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N2NH
08-08-2011, 04:12 PM
...and for that matter where you've been. It's supposed to be illegal so they shouldn't have done it. Like I've maintained, since when has legality ever stopped anyone from doing this? The story according to thus far:


For the last 10 months, Apple has secretly collected the geo locations for 100 million iPhone users and 15 million iPad users. Wired published the story on Wednesday. They report that Apple has not responded to a request for an explanation.Apple may be in violation of the Wireless Communications and Public Safety Act which only allows telecom carriers to provide location data in an emergency.

Software investigators found a file called “consolidated.db” in Apple’s iOS 4 operating software that is a list of locations and time stamps.

Aquapour News. (http://aquapour.com/apple-secretly-storing-ipad-and-iphone-location-data/556571/)


"Cell phone providers collect similar data almost inevitably as part of their operations, but it's kept behind their firewall. It normally requires a court order to gain access to it, whereas this is available to anyone who can get their hands on your phone or computer," they write."By passively logging your location without your permission, Apple have made it possible for anyone from a jealous spouse to a private investigator to get a detailed picture of your movements."
The location data appear to be collected at random intervals over time, using cell phone towers to triangulate approximate locations, they write.
They say these data are stored in a file named "consolidated.db," and that it's "unclear" why Apple would collect this information.
"One guess might be that they have new features in mind that require a history of your location, but that's pure speculation. The fact that it's transferred across devices when you restore or migrate is evidence the data-gathering isn't accidental," they write on the iPhone Tracker site.
Some iPhone users expressed outrage at the news.

CNN concurs. (http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-20/tech/iphone.tracking_1_iphone-users-apple-devices-location-data?_s=PM:TECH)

Not a new story, but one that I've never seen posted here before.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!


Brooklyn (http://maps.google.com/?q=Brooklyn%2C+NY%2C+United+States&z=4) - The home of an Internet artist in Brooklyn, NY was raided by the U.S. Secret Service after he apparently installed a program of his own creation on Apple store’s computers. The program took pictures of shoppers trying Apple Mac computers and laptops.

Kyle McDonald, a Brooklyn-based artist, has been accused of installing a program on Apple Mac computers in an Apple Store. That computer program then collects a webcam photo shot every two minutes of people looking at computers and laptops, and uploading those images online to a website.
In a BBC News report (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14080438), McDonald said the store’s security personnel granted him permission to take photos inside the New York store. Although Apple declined to comment, the U.S. Secret Service’s electronic crime division confirmed its involvement. It was not clear if Apple security allowed the artist to install software and snap webcam photo shots in the store in addition to taking photographs. McDonald posted a message on Twitter, speaking about how the U.S. Secret Service stopped by to look into his website and confiscated his laptop. “Please assume they're reading any e-mails you send me,” he added.


Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/308947#ixzz1UTS9Lp1M

Apple was complicit? How Un-Apple-Peeling.

Who needs RFID or Drones? We'll do it with what we got.

NQ6U
08-08-2011, 05:16 PM
That's a combination of old news that's already been thoroughly debunked (the information which was gathered was anonymous crowd sourcing and could not be traced back to an individual user) and and incident at an Apple store that took place without the knowledge of anyone at Apple other than the security guard that let the guy install the software.

W1GUH
08-09-2011, 07:21 AM
That's a combination of old news that's already been thoroughly debunked (the information which was gathered was anonymous crowd sourcing and could not be traced back to an individual user) and and incident at an Apple store that took place without the knowledge of anyone at Apple other than the security guard that let the guy install the software.

Please, sir, to back that up with hard evidence?

n2ize
08-09-2011, 09:53 AM
It's a conspiracy !!! The Apple Police are watching us.

NQ6U
08-09-2011, 10:04 AM
Please, sir, to back that up with hard evidence?

Here's some info on the location thing (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/04/25/why-the-phony-locationgate-scandal-targets-fear-of-apples-ios-more-than-android/) and an article where the Apple Store artist admits that he did not have permission to install the software (http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/07/7037427-apple-store-spycam-artist-says-that-secret-service-busted-him).

kb2vxa
08-10-2011, 12:57 PM
In 3, 2, 1......

NA4BH
08-10-2011, 02:56 PM
Just got an iPhone, did away with Blackberry.

n2ize
08-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Just got an iPhone, did away with Blackberry.

Uh oh ! Watch out... Your being tracked.. here comes the Apple Brigade

http://www.titanicuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/black-helicopters.gif

KC2UGV
08-11-2011, 07:20 AM
Uh oh ! Watch out... Your being tracked.. here comes the Apple Brigade

http://www.titanicuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/black-helicopters.gif

OH-58C's?

Something tells me some people just need to stay away from the tech news :lol: