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The ubiquitous Bob Dylan turns 70 today.
Bob Dylan (born Robert Allen Zimmerman; May 24, 1941) is an American singer-songwriter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer-songwriter), poet, and painter. He has been a major figure in music for five decades.[/URL] Much of his most celebrated work dates from the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960s_in_music"]1960s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan#cite_note-Newsweek97-0) when he was an informal chronicler, and an apparently reluctant figurehead, of social unrest. Though he is well-known for revolutionizing perceptions of the limits of popular music in 1965 with the six-minute single "Like a Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Rolling_Stone)," (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan#cite_note-Performing_artist-1)a number of his earlier songs such as "Blowin' in the Wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind)" and "The Times They Are a-Changin' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_They_Are_a-Changin%27_%28song%29)" became anthems for the US civil rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_%281955%E2%80%93196 8%29)[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan#cite_note-2)and anti-war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_Vietnam_War)movements.
Wiki Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan)
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Remember when we used to say "Don't trust anyone over thirty?"
kc7jty
05-24-2011, 03:29 AM
http://www.historyguy.com/biofiles/bob_dylan.jpg
he's mortal... just like the rest of us.
W3MIV
05-24-2011, 05:47 AM
But unlike most of his, his legacy will prove immortal. Happy birthday, Bob. More.
I remember "Blowin' in the Wind" being in the lower grade songbook.
We also had 1 hour per week of Bongo banging and kickball at playperiod.
Good times.
HBD Bob.
rot
W3MIV
05-24-2011, 06:17 AM
Keeereist I feel old.
n2ize
05-24-2011, 06:40 AM
Remember when we used to say "Don't trust anyone over thirty?"
But I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 07:41 AM
But I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
Had my first cigarette at ten
And for girls I had a great yen
But I was...
And Mr. Dylan showed us that walking around Asbury Park with ID can be less than pleasent.
WØTKX
05-24-2011, 10:06 AM
The captioned lyrics are a little off... but this is a decent recording of one of my favorite Dylan tunes. :lol:
http://youtu.be/uMWLjgPTR_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWLjgPTR_c&feature=related
w3bny
05-24-2011, 10:07 AM
He did give a brief interview this morning. When asked about how it felt to be a 70yo rock ledgend he replied "wheh whe whehweh bew wheh wheh wehhhhh"
KG4CGC
05-24-2011, 10:10 AM
Dylan was a subversive.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/96596595.jpg
n2ize
05-24-2011, 10:19 AM
Dylan was a subversive.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/96596595.jpg
These days Nixon is a subversive. As Mr. Dylan said, "the times are changing".
n2ize
05-24-2011, 10:21 AM
I owe a lot to Mr. Dylan. In many ways he helped to shape my life. He was very inspirational in my life and was largely the inspiration responsible for the paths I followed in life. I guess on this day it is only appropriate that I wish him a Happy Birthday"
n2ize
05-24-2011, 10:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkx-elBdKi4
With your mercury mouth
In the missionary Tante'
And your eyes like smoke
And your prayers like rhymes
And your laudanum cross
Abd your voice like chimes...
Beautiful cover of a Dylan poem.
With your mercury mouth
In the missionary Tante'
And your eyes like smoke
And your prayers like rhymes
And your laudanum cross
Abd your voice like chimes...
Beautiful cover of a Dylan poem.
A poem that was written about Baez herself.
W3MIV
05-24-2011, 11:04 AM
I owe a lot to Mr. Dylan. In many ways he helped to shape my life. He was very inspirational in my life and was largely the inspiration responsible for the paths I followed in life. I guess on this day it is only appropriate that I wish him a Happy Birthday"
Never know it from your posts.
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 11:24 AM
How about Hurrican Carter?
Saw him and Tom Petty in, I think '85, in the Meadowlands. When he did Hurrican Carter (after a second trial again found him guilty), someone in the crowd yelled, "Get it right next time." Bob replied, "No, you get it right, then I'll get it right."
n2ize
05-24-2011, 11:34 AM
Hurricane Carter was obviously a dangerous and ruthless criminal with a criminal record a mile and a half long. . Bob Dylan apparently misjudged the guilt of Carter and assumed it was just another case of "the racist system" stigmatizing an innocent man. Anyone can make such a mistake, considering the degree of racism and prejudices that existed at the time. So, I can't hold it against Bob. Time has shown Carter was indeed guilty as charged. Bob's life is so rich with great music, poetry, writings and insights that there is no reason to hold his misjudgment of Carter to the light, It's a mistake anyone could have made. There are too many wonderful achievements in Bob Dylan's life to hold this one incident against him.
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 01:55 PM
Hurricane Carter was obviously a dangerous and ruthless criminal with a criminal record a mile and a half long. . Bob Dylan apparently misjudged the guilt of Carter and assumed it was just another case of "the racist system" stigmatizing an innocent man. Anyone can make such a mistake, considering the degree of racism and prejudices that existed at the time. So, I can't hold it against Bob. Time has shown Carter was indeed guilty as charged. Bob's life is so rich with great music, poetry, writings and insights that there is no reason to hold his misjudgment of Carter to the light, It's a mistake anyone could have made. There are too many wonderful achievements in Bob Dylan's life to hold this one incident against him.
Should been a little more verbose. I think that what he was really saying is that it's not up to him to be right, but for all of us to be. He's just a singer/songwriter/composer and we shouldn't depend on him for anything but his brilliant observations and creative skills.
kc7jty
05-24-2011, 02:02 PM
So much of his work was sarcastic, in your face attitude. He proved to me you could be proud of an unpopular position in your heart even if you were the only one to hold it.
Ballad of a thin man was always one of my favs although it's hard not to fav them all.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
n2ize
05-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Should been a little more verbose. I think that what he was really saying is that it's not up to him to be right, but for all of us to be. He's just a singer/songwriter/composer and we shouldn't depend on him for anything but his brilliant observations and creative skills.
That's a good way to look at it. Perhaps he wasn't really making any judgement either way but rather just doing what he liked to do. One thing I always liked about the guy was that he distanced himself from political dogma, Early on in his career when the media was trying to associate him the the "protest movement" of the time he maintained his distance and rarely lent opinions either way. When the media tried to represent him as "leader of the protest movement" or "spokesman for the (fill in the blank) movement" he shunned those titles.
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 05:21 PM
That's a good way to look at it. Perhaps he wasn't really making any judgement either way but rather just doing what he liked to do. One thing I always liked about the guy was that he distanced himself from political dogma, Early on in his career when the media was trying to associate him the the "protest movement" of the time he maintained his distance and rarely lent opinions either way. When the media tried to represent him as "leader of the protest movement" or "spokesman for the (fill in the blank) movement" he shunned those titles.
In general, there were no leaders except self-styled ones. Back in the days of really good street theater, when a gathering of hippies was asked, usually by an authority figure, "Who's in charge her?" the answer always was, "You are!". Even today there are no leaders, no real organization. Some people take on the role of what they call "focalizers" -- they'll do some organization of tasks on an ad hoc basis...but they don't really lead and in any case have no authority at all.
"I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more."
n2ize
05-24-2011, 05:49 PM
In general, there were no leaders except self-styled ones. Back in the days of really good street theater, when a gathering of hippies was asked, usually by an authority figure, "Who's in charge her?" the answer always was, "You are!". Even today there are no leaders, no real organization. Some people take on the role of what they call "focalizers" -- they'll do some organization of tasks on an ad hoc basis...but they don't really lead and in any case have no authority at all.
"I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more."
The unfortunate thing is that the protest movement of that era was basically a sham. It was a great excuse to blame everything on "the man" while shirking personal responsibility and hard work.
kc7jty
05-24-2011, 05:53 PM
The unfortunate thing is that the protest movement of that era was basically a sham. It was a great excuse to blame everything on "the man" while shirking personal responsibility and hard work.
JESUS!
The unfortunate thing is that the protest movement of that era was basically a sham. It was a great excuse to blame everything on "the man" while shirking personal responsibility and hard work.
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz79/gyrogeerloose/wajt.png
Worked
All
John
Trolls!
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 06:18 PM
The unfortunate thing is that the protest movement of that era was basically a sham. It was a great excuse to blame everything on "the man" while shirking personal responsibility and hard work.
You weren't where I was. I saw lots and lots of people who worked very, very hard while heroically risking their personal futures. If you think it was a sham, that probably reflects the people you knew.
