Twinkies and Wonder Bread no more...

[AE1PT]

Hostess Brands has decided to call it a day.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

But not really...

It is quite likely that Bimbo Bakeries will buy up at least the Twinkies brand name.

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/11/16/dont-worry-twinkies-will-survive/?iid=EL :yuck:

More proof that the Post WWII American Dream is in a state of decay...

[N2CHX]

https://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php/23976-The-End-Is-Nigh!

[wa6mhz]

Think the BIMBOS would want the HO-HOs!

[N8YX]

Bush's fault.

[W4RLR]

Going to fill the freezer with Wonder Bread tonight.

[N2NH]

Gov. Christie of New Jersey refused to answer questions regarding the end of Twinkies as we know them...



New Jersey Governor Chris Christie refused to answer a question about Twinkies after Hostess Brands Inc. -- maker of the snack -- announced Friday it was going out of business (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/hostess-brands-liquidation_n_2143284.html).

In a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXyipuHlao) posted to the governor's YouTube page, Christie refuses to give his opinion on Twinkies, joking he's "on Saturday Night Live enough."
"This is a set-up, man," Christie said. "It's bad that I even said the word 'Twinkie' from behind this microphone."



No Comment from Gov. Christie. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/chris-christie-twinkies_n_2146617.html)

[N2CHX]

Going to fill the freezer with Wonder Bread tonight.

Why? That stuff's like the worst bread ever.

[KB2SFH]

It's another part of my childhood taken away from me :cry:

[kb2vxa]

Me too, the best bread for making dough balls as bait for carp and catfish was Wonder. Don't need to moisten, it rolled up into stiff balls that didn't soften in water and fall off the hook.

On the down side it's the worst for sammiches, besides being unable to spread anything on it the stuff stuck to the roof of my mouth like a church wafer and was as difficult to remove. Twinkies and related snacks are worse, the bread is oily and the white goo in the middle has the consistency and taste of axle grease. Anything with chocolate "icing" on it has another interesting characteristic, it comes off easily and is hard as a dinner plate. It doesn't fly right either, kind of like a lead Frisbee and if you happen to hit anybody with it you'll do some serious damage. If it didn't fracture so easily it would be fine for skeet shooting.

[KC2UGV]

Me too, the best bread for making dough balls as bait for carp and catfish was Wonder. Don't need to moisten, it rolled up into stiff balls that didn't soften in water and fall off the hook.

On the down side it's the worst for sammiches, besides being unable to spread anything on it the stuff stuck to the roof of my mouth like a church wafer and was as difficult to remove. Twinkies and related snacks are worse, the bread is oily and the white goo in the middle has the consistency and taste of axle grease. Anything with chocolate "icing" on it has another interesting characteristic, it comes off easily and is hard as a dinner plate. It doesn't fly right either, kind of like a lead Frisbee and if you happen to hit anybody with it you'll do some serious damage. If it didn't fracture so easily it would be fine for skeet shooting.


I laughed at that. Hard.

[WØTKX]

As a young child, I discovered Moon Pies.

Much better than Twinkies.

[KJ3N]

The only thing with more chemicals in it than Twinkies, is Keith Richards.

[KG4CGC]

Best bread for baitballs is Sunbeam and Bunny. Hands down.

[KG4CGC]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/Aliens%20Guy/beeftwinkies1_zps882997df.jpg

[WØTKX]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/16/hostess-bankrupt-vulture-capitalists-picked-corpse-clean-video/


This morning, Hostess Brands, the maker of such staples as Wonder Bread and Twinkies, announced that they would be liquidating their operations, laying off all of their workers, and going out of business. The issues at Hostess have been decades in the making, a failure to innovate, to improve manufacturing methodology, and a regular problem of conflict between management and workers.

In 2004, the company entered bankruptcy with approximately $450 million in debt. It emerged after investment from Ripplewood Holdings. Today, it now stands at just shy of $1 billion in debt, despite additional investment by two more firms, Silver Point and Monarch. How did this happen?

These firms borrowed money to invest, which then they transferred that debt to the firm, simple. In effect, there never was any investment, only more debt added.
To emerge from bankruptcy, the companies unions agreed to large concessions which these vulture capitalists demanded, cutting thousands of jobs, transferring benefits or cutting benefits entirely. The companies also agreed to modernize the factories, which were running at a loss due to the age of the equipment, some of which dated to the 1930s. The investments from Silver Point and Monarch were to go towards this modernization. Instead the company found itself saddled with even more debt. To add to the company’s woes, the holding companies stopped supporting the retirement fund, raiding it for easy cash to extract from the firm. The current estimates put the liabilities of this fund at over $2 billion currently.

In order to “save” the firm, the operators of the company turned to the unions, which had already surrendered huge concessions just a few years back to turn the company around, and demanded an across the board slash, an additional 31%, along with eliminating the retirement and benefits entirely. It was a bridge too far. The union went on strike, and now the company has declared it will be liquidated.

Of course the right-wing media is quick to blame the unions, but in the end the union members would have lost more if they had capitulated to the vulture capitalists demands. By this move, they can hope to salvage the retirement plan, while if they’d given in they would have lost it all. $2 billion is a lot of money to just “give away” in negotiations. Of course the unions were expected to surrender despite the fact that the management company was asking the bankruptcy court to give their outgoing CEO up to $5.5 million. All of this was in addition to the 80% raises the executives were being treated to.

Then there were company payments to the Teamsters Union for managing the retirement funds, insurance, etc, agreed upon in the earlier bankruptcy proceedings. The company failed to pay for those either, adding an additional $100 million to the pile of bad debt the firm has all to extract as much wealth out of the firm as possible. This cost will, if not resolved during the liquidation, be spread to other companies the Teamsters operates with, as part of the contracts. The Hostess liquidation now will impact not only their direct employees, but hundreds of other firms.

[KG4CGC]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/16/hostess-bankrupt-vulture-capitalists-picked-corpse-clean-video/

OBAMA'S FAULT!

[AE1PT]

As a young child, I discovered Moon Pies.

Much better than Twinkies.

Oxymaroon. Perhaps as opposed to an elderly child?

[N2NH]

Why? That stuff's like the worst bread ever.

Agreed. IMHO Pepperidge Farm is the best, but even generic bread beats Wonder Bread.

[n6hcm]

they bought drake's while i wasn't looking and now devil dogs are gone, too.

[WØTKX]

Oxymaroon. Perhaps as opposed to an elderly child?

Oh. Thanks, I guess.

[W7XF]

I bet if Bimbo buys the Twinkies brand, there will have to make drastic
nutritional changes to them to pass FDA nutitional standards. Won't
be the same.

[kb2vxa]

That's because they absorb nutrition from the body, are healthy and even taste better when recycled.

[suddenseer]

I will miss the ho ho's, and the ding dongs. There, I said it. You can pay up now, you know who you are!

[N2CHX]

Agreed. IMHO Pepperidge Farm is the best, but even generic bread beats Wonder Bread.

I usually buy Schwebel's. They make the best Jewish rye ever. http://www.schwebels.com/our-story/a-proud-heritage

[N2CHX]

I bet if Bimbo buys the Twinkies brand, there will have to make drastic
nutritional changes to them to pass FDA nutitional standards. Won't
be the same.

Wow, I was just looking at Bimbo's website and was shocked to see how many brands they now own. There is a Bimbo warehouse/distribution center about a mile from me. I ride past it every time I go down the new bike path. Never really thought much about it. They now own Stroehmann. I worked for Stroehmann for a very short time in the late 80's just before I landed my first job in engineering. I was doing radio at night at an AM station on the weekends and an FM on weekdays. I worked at the bakery during the day, but that lasted only a few weeks before I just about dropped of exhaustion and it was shortly after that, that I was hired on as an engineer. The place I worked became a Dunkin' Donuts distribution center for a while, now I think it's an auto parts store. Funny how things change. I quite frankly, won't miss Hostess. I very rarely ate such things. I can probably count on my fingers how many times in my lifetime I ate a Hostess product. That shit is just too sickly sweet and full of preservatives. I really don't understand how anyone can eat that stuff with any regularity.

[kb2vxa]

Great for a sugar fix if you don't mind eating DuPont.

[KG4CGC]

Great for a sugar fix if you don't mind eating DuPont.

Or Raul.

[n6hcm]

around here bimbo and hostess came out of the same bakeries so it won't be a stretch to see twinkies happen that way.

was at safeway this afternoon and the place where the hostess stuff was kept was bare, making it much easier to see all the entermann's stuff. fine by me.

[N2NH]

I usually buy Schwebel's. They make the best Jewish rye ever. http://www.schwebels.com/our-story/a-proud-heritage

Sounds good, but we don't get it here. Heck, I haven't seen any Jewish rye bread around and there is a pretty big Hassidic area nearby. In NYC, Levy's was good and yes Pepperidge Farm had an excellent soft rye.

Also love German Pumpernickel and Russian Black bread.

[NY4Q]

Some reading fur yunz.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/18/1162786/-Inside-the-Hostess-Bankery

[N2CHX]

Some reading fur yunz.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/18/1162786/-Inside-the-Hostess-Bankery

Pretty much what I expected.

[W1GUH]

I've heard rumors that any remaining stock of Twinkies has been commandeered by the DEA. They're used to test for being stoned. If you can resist a plate of Twinkies, you pass!

[kb2vxa]

Just be glad they don't piss test for polysorbate 60, sodium steroyl lactate, calcium sulfate or those artificial flavorings if you ever mistakenly ate one.

[K7SGJ]

Just be glad they don't piss test for polysorbate 60, sodium steroyl lactate, calcium sulfate or those artificial flavorings if you ever mistakenly ate one.

No kidding. Now the stoners will be easy to spot with their orange fingers from eating all the Cheetos.

[AE1PT]

No kidding. Now the stoners will be easy to spot with their orange fingers from eating all the Cheetos.

I don't know about that. The Cheetos stained fingers apply to obsessed gamers, computer geeks, social misfits still living at home at 40, and overweight, nearsighted basement dwellers of all sort. Including hamsters...

[WØTKX]

Cheetos Nucleeer Orange looks great on Heathkit Green. :mrgreen:

[kb2vxa]

Cheetos are worse than Twinkies, and then there's cheesy Chester the hamster molester. And you thought gerbil felching was kinky?

[kf0rt]

Cheetos Nucleeer Orange looks great on Heathkit Green. :mrgreen:

What, wait... I'm starting to think some patchouli oil might play into this somewhere.

[NA4BH]

What, wait... I'm starting to think some patchouli oil might play into this somewhere.

Holy carp, you knew Patricia too? That brought back a blast from the past.

[AE1PT]

Patchouli and sandalwood oil were unavoidable in the 70s. Low blue clouds of dope smoke--courtesy of $10 an oz weed--the scent of patchouli--a bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill--and Barry White on the 8 track.

Hold on, got an auditory hallucination happening. Al Stewart, Year of the Cat. BRB.

Now, where were we? Oh yeah. Even Frankenstein's monster could get laid in those days...

Gotta go. 10CC just cranked up in my left temporal lobe. :cool2:

[WØTKX]

10cc! :omg:

Do the Wall Street shuffle, hear the money rustle.

Yaaaaaa. That's the ticket.

I was more into Zappa's Apostrophe. And Steeleye Span, for weird moods. ;)

[N2NH]

Some reading fur yunz.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/18/1162786/-Inside-the-Hostess-Bankery

Why Am Not Surprised? They should be under federal investigation for this. Where's the law that this violates?

[KG4CGC]

Why Am Not Surprised? They should be under federal investigation for this. Where's the law that this violates?

That's just it. Perfectly legal. Or, legal enough that no one will go after them. It's the Walmart model.

[W5GA]

Of course, it's totally true...it was on KOS!

[KG4CGC]

Of course, it's totally true...it was on KOS!

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/vulture_capitalism_not_unions_killed_twinkies/

[kb2vxa]

There's an odd similarity between Hostess and 10cc believe it or not. Hostess made the darlings of snack foods, 10cc were the darlings of rock and roll. Twinkies were the worst junk food in the world, 10cc was the Worst Band In The World. Up yours, up mine, up everybody's it takes time... but we're working on it. Now play the song.

