Paranormal and Ghosthunting

[KB2SFH]

Any hams beside me want to do this?

[NQ6U]

Any hams beside me want to do this?

Hunt for something that doesn't exist? Hell, we do that every fourth November...

[KC2UGV]

I did this quite a bit in the past; and still do from time to time. I stopped most of my work due to idiots in the community here. Nobody wanted to actually research and investigate anything; and just want to get their own ParaTV show.

[KC2UGV]

Hunt for something that doesn't exist? Hell, we do that every fourth November...

I will hazard many of the "paranormal phenomena" do in fact occur. If they are caused by ghost? That I doubt.

[NQ6U]

I will hazard many of the "paranormal phenomena" do in fact occur. If they are caused by ghost? That I doubt.

That things happen which are not readily explainable is inarguable. That they amount to the "paranormal" (denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding), however, is a whole other thing. It's simply that some of these things happen too quickly and/or infrequently to allow them to be studied properly.

[KB2SFH]

I have had amazing personal experiences with both negative and peaceful entities years ago in a friends home and at past workplaces. The negatives were in my friends home and I actually was shoved down a flight of stairs after I felt unseen hands grab my head and yank me backwards into a wall, not fun and I won't f*ck around with those kind of entities that's for sure.

[WØTKX]

Skink hunt? ;)

[KJ3N]

Paranormal and Ghosthunting

I give such nonsense about the same consideration as I give that other fairy tale call The Bible. :roll:

Never saw anything, or experienced anything that would lead me to give any of it any credence. Figments of an over-active imagination.... :hand:

[KB2SFH]

I give such nonsense about the same consideration as I give that other fairy tale call The Bible. :roll:

Never saw anything, or experienced anything that would lead me to give any of it any credence. Figments of an over-active imagination.... :hand:

No overactive imagination here.

[ka8ncr]

Paranormal activity exists. My wife has the unique ability to know exactly if I've spent money at a hamfest.

[KJ3N]

Paranormal activity exists. My wife has the unique ability to know exactly if I've spent money at a hamfest.

:rofl:

[N2CHX]

I used to do it a lot, but yeah, I echo exactly what Corey says. In fact, the last group I was a part of I got booted from when the leader found out I was friends with Corey. It was pretty funny. Actually, she didn't completely boot me from her group. I wasn't allowed to volunteer at her facility anymore but she still wanted me around, probably because I have more equipment, expertise and connections to commercial media than anyone in the area. I told her to go eff herself.

[W2NAP]

the truth is out there.

[n2ize]

Well. I have my extreme doubts about paranormal activity but, to each his own and if its done scientifically without jumping to conclusions or without creating unfounded conspiracy theories i see no harm in it.

Personally however, I have had no paranormal activity that can not be explained scientifically. So I tend to have doubts.

[NA4BH]

Out of all the ghost shows on TV, I'll watch Ghost Hunters. They seem like they're on the up and up. The other shows have the exorcisms and the mediums (that talk to the spooks). Even the Ghost Hunters International is a little hokie, they're all the time saying "Did you hear that or did you see that" and never back it up. The Ghost Hunters debunk most of the claims that the client states happen.

When my son was three, he told us about an encounter with my grandmother/his great grandmother. The only time he was ever in contact with her was when he was 3 months old. He told us what she looked like, her name, and a phrase that she used to tell us little kids back in the '60s.

[kf0rt]

Out of all the ghost shows on TV, I'll watch Ghost Hunters. They seem like they're on the up and up. The other shows have the exorcisms and the mediums (that talk to the spooks). Even the Ghost Hunters International is a little hokie, they're all the time saying "Did you hear that or did you see that" and never back it up. The Ghost Hunters debunk most of the claims that the client states happen.

When my son was three, he told us about an encounter with my grandmother/his great grandmother. The only time he was ever in contact with her was when he was 3 months old. He told us what she looked like, her name, and a phrase that she used to tell us little kids back in the '60s.

I've got that channel blocked here and never pushed a button.

Totally agnostic at this point.

[n2ize]

I've got that channel blocked here and never pushed a button.

Totally agnostic at this point.


