Google To Buy Motorola Mobility

[W3WN]

Google has announced the purchase of the cell-phone part of Motorola (split as a separate company a year or two ago)

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8307020 (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8307020)

[K7SGJ]

More Monopoly in high gear. Milton Bradley would be proud

[KC2UGV]

More Monopoly in high gear. Milton Bradley would be proud

There are a whole lot of phone manufacturers out there. Owning the lateral markets (OS, Hardware) is hardly a monopoly. Unless you consider Apple to be a monopoly?

[K7SGJ]

True, but seeing all the big names buying everything they can get their hands always brings the board game to mind. Same thing is happening to patents and other intellectual property. The big names are buying up all they can in order to stifle (spelled SUE) the other big, and small, players. I still don't understand how one can patent many of these things. Copyright yes. NPR had a great piece on these a couple of weeks ago. If you have time, give a listen.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=441

[KC2UGV]

True, but seeing all the big names buying everything they can get their hands always brings the board game to mind. Same thing is happening to patents and other intellectual property. The big names are buying up all they can in order to stifle (spelled SUE) the other big, and small, players. I still don't understand how one can patent many of these things. Copyright yes. NPR had a great piece on these a couple of weeks ago. If you have time, give a listen.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=441

I already listened :) 2 weeks ago :lol:

I agree. Google tends to abide by their "Do no evil" mantra as far as patents. They obtain patents to use defensively in lawsuits.

[kb2vxa]

Consider the catfish, call the corporations what you like but when it comes to sheer greed eating everything in sight there are few like the catfish. The environment is the only limiting factor, the larger the body of water and the more food is available the bigger it gets. Try this yourself to see it with your own eyes. I had one in an aquarium with other fish and fed them small worms but the cat was so greedy it snatched most of them from the others. This continued until it was so swollen it looked like a football with fins but still it gobbled every worm until it's belly could hold no more and its mouth was full, yet it continued until it choked to death.

So what's the moral of the story? I can't say for sure but considering the environment Google may eventually eat the whole world and choke on it.

[NQ6U]

Here's an interesting take (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/08/15/google-moves-android-from-a-playsforsure-strategy-to-zune-strategy/) on Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility.

[KG4CGC]

Here's an interesting take (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/08/15/google-moves-android-from-a-playsforsure-strategy-to-zune-strategy/) on Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility.
If this sounds as penny wise and pound foolish as Michelle Bachman saying the US can’t afford to extend unemployment benefits while she collects more than a million dollars a year from Medicare payments, farm subsidies and wages on the Federal dime, then yes, you must be of at least moderate intelligence.HAAH!

[KC2UGV]

Here's an interesting take (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/08/15/google-moves-android-from-a-playsforsure-strategy-to-zune-strategy/) on Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility.


Google’s Android is facing some core problems, but to its fans, things are awesome. At the lowest level, Android incorporates Linux, the “most devotedly open” OS kernel. Companies run by smart people avoid Linux and its GPL religion because such fantasy-ideology is toxic to progress (and profits).

I'll make sure I tell the largest internet presences on the internet that LAMP is in no way the right way to run things. This will be a game changer for:
* Google
* Facebook
* Craigslist
* PriceGrabber
* Yahoo!

All of these companies are doing it wrong! They should be RUNNING AWAY from a LAMP stack...

I hate it when business folks try to talk tech.

[NQ6U]

I'll make sure I tell the largest internet presences on the internet that LAMP is in no way the right way to run things. This will be a game changer for:
* Google
* Facebook
* Craigslist
* PriceGrabber
* Yahoo!

All of these companies are doing it wrong! They should be RUNNING AWAY from a LAMP stack...

I hate it when business folks try to talk tech.

Actually, the guy who writes that blog is a tech guy and he was referring to hardware companies.

[KC2UGV]

Actually, the guy who writes that blog is a tech guy and he was referring to hardware companies.

He fails on that accord too:
https://meego.com/
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/linux/
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/index.htm
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/index.html
Methinks he's not much of a tech guy, either. GPL, Open Source, and Hardware go hand in hand. But, it appears his article was pointing towards companies that base their stacks

[NQ6U]

He fails on that accord too:
https://meego.com/
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/linux/
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/index.htm
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/index.html
Methinks he's not much of a tech guy, either. GPL, Open Source, and Hardware go hand in hand. But, it appears his article was pointing towards companies that base their stacks

You're missing the point—the writer isn't saying that no one uses GPL licensed software, only that he feels that idealogical aspects of the GPL license make it less suitable for building a business model upon it than the Apache/BSD/MIT style open license. It's an opinion piece, after all.

[W3WN]

He fails on that accord too:
https://meego.com/
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/linux/
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/index.htm
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/index.html
Methinks he's not much of a tech guy, either. GPL, Open Source, and Hardware go hand in hand. But, it appears his article was pointing towards companies that base their stacksYeah, he's a schmuck. But he's got you talking about him, right?

[KC2UGV]

You're missing the point—the writer isn't saying that no one uses GPL licensed software, only that he feels that idealogical aspects of the GPL license make it less suitable for building a business model upon it than the Apache/BSD/MIT style open license. It's an opinion piece, after all.

Apparently, he's wrong. Many very successful companies have built a business model around GPL. GPL works very nicely with business models. He is too constrained in his way of thinking is the problem.

[NQ6U]

Apparently, he's wrong. Many very successful companies have built a business model around GPL. GPL works very nicely with business models. He is too constrained in his way of thinking is the problem.

That may very well be true, I'm not defending his position on it, but it doesn't necessarily negate the rest of the article. Dilger's past predictions have been pretty accurate, so it will be interesting to see if this one is as well.

[KC2UGV]

That may very well be true, I'm not defending his position on it, but it doesn't necessarily negate the rest of the article. Dilger's past predictions have been pretty accurate, so it will be interesting to see if this one is as well.

50% of the time I'm right 100%.

[n2ize]

Consider the catfish, call the corporations what you like but when it comes to sheer greed eating everything in sight there are few like the catfish. The environment is the only limiting factor, the larger the body of water and the more food is available the bigger it gets. Try this yourself to see it with your own eyes. I had one in an aquarium with other fish and fed them small worms but the cat was so greedy it snatched most of them from the others. This continued until it was so swollen it looked like a football with fins but still it gobbled every worm until it's belly could hold no more and its mouth was full, yet it continued until it choked to death.

So what's the moral of the story? I can't say for sure but considering the environment Google may eventually eat the whole world and choke on it.

What kind of catfish was it ? I've been keeping fish for almost 30 years and I never had a catfish actually eat itself to death.. Also I have found different types of cats to behave differently. Some of the Asian cats like the iridescent "shark" tended to be very cautious and timid at feeding time. Others , like the channel cats more aggressive eaters. Others seemed to avoid food altogether at feeding time and instead fed themselves by continually scavenging the bottom of the tank (aka bottom feeders). I always used to keep a few cats of various types and a few crayfish to keep the bottom of the tank clean.

[n2ize]

I'll make sure I tell the largest internet presences on the internet that LAMP is in no way the right way to run things. This will be a game changer for:
* Google
* Facebook
* Craigslist
* PriceGrabber
* Yahoo!

All of these companies are doing it wrong! They should be RUNNING AWAY from a LAMP stack...

I hate it when business folks try to talk tech.

Reading the blog the guy obviously has contempt for Linux / GPL / Free Software. He is merely using his critique of Google as a platform to attack the GPL and Free software. I've seen a lot of soo called "tech writers" and "business writers" go off on the "bash GPL / Linux / Free Sortware / its users / etc.." tangent time and time again.

[KC2UGV]

Reading the blog the guy obviously has contempt for Linux / GPL / Free Software. He is merely using his critique of Google as a platform to attack the GPL and Free software. I've seen a lot of soo called "tech writers" and "business writers" go off on the "bash GPL / Linux / Free Sortware / its users / etc.." tangent time and time again.

It's exactly my point. He doesn't like open source, so he attacks Google on grounds of using open source... And, is pissed because they are doing a better job than 2 closed sourced solutions.

[n2ize]

It's exactly my point. He doesn't like open source, so he attacks Google on grounds of using open source... And, is pissed because they are doing a better job than 2 closed sourced solutions.

I've been using free software since the early 90's and over the time I have read one scathing attack after another against free software. I've heard everything from "it's too complicated" to "it's not for the enterprise" to "it's horrid and it doesn't work" to "closed source is the ONLY way to go". Years ago a friend of mine told me his bosses IT policy was , "only Microsoft...closed source / proprietary is the only way to go...those other solutions are insecure and don't work". Funny, right at that same time I was getting bombarded by bogus emails from malware / viruses that had infiltrated his bosses network and usurped his email server and was harvesting email addy's and sending out bogus emails.. Matter of fact, I was the one who told him to bring it to his boss's attention. Eventually, after repeated attacks and downtime his boss finally conceded and looked into some free software / open source solutions. Now instead of constant downtime and headaches the network is up all the time and they are actually getting real work done instead of troubleshooting.

[kb2vxa]

"What kind of catfish was it?"
Plain old Jersey catfish.

"I've been keeping fish for almost 30 years and I never had a catfish actually eat itself to death."
Either those you had were smarter than mine or you just didn't feed them enough live worms.

"Some of the Asian cats like the iridescent "shark" tended to be very cautious and timid at feeding time. ... and instead fed themselves by continually scavenging the bottom of the tank (aka bottom feeders)."
I had a couple of them when I had tropical fish in the tank but later when they died they were replaced with fingerling native species. When they grew too large for the tank they went back to the pond for "recycling".

"I always used to keep a few cats of various types and a few crayfish to keep the bottom of the tank clean."
Catfish and "mystery" snails were OK but the crayfish attacked the fish leaving them wounded and the fry that couldn't shake them off were eaten. That's when the crayfish went back to the river! So why are they called mystery snails? They're found in ponds everywhere feeding in the shallows so it's a mystery why people spend money for them at the tropical fish store.

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