[WØTKX]

I'll play ya a new song, and it's a damn good one...

http://youtu.be/ED_U2jw0fpk


http://youtu.be/ED_U2jw0fpk

[suddenseer]

As a young child, I discovered Moon Pies.

Much better than Twinkies.A Moon Pie, and an RC cola is all the nutrition anyone needs.

[kb2vxa]

I got a belly ache just reading that!

[NY3V]

Hostess is the Republican Party

"Well before Hostess pulled the plug, Twinkies were headed toward the category of kitsch objects. Chances are, if the GOP doesn't pull it together, it will be too."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-1122-daum-hostess-gop-liquidation-20121122,0,6010559.column?track=lat-pick

[kb2vxa]

Admitting they're a bunch of closet Twinkies would help damage control.

[NY3V]

"Poor management, not union intransigence, killed Hostess

The company had done almost nothing in the last 10 years to modernize or expand its offerings."http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20121125,0,966735.column?track=lat=pick

[KG4CGC]

Doesn't matter what you show them. The ''help'' is to be treated as a man treats his equine. Thing is, the equine gets better treatment.
Hope you don't break a leg.

[W4GPL]

Our long national nightmare is over!

Twinkies return to the grocery store shelves this weekend! ;)

[KG4CGC]

Our long national nightmare is over!

Twinkies return to the grocery store shelves this weekend! ;)

But now the recipe is changed and they contain Chinese anti-freeze. Shelf life you know.
Hey, if yer gonna go with a rumor ...

[K7SGJ]

Our long national nightmare is over!

Twinkies return to the grocery store shelves this weekend! ;)

Thank God. I was down to a case of the ones I bought in 1964. I've been putting them in a blender with a liter of water, blend on high for 10 minutes, then I administer the solution via IV.

[kb2vxa]

Well, now I can save myself those long trips to Montreal and those snoopy border guards asking if I have anything to declare. Now I'll send them a postcard with my Walmart Declaration; I gocher Twinkies right HERE! Yeah Walmart, Chinese antifreeze you know... cellulose gum, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate, sodium chloride, mono and diglycerides, soy lecithin, polysorbate 60, dextrin, calcium caseinate, sodium stearoyl lactylate, calcium sulphate, artificial flavors, yellow No. 5, red #40 and a whole lot of hydrogen monoxide.

Hey, waddyamean "thank God"? Anything HostASS is the devil's own invention. Yeah Wonder Bread, fishermen love it not for sandwiches but for the best dough ball bait on the planet, sticks together like cement.

[n2ize]

Patchouli and sandalwood oil were unavoidable in the 70s. Low blue clouds of dope smoke--courtesy of $10 an oz weed--the scent of patchouli--a bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill--and Barry White on the 8 track.

Some of the more negative aspects of the 70's. I never could stand the smell of patchouli or sandalwood. They have this perfume oil called "opium" which I always liked. There was an incence made from it that the Islamic vendors in NYC used to sell. I used to burn that occaisionaly. Otherwise I woul;d burn pure Ethiopian Frankincence resin. Boones Farm...yuck.



Now, where were we? Oh yeah. Even Frankenstein's monster could get laid in those days...


That has always been true since the beginnings of human life and right on up to the present and likely the future. Getting laid was never a problem.

[WØTKX]

http://www.johnmariani.com/archive/2006/060924/Deep-Fried-Twinkies-6-05.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Deep-fried_twinkie.jpg

[KJ3N]

http://www.johnmariani.com/archive/2006/060924/Deep-Fried-Twinkies-6-05.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Deep-fried_twinkie.jpg

That is just so wrong.... :hand:

[WØTKX]

Yea, but they are actually kind of tasty.

[W7XF]

Ingredient label for Twinkies: 18 year old anorexic male who loves receptive....oh, those OTHER Twinkies???
Then it's : Sugar, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup, lactose, partially hydrogenised lard, polyethlyene glycol, preservatives, more preservatives, dihydrogen monoxide,
insulin, and an appointment for cardiac catheterisation.

[n2ize]

That is just so wrong.... :hand:

It's a clear cut path right to the hospital. Or , to get to meet the Grim Reaper.

[kb2vxa]

Don't look now but "Twinkies" never went anywhere, they're healthy and I aught to know.

[NA4BH]

Only thing better was the Willy Wonka Scrunch Bar. You didn't have to eat them, they ate themselves in your mouth.

[kb2vxa]

Ain't no wonky willie goin' in MY mouth!

[K7SGJ]

Only thing better was the Willy Wonka Scrunch Bar. You didn't have to eat them, they ate themselves in your mouth.

Their quality control sucks. Last one I opened had a whole bunch of gold colored trash paper in it. Probably advertisements or something, I just chucked it in the trash without even reading it. Bastids

[WØTKX]

OK, deep fried butter on a stick.

http://jenniferbrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/deep-fried-butter.jpg

[suddenseer]

Ingredient label for Twinkies: 18 year old anorexic male who loves receptive....oh, those OTHER Twinkies???
Then it's : Sugar, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup, lactose, partially hydrogenised lard, polyethlyene glycol, preservatives, more preservatives, dihydrogen monoxide,
insulin, and an appointment for cardiac catheterisation.Maybe the 18 year old anorexic male is just as bad for your heart as the aforementioned baked product?

[kb2vxa]

How about deep fried 18 year old anorexic male on a stick?

[suddenseer]

How about deep fried 18 year old anorexic male on a stick?I'd settle for a slightly sun burnt 30 year old chubby guy.(if he is cute)

[W7XF]

I'd settle for a slightly sun burnt 30 year old chubby guy.(if he is cute)
What about a 52 year old big bear?

[suddenseer]

What about a 52 year old big bear?As long as he does not smoke (tobacco) in my home, or around me. My ex smoked a pack a day. He would have to like to snuggle with me, and watch indie movies on netflix, and hulu +. This is where I lose most of them, He would have to accept my neurotic family as his own (my ex's family was weirder than mine). Most important: He would have to accept the fact that I am a grandfather to 2 grandkids. This is where I have lost all but 2 men. I like to watch the Buckeyes on Saturday, and the Bengals on Sunday as well. On edit: my 600 watt amp/speaker combo for my bass guitars can be very loud for the one room setting they are in. If I get back in a band, we will probably practice in the basement. Most guys cannot handle this.

[W7XF]

Well....I don't smoke, don't drink alkie, ride crotch rockets (the ones with two wheels), have my own radios.....but can you handle an autistic bear?

ETA: A diehard Raiders fan.

[suddenseer]

Well....I don't smoke, don't drink alkie, ride crotch rockets (the ones with two wheels), have my own radios.....but can you handle an autistic bear?j5ū77

ETA: A diehard Raiders fan.The Raiders thing might be hard to deal with. LOL.

[N7YA]

Football....killer of all potential beautiful beginnings.

[K7SGJ]

Ain't it the truth? Get all the way to the one yard line and pffft gone in a heartbeat.

[N2RJ]

Has anyone tasted the new twinkies? Are they the same as the original?

[kb2vxa]

I don't know, I never tasted a Twinkie.

[N7YA]

Has anyone tasted the new twinkies? Are they the same as the original?


Yep, the strategic marketing plan tastes the same. More shit that will clog up your arteries and eventually cost us our feet.

[N7YA]

I don't know, I never tasted a Twinkie.

I think thats a dancing bear. Probably Russian.

[NQ6U]

Yep, the strategic marketing plan tastes the same. More shit that will clog up your arteries and eventually cost us our feet.

Maybe, but who needs feet any more now that we got cars?

[kb2vxa]

Twinkies last 10,000 years, Hostess cried a billion tears,
For what, we never knew. Now Debby's reign is through.
But through eternal night, Twinkies in starlight.
So very far away, Maybe it's only yesterday.

[N7YA]

Maybe, but who needs feet any more now that we got cars?

Welll...brakes and gas.

[W7XF]

THIS is a twinkie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

[N7YA]

....whose ship has sailed.

[kb2vxa]

It didn't get very far.