+10000000000000 There is no paranormal activity. There are no ghosts.

[w2amr]

Any hams beside me want to do this?
Sorry, I'm busy that day.

[KC2UGV]

+10000000000000 There is no paranormal activity. There are no ghosts.

That's a tall order. How do you propose to prove your negative statement there :)

[KB2SFH]

Out of all the ghost shows on TV, I'll watch Ghost Hunters. They seem like they're on the up and up. The other shows have the exorcisms and the mediums (that talk to the spooks). Even the Ghost Hunters International is a little hokie, they're all the time saying "Did you hear that or did you see that" and never back it up. The Ghost Hunters debunk most of the claims that the client states happen.

When my son was three, he told us about an encounter with my grandmother/his great grandmother. The only time he was ever in contact with her was when he was 3 months old. He told us what she looked like, her name, and a phrase that she used to tell us little kids back in the '60s.


That's awesome!

[AB5S]

Unfortunately, the Paranormal field is just like the so-called "UFO" field;
There's so much bullcrap out there and so many "true-believers" being
sheared by so many con-men, you can't separate the wheat from the chaff.
Personally, I have my own understanding in both fields
and don't give a hoot what anyone else thinks about them.
We'll all find out on Judgement Day (Yep; I believe in that one).

As for the OP's question: I know from personal experience
that there is a conflict going on behind our backs and outside our perceptions,
but I don't believe for a minute in "ghosts."
Randy put it best when he said:
"Grandma always says she loves you, but she never says
where she hide the Will."
I think television "ghost hunters" and "mediums" who "contact the dead"
are fools at best and frauds at worst.
Every time I see camera optic artifacts and dust motes called
"spirit orbs" I roll my eyes.

The vast majority of so-called "EVPs" are random noises that have been
"anthro-pized" by the brain "filling-in the blanks"
as evolution and The Almighty designed it to do.
That, and so-called "hunters" TELLING people "did you just hear "GET OUT!"?
Oh please....
Here's an experiment: "Don't you DARE think of a pink rabbit!"
Guess what you can't help but think of?
Same with "Did you hear such-and-such?"
Well of course you do, after his kind SUGGESTION.
You can't help it. It's just "being human."

Now all that being said, you who call yourself "rationalist"
go to the next thread :lol:.

In the past, I have worked on a personal theory concerning
this "other" reality involving the use of technology.
While most experiments have returned no results,
a few have, and results I cannot rationalize-away.

I write this only to encourage the OP to pursue his interest.
I do not wish to collaborate with anyone or publicly post
results to be used as fodder for those who practice the
"religion of Self"* Never hand your ideas and dreams
over to the mob; they will not consider them seriously
but they will crush and belittle them,
because they feel good about themselves only by degrading others.
Remember the parable of "pearls before swine."
Follow your own lights.

GL OM ES 73 DE Dave AB5S

* The Atheist's Ten Commandments

1. *I* am the Lord my God. I shall have not other gods before *ME.*
2-10. Don't get caught....

[KB2SFH]

You can't top personal experiences and I have had several.

[n2ize]

That's a tall order. How do you propose to prove your negative statement there :)

I consider the existance of such things so improbable that I pass them off as non-existent. Nice for ghost stories but that's about it. When was the last time you had a chat with a ghost ? Or a man in the sky ?

[n2ize]

You can't top personal experiences and I have had several.

I've had some personal experiences which seemed linked to the "paranormal" but which are actually normal and have rational explanations founded in the here and now.

[WØTKX]

I've had three "solid" ghost or entity experiences, one where I actually vocalized "why I was there", and the experience ended.

One other is best described as a UFO, and others saw it too. Dunno WTF that was, but it was pretty cool.

Call me a skeptical believer... and I'm very skeptical of the human limitation... the well of perception.

But hey, I do like pulling the tail of Schrodinger's Cat.

[AB5S]

I... When was the last time you had a chat with... a man in the sky ?
This morning... ;)

[NQ6U]

Originally Posted by n2izev
When was the last time you had a chat with... a man in the sky ?
This morning... ;)

Do the guys in the police helicopter count?

[KJ3N]

Do the guys in the police helicopter count?

Only if you're wearing your tin foil hat.

[kb2vxa]

"You can't top personal experiences and I have had several."

Well Pookie, I've had a few myself rather weird but possibly, I say possibly explainable and one that lasted a good 15-20 minutes that was beyond even a sci-fi writer's imagination. If it wasn't truly paranormal (beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation) I don't know what is. Many may speculate, I don't, it is what it is and that's all that it is, WAY beyond any rational thought. Here's the kicker, it had nothing to do with the usual spiritual stuff, alternate realities, different dimensions or dark quantum places of the mind you see in a plethora of TV shows these days, rather one of those screwball things nobody wants to talk about. I don't mind if people think I'm crazy, I rather like it. My reputation precedes me like an invisible fence saving me the trouble of shouting GET OFF MY LAWN!

"But hey, I do like pulling the tail of Schrodinger's Cat."
Robert A. Heinlein gave him a name, Pixel. Next time you see him sleeping on the console of The Gay Deceiver be sure to pet him and tell him I said hello. <blert>

[N2CHX]

"You can't top personal experiences and I have had several."

Robert A. Heinlein gave him a name, Pixel. Next time you see him sleeping on the console of The Gay Deceiver be sure to pet him and tell him I said hello. <blert>

Pixel is running for president. 5684

[KB2SFH]

Don't call me Pookie!!!!:angry:

[KC2UGV]

I consider the existance of such things so improbable that I pass them off as non-existent. Nice for ghost stories but that's about it. When was the last time you had a chat with a ghost ? Or a man in the sky ?

I've never had an encounter with a ghost, but I've never had an encounter with a piranha either...

[n2ize]

Do the guys in the police helicopter count?

Funny you should say this... Now I actually DO believe in Ghosts. It's a long story and I am not going to go into it here. Let's just say I just heard something during dinner concerning a house, ghosts, and it sort of ties in with a police helicopter.

Now I am not so sure that ghosts/paranormal do not exist.

[NQ6U]

Funny you should say this... Now I actually DO believe in Ghosts. It's a long story and I am not going to go into it here. Let's just say I just heard something during dinner concerning a house, ghosts, and it sort of ties in with a police helicopter.

Now I am not so sure that ghosts/paranormal do not exist.

Nah, what you heard was just Hajji Rudi flying by in his pink Bell 47 with APU.

[KJ3N]

Nah, what you heard was just Hajji Rudi flying by in his pink Bell 47 with APU.

Did he have a UT standing by?

[VE7DCW]

Did he have a UT standing by?

He probably had the spirit of the OL hanging around ...... :yes:

[n2ize]

Here is conclusive proof that ghosts do indeed exist. (Warning... watch at yoour own risk. This is extremely terrifying. I am not responsible for bad dreams, etc.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laQY0ECov_k

[N7YA]

I never...ever...under any circumstance, try to convince anyone of the reality of the paranormal. Pretty much every believer was a hardcore skeptic prior to their experience. After that, they simply dont talk about it because of threads like this one.

Ive had experiences and im a very skeptical person. Im also very analytical and actively look for natural causes to things, when i cant explain it away...and i couldnt...then i have to chalk it up to a personal experience.


And most ghost shows are shit, by the way.


'SFH, i dont know you, but you wont find too many followers here, just go for it on your own and always remain as skeptical and scientific as possible...and prepare to be made fun of because thats what folks do. Just do it for yourself, thats the best way. Good luck.

[N7YA]

Pixel is running for president. 5684


Im a cat man...and Pixel has my vote! :agree:

[kb2vxa]

"I'm a cat man...and Pixel has my vote!"

<blert>

[N7YA]

....unless, of course, my Persian...Chubbs...decides to run.

[kb2vxa]

An Iranian president? I don't think so.

[ki4itv]

why not? We have an unborn Kenyan Socialist with a remarkably conservative record in there now.
Should be a breeze...

[N7YA]

Chubbs is a Persian, afterall, his speeches wont be much to remember....mostly he will fall asleep at the podium, only to awaken in time for dinner.


Hell, we had 8 years of that! Like Trey said, should be a breeze. :lol: