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KC2IFR
05-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Watch PBS if u want to really understand what happened to our economy.............
KC2IFR
05-01-2012, 08:13 PM
PBS? That's socialism!
That opinion is bullshit..........
Bill
That opinion is bullshit..........
Bill
I agree. And that was the point.
W1GUH
05-01-2012, 08:29 PM
Watch PBS if u want to really understand what happened to our economy.............
Watch PBS? When? Now? Anytime? Last week? What show? And what was it about.
KG4CGC
05-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Frontline? What?
NA4BH
05-01-2012, 09:01 PM
This old house?
WØTKX
05-01-2012, 09:26 PM
Wait, wait, don't tell me! Well, that's NPR. ;)
Bill Moyers has a new show, it's excellent.
And PBS has always had the best news and analysis.
W2NAP
05-01-2012, 09:32 PM
RedGreen
KC2UGV
05-02-2012, 07:04 AM
Watch PBS if u want to really understand what happened to our economy.............
Which show(s), in particular?
ab1ga
05-02-2012, 07:12 AM
RedGreen
He kept his stick on the ice for fifteen years!
At least the girls find him handy.
73,
WØTKX
05-02-2012, 07:13 AM
Well, after all that, I think the OP posted about "Inside the MeltDown". It's pretty good.
The partisans will find it full of lies and errors, of course.
You can watch the whole show online here:
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/#morelink)Inside the Meltdown
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/#morelink)
As the housing bubble burst and trillions of dollars' worth of toxic mortgages began to go bad in 2007, fear spread through the massive firms (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/cron/) that form the heart of Wall Street. By the spring of 2008, burdened by billions of dollars of bad mortgages, the investment bank Bear Stearns was the subject of rumors that it would soon fail.
"Rumors are such that they can just plain put you out of business," Bear Stearns' former CEO Alan "Ace" Greenberg (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/interviews/greenberg.html) tells FRONTLINE.
The company's stock had dropped from $171 to $57 a share, and it was hours from declaring bankruptcy. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/themes/bernanke.html) acted. "It was clear that this had to be contained. There was no doubt in his mind," says Bernanke's colleague, economist Mark Gertler (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/interviews/gertler.html).
Bernanke, a former economics professor from Princeton, specialized in studying the Great Depression. "He more than anybody else appreciated what would happen if it got out of control," Gertler explains.
To stabilize the markets, Bernanke engineered a shotgun marriage between Bear Sterns and the commercial bank JPMorgan, with a promise that the federal government would use $30 billion to cover Bear Stearns' questionable assets tied to toxic mortgages. It was an unprecedented effort (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/themes/bear.html) to stop the contagion of fear that seemed to be threatening the rest of Wall Street.
While publicly supportive of the deal, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/themes/paulson.html), a former Wall Street executive with Goldman Sachs, was uncomfortable with government interference in the markets. That summer, he issued a warning to his former colleagues not to expect future government bailouts, saying he was concerned about a legal concept known as moral hazard.
Within months, however, Paulson would witness the virtual collapse of the giant mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/themes/fannie.html) and preside over their takeover by the federal government.
The episode sent shockwaves through the economy as confidence in Wall Street began to evaporate. Within days, in September 2008, another investment bank, Lehman Brothers, was on the brink of collapse. Once again, there were calls for Bernanke and Paulson to bail out the Wall Street giant. But Paulson was under intense political pressure from conservative Republicans in Washington to invoke moral hazard and let the company fail.
"You had a conservative secretary of the Treasury and conservative administration. There was right-wing criticism over Bear Stearns," says Congressman Barney Frank (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/interviews/frank.html) (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.
Paulson pushed Lehman's CEO Dick Fuld to find a buyer for his ailing company. But no company would buy Lehman unless the government offered a deal similar to the one Bear Stearns had received. Paulson refused, and Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy.
FRONTLINE then chronicles the disaster that followed (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/themes/lehman.html). Within 24 hours, the stock market crashed, and credit markets around the world froze. "We're no longer talking about mortgages," says economist Gertler. "We're talking about car loans, loans to small businesses, commercial paper borrowing by large banks. This is like a disease spreading."
"I think that the secretary of the Treasury could not fully comprehend what that linkage was and the extent to which this would materialize into problems," says former Lehman board member Henry Kaufman.
Paulson was thunderstruck. "This is the utter nightmare of an economic policy-maker," Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/interviews/krugman.html) tells FRONTLINE. "You may have just made the decision that destroyed the world. Absolutely terrifying moment."
In response, Paulson and Bernanke would propose -- and Congress would eventually pass -- a $700 billion bailout plan. FRONTLINE goes inside the deliberations surrounding the passage of the legislation and examines its unsuccessful implementation.
"Many Americans still don't understand what has happened to the economy," FRONTLINE producer/director Michael Kirk (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/story/2009/02/the-making-of.html) says. "How did it all go so bad so quickly? Who is responsible? How effective has the response from Washington and Wall Street been? Those are the questions at the heart of Inside the Meltdown."
K7SGJ
05-02-2012, 08:54 AM
Shit, and here I thought that was all about Global Warming.
suddenseer
05-02-2012, 12:12 PM
I tuned the tv to my local PBS stations, and broke off the knob.
WØTKX
05-02-2012, 12:20 PM
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Shouldn't those go to 11?
K7SGJ
05-02-2012, 01:30 PM
The contour did.
WØTKX
05-02-2012, 01:42 PM
I think the premise of "Post EQ" is pretty funny, round here and all.
As is "Countour", "Tilt", and "Presense".
Well, im not going to learn much about the failure of the economy on PBS with this gardening show thats on.
But i AM learning some great uses for pavers and cedar planks for my garden! :-D
Sometimes it pays to be a night owl.
KC2UGV
05-04-2012, 07:27 AM
Well, im not going to learn much about the failure of the economy on PBS with this gardening show thats on.
But i AM learning some great uses for pavers and cedar planks for my garden! :-D
Sometimes it pays to be a night owl.
Hm, what's the show name?
WØTKX
05-04-2012, 07:53 AM
Maybe "Victory Garden"?
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