WØTKX
05-24-2011, 06:49 PM
Thread needs moar Bobby Zimmerman...
http://youtu.be/1XSvsFgvWr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XSvsFgvWr0
n2ize
05-24-2011, 06:55 PM
You weren't where I was. I saw lots and lots of people who worked very, very hard while heroically risking their personal futures. If you think it was a sham, that probably reflects the people you knew.
I mainly take issue with the on-campus protests and riots that were taking place. It's one thing to hold a protest in a public place once a proper permit has been obtained provided it doesn't interfere with the lives and safety of others. . It is another to disrupt the operation of a functioning school and deprive others of a quality learning/college experience. Also, during those years a lot of people ducked into college to avoid the draft. As soon as the coast was clear the dropped out.
Now I do agree with you. I am sure there were many dedicated people during that time who took up a cause and worked hard to pursue it faithfully and with reverence while at the same time retaining a sense of respect for others.. And I applaud such efforts. It is largely what America was built upon. And you were fortunate to have known such persons. Unfortunately they were too far and few between.
I mainly take issue with the on-campus protests and riots that were taking place. It's one thing to hold a protest in a public place once a proper permit has been obtained provided it doesn't interfere with the lives and safety of others. . It is another to disrupt the operation of a functioning school and deprive others of a quality learning/college experience. Also, during those years a lot of people ducked into college to avoid the draft. As soon as the coast was clear the dropped out.
Now I do agree with you. I am sure there were many dedicated people during that time who took up a cause and worked hard to pursue it faithfully and with reverence while at the same time retaining a sense of respect for others.. And I applaud such efforts. It is largely what America was built upon. And you were fortunate to have known such persons. Unfortunately they were too far and few between.
New York street scene, with John looking at the camera.
http://bonfiresblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sheep.jpg
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 07:05 PM
'ize said...
Unfortunately they were too far and few between.
Yep. Way, way WAY too few.
ka4dpo
05-24-2011, 07:30 PM
Who is Bob Dylan? I'm way to young to remember him....
Who is Bob Dylan? I'm way to young to remember him....
Something's happening and you don't know what it is
Do you, Mr. Jones?
W1GUH
05-24-2011, 07:55 PM
The concert where I saw him (Bob Dylan) he was playing with Tom Petty. There were some who said, "Yea, I'm going to see Tom Petty. He's playing with some guy named Bob Dylan."
Just like the Beatles were the band Paul McCartney played in before Wings.
Just like the Beatles were the band Paul McCartney played in before Wings.
"Pssst, hey you, Bee-attle!"
Let's see if he knows who these guys are...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLTSo1JeFFI
(BY NAME that is.) :yes:
ki4itv
05-24-2011, 09:23 PM
There were some who said, "Yea, I'm going to see Tom Petty. He's playing with some guy named Bob Dylan."
Those are the best shows.
Let's see if he knows who these guys are...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLTSo1JeFFI
(BY NAME that is.) :yes:
Nasty, Stig, Dirk and Barry.
kc7jty
05-24-2011, 11:54 PM
I saw Cream in a venue that held 300 people when I was in high school. Monday morning the friends I told I was going to see Cream wanted to know if they were any good/worth seeing?
Jacob Dylan is a better defined artist than his father. I wish the radio stations of this area would recognize it, and miss hearing the likes of 'Sixth Avenue Heartache'.
n2ize
05-25-2011, 06:56 PM
There is no success like failure, and failure's no success at all.
W1GUH
05-25-2011, 09:06 PM
Jacob Dylan is a better defined artist than his father. I wish the radio stations of this area would recognize it, and miss hearing the likes of 'Sixth Avenue Heartache'.
You can say THAT again. There was lots and lots of great music in the 90's that has faded into a sweet dream of a decade. The Wallflowers, Phish, Paula Cole...plus a bunch of local/regional bands I got to hear -- most notably Psychedelic Breakfast (anyone ever hear of them?) -- that kind of disappeared.
But I'd like to hear more detail about what you mean by "...better defined artist than his father." That's a very interesting statement that I think I get -- but not really. This could turn into a great discussion.
Thanks for the reminder! Saw them at Jingle Ball in '97. Not really my favorite venue, those arenas, but it WAS good to hear them. But I'd rather have heard them lying back in a meadow on a warm summer day in some beautiful outdoors amphitheater where there isn't a security guard watching everyone like a hawk!
n2ize
05-25-2011, 10:43 PM
"The bridge at midnight trembles
The country doctor rambles
Bankers nieces seek perfections
Expecting all the gifts that wise men bring
The wind howls like a hammer
The night blows rainy
My love she's like a raven
At my window with a broken wing"
Too bad they just don't write stuff like that anymore.
WØTKX
05-25-2011, 10:48 PM
Bobby's boy is doin' just fine...
http://youtu.be/5qBzuYyK_z0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBzuYyK_z0&feature=related
Paula Cole, heck yea! One of her wilder tunes... :yes:
http://youtu.be/4N5mDPwqREU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N5mDPwqREU&feature=related
n2ize
05-25-2011, 11:00 PM
Figure it might be a nice idea to actually post something actually done by the man who's birthday this thread is supposed to be commending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4O2-nsFBA
KG4CGC
05-26-2011, 01:51 AM
There is no success like failure, and failure's no success at all.
Usually for me that means taking the whole thing apart again.
For a third time.
All Along the Watchtower - Written by Dylan, done by Hendrix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bng3agUOYiI
kc7jty
05-26-2011, 04:05 AM
My #1 all time fav. Used to listen to it in '68, smoked up, with my Koss headphones connected to my Heathkit tube stereo hi fi.
W1GUH
05-26-2011, 07:56 AM
'TKX said:
Paula Cole, heck yea! One of her wilder tunes...
Product of the Berklee school - and it shows in her awesome music. I had the very, very good fortune to take lessons from a student from there, and that dude ROCKED!
My Back Pages - Written by Dylan, Performed by the Byrds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6OhC-4Zyw
Handle Me With Care - Lucky Wilbury (Bob Dylan) and the Traveling Wilburys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8s9dmuAKvU&playnext=1&list=PL523DBA369C5318DF
W1GUH
05-27-2011, 05:32 AM
'TKX -- Thanks a million for the great Paula Cole! Got to hear it today - can't at work.
W1GUH
05-27-2011, 05:34 AM
Handle Me With Care - Lucky Wilbury (Bob Dylan) and the Traveling Wilburys
Rats!
"Embedding disabled by request
Watch on Youtube"
Who would "request" such a thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF388uBmf54
One of my favorite Dylan covers.
n2ize
05-27-2011, 11:56 AM
In general Dylan was a good writer but a lousy singer. Most of his works sound better performed by others.
I think he pretty much does this one justice...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus
kb2vxa
05-28-2011, 03:26 PM
"In general Dylan was a good writer but a lousy singer."
Good singer too but with a voice that could curdle milk.
"Most of his works sound better performed by others."
With the single exception, the Nashville Skyline album. I never quite figured that one out, it sounds like him only an octave or two lower making it pleasing to listen to. Maybe the engineer used some heavy duty electronics on the vocal track like those heavy duty industrial strength panty hose that can make any legs look good.
Hmmm, maybe we should conduct a poll to find out who the Poet Laureate of Song award should go to, Bob Dylan or Paul Simon.
Lastly you may remember that Bob wrote is own epitaph without even realizing it.
May your hands always be busy
May your feet always be swift
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
May your heart always be joyful
And may your song always be sung
May you stay forever young
Forever young, forever young
May you stay forever young.
W1GUH
05-31-2011, 05:38 PM
'vxa said:
Hmmm, maybe we should conduct a poll to find out who the Poet Laureate of Song award should go to, Bob Dylan or Paul Simon.
No contest whatsoever. Hands down it's Dylan. Much, much more prolific than Simon, and moreover, Simon lost it when he had his infantile, ego-driven tiff with Mr. Garfunkle. Nothing that Paul Simon has done solo amounts to a hill of beans.
n2ize
06-01-2011, 08:19 AM
'vxa said:
No contest whatsoever. Hands down it's Dylan. Much, much more prolific than Simon, and moreover, Simon lost it when he had his infantile, ego-driven tiff with Mr. Garfunkle. Nothing that Paul Simon has done solo amounts to a hill of beans.
I agree. I think Dylan (Bob) is one of the best writers to come along in many decades.
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