 2012 DA14, which made a safe pass by Earth today. Image credit: Google Earth, NASA/JPL-Caltech

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.html

wa6mhz
02-15-2013, 03:10 PM
the Asteroid missed! Maybe next time!

X-Rated
02-15-2013, 03:17 PM
A fireball seen flying over Russia on Feb. 15 at 3:20: 26 UTC impacted Chelyabinsk. Preliminary information is that this object was unrelated to asteroid 2012 DA14, which made a safe pass by Earth today. Image credit: Google Earth, NASA/JPL-Caltech

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.html


Preliminary information is that this object was unrelated to asteroid 2012 DA14, which made a safe pass by Earth today.

Not quite the same thing you said it said.


It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained.

Yeah...

N1LAF
02-15-2013, 03:22 PM
Yeoman stressed that the bolide event was likely not associated at all with the incoming asteroid 2012 DA14, which will fly within 17,200 miles of Earth when it passes safely by our planet today.

"The asteroid will travel south to north," Yeomans said. "The bolide trail was not south to north and the separation in time between the fireball and 2012 DA14 close approach is significant."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-explosion-not-caused-by-asteroid-flyby-nasa-scientist-says/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2L08llILd

N1LAF
02-15-2013, 03:25 PM
Not quite the same thing you said it said.



Yeah...

Follow the links, Jerry....

Asteroid 2012 DA14 – Earth Flyby Reality Check
02.15.13

Editor's Note: NASA statement on Russia meteor:
"According to NASA scientists, the trajectory of the Russia meteor was significantly different than the trajectory of the asteroid 2012 DA14, making it a completely unrelated object. Information is still being collected about the Russia meteor and analysis is preliminary at this point. In videos of the meteor, it is seen to pass from left to right in front of the rising sun, which means it was traveling from north to south. Asteroid DA14's trajectory is in the opposite direction, from south to north."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/asteroidflyby.html

X-Rated
02-15-2013, 04:26 PM
Follow the links, Jerry....

Asteroid 2012 DA14 – Earth Flyby Reality Check
02.15.13

Editor's Note: NASA statement on Russia meteor:
"According to NASA scientists, the trajectory of the Russia meteor was significantly different than the trajectory of the asteroid 2012 DA14, making it a completely unrelated object. Information is still being collected about the Russia meteor and analysis is preliminary at this point. In videos of the meteor, it is seen to pass from left to right in front of the rising sun, which means it was traveling from north to south. Asteroid DA14's trajectory is in the opposite direction, from south to north."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/asteroidflyby.html

I am simply quoting your reference. Nothing more. Nothing less.

kb2vxa
02-16-2013, 02:39 PM
Some babies need their diapers changed.

n2ize
02-19-2013, 09:05 AM
Meteor potentially linked to asteroid 2012 DA14, expert says (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-57569611/meteor-potentially-linked-to-asteroid-2012-da14-expert-says/)

Both may be related. Time to reassess our NEA and NEO programs.

Kaku also swore that the world was going to end on Y2K. Airplanes were going to fall from the sky, nuclear missiles were going to launch themselves, power plants were going to explode, etc. More recently Kaku appeared on Fox espousing some sensationalistic nonsense.

I would look to more reputable sources such as NASA. This far it seems unlikely that this is related to DA14. Most likely this was coincidental. Coincidence is a part of everyday life. In fact many coincidental occurrences are far more probable than most persons imagine.

Kaku is a well known and brilliant theoretical physiologist specializing in string theory. But he has also been known to make some rather erroneous statements with regards to other topics.

N2NH
02-19-2013, 10:18 AM
And yet NASA did not find Asteroid 2012 DA14. A group of amateur astonomers in Spain did. They sent the data to NASA who did the math on the trajectory.

n2ize
02-19-2013, 05:00 PM
And yet NASA did not find Asteroid 2012 DA14. A group of amateur astonomers in Spain did. They sent the data to NASA who did the math on the trajectory.

That's the beauty of it all. Amateur astronomers spotting something and contacting NASA for verification who in turn verifies, measures, and computes it's trajectory Great to see both amateurs and professionals with their eyes to the sky working together making new discoveries and applying knowledge, tools, and skills to learn new things.