Compact Disc turns 30

[kf0rt]

http://www.whathifi.com/blog/the-cd-is-30-years-old-today

Whoda thunk it?

[ki4itv]

They were oversold and disappointed me from the start, I never liked them after that.

[ki4itv]

...uhmmm, except for the repeat feature. Especially when I discovered I could repeat sections of songs endlessly. That rocked.

[kf0rt]

I got a Sony CDP-102 deck back in late '84 or early '85. First album was John Fogerty's Centerfield (wasn't much to pick from). Man, that was soooo much better than LP's. :lol:

[ki4itv]

Wasn't far behind you...got a nice pioneer system 87 or so. Immediately started noticing what I thought were quality control issues with some of the disc. I was under the impression (hype) that they would last forever never having to replace them.
Quickly found out that is not so. I guess my lifestyle was not conducive to the care of fragile disc after a life littered with abused, but forgiving, cassettes.

[n2ize]

Even when cassette tapes were still popular I was envisioning a static device (like a memory stick) which would contain media (music,etc) in digitized format and which would be played by simply plugging it into a computer or device with no mechanical parts. Only problem was that in those days such memory was not to be readily found.

[KC2UGV]

Even when cassette tapes were still popular I was envisioning a static device (like a memory stick) which would contain media (music,etc) in digitized format and which would be played by simply plugging it into a computer or device with no mechanical parts. Only problem was that in those days such memory was not to be readily found.

Hell, in those days, you could make your own memory by hand on a loom:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/KL_CoreMemory.jpg/600px-KL_CoreMemory.jpg

[W5GA]

Is that a Navajo piece?

[kf0rt]

Is that a Navajo piece?

64 bytes worth -- not enough to hold a drum beat.

[KG4CGC]

When we went digital, we lost the sound. The ones and zeros only touch spots along the full spectrum of the line representing the sound.

Imagine a board along a set of stairs. The board is the sound. The stairs are the digital equivalent. The triangular spaces between the stairs and under each section of board is the lost sound that ones and zeros can not recover.

[KC2UGV]

When we went digital, we lost the sound. The ones and zeros only touch spots along the full spectrum of the line representing the sound.

Imagine a board along a set of stairs. The board is the sound. The stairs are the digital equivalent. The triangular spaces between the stairs and under each section of board is the lost sound that ones and zeros can not recover.

And yet, smooth surfaces still "feel" smooth, even thought a smooth surface has numerous cracks, bumps, etc etc.

[KC2UGV]

Is that a Navajo piece?

Magnetic core memory :)

[KG4CGC]

And yet, smooth surfaces still "feel" smooth, even thought a smooth surface has numerous cracks, bumps, etc etc.

Bullshit equivalency. The sound is lost. Musicians and aficionados can tell. Don't be an audiofool.

[KC2UGV]

Bullshit equivalency. The sound is lost. Musicians and aficionados can tell. Don't be an audiofool.

Musicians and aficionados can also "tell the difference" between oxygen free copper cables, and regular copper cables.

[KG4CGC]

Musicians and aficionados can also "tell the difference" between oxygen free copper cables, and regular copper cables.

Now you're just being a spiteful asshole. This is a serious topic. The music (record labels) industry fucked us on the sound to make higher profits. We all got fucked because we lost our choices.

[KC9ECI]

First player for me was late 86 and my first CD was Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms.

[W2NAP]

but you can still buy records man!

[NQ6U]

my first CD was Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms.

Same here. Still a fine disc, IMHO.

[KC9ECI]

Same here. Still a fine disc, IMHO.

I think I might listen to it tonight when I hit the bunk.

Meanwhile, according to lastFM, my top 12 tracks are:


Jethro Tull – Locomotive Breath
Focus – Hocus Pocus
Marilyn Manson – Tainted Love
Sweet – Fox On The Run
Billy Joel – My Life
Foreigner – Jukebox Hero
AC/DC – Highway to Hell
Ozzy Osbourne – Crazy Train
Ramones – Blitzkrieg Bop
Styx – Mr. Roboto
Paper Lace – The Night Chicago Died
Aerosmith – Sweet Emotion
John Fogerty – Centerfield
The Buggles – Video Killed the Radio Star

[WØTKX]

Bullshit equivalency. The sound is lost. Musicians and aficionados can tell. Don't be an audiofool.

Depends on the sample rate, and it helps to not bullcrap around with too much expansion and compression. I'm happier with modern high end digital files than early CD stuff. Noticeable with a lot of the jazz I listen too, plain old rock and roll, not so much.

I have some high end LP tunes encoded properly into digital, and it's very nice. There is a point of diminishing returns. And I was a major tape wonk... much preferred my reel to reel than cassette, back in the day. For good reason.

Anybody remember the S-ANRS stuff? ;)

[W2NAP]

just think we could all be using 8 track....

[KC2UGV]

Now you're just being a spiteful asshole.

Um, Duh?

:lol:


This is a serious topic. The music (record labels) industry fucked us on the sound to make higher profits. We all got fucked because we lost our choices.

You can still buy vinyl, tape, and reel (I think). Many forward-thing musicians also release FLAC lossless (ie NIN).

[KG4CGC]

No. I want to have a tantrum and ponder the entropy of a board on a staircase.

[KC2UGV]

No. I want to have a tantrum and ponder the entropy of a board on a staircase.

Oh yeah, I remember that one now lol

[kf0rt]

The music (record labels) industry fucked us on the sound to make higher profits. We all got fucked because we lost our choices.

Well, but that has nothing to do with modern digital capabilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

Somewhere around here, I've got a DVD-A of Brothers In Arms. It's stunning in all it's bitwise glory. :lol:
For non-music, fire up Master & Commander on a decent DTS system. You're THERE.

[KG4NEL]

just think we could all be using 8 track....

Icepick to the eardrums, Trotsky-style.

[KB3LAZ]

http://www.whathifi.com/blog/the-cd-is-30-years-old-today

Whoda thunk it?

The CD is older than me? That is depressing.

[NQ6U]

The CD is older than me? That is depressing.

Get off my lawn, kid.

[kb2vxa]

Don't Step On The Grass, Sam. Now if you remember that song you're mummified, a common effect of what we did in our feckless youth.