Whats with the avatars lately...

[w3bny]

We gots the schnicklegruben, A sitting president shooped as...well I dunno, poopy monsters, enema freeks...

Can I haz spicy cheese-cake avatar?

[W3MIV]

I share your puzzleassity.

[N8YX]

I'll stick with Tracer.

[WV6Z]

And I shall stick with Father Jack, he has always served me well.

[WØTKX]

Giggity giggity goo!

[KJ3N]

There's something wrong with a picture of a cute Bichon puppy?

WDYHA?

[w3bny]

There's something wrong with a picture of a cute Bichon puppy?

WDYHA?

Cuz its googie....not Kitteh!

[W3MIV]

There's something wrong with a picture of a cute Bichon puppy?

Christine O'Donnell was a Bitchin' dog, why not use her pic?

[KC2UGV]

I tried starting a fad with mine. I failed. Not so hard I won, though.

[KJ3N]

There's something wrong with a picture of a cute Bichon puppy?

WDYHA?
Christine O'Donnell was a Bitchin' dog, why not use her pic?

My Bichon is smarter.

[W3WN]

Why switch?

[W3MIV]

Why switch?

Well, if you're not hitting well as a right-hander...

[N2CHX]

For once I followed the crowd instead of doing my own thing. I need to take a few naked pictures of myself to use as avatars.

[KG4CGC]

For once I followed the crowd instead of doing my own thing. I need to take a few naked pictures of myself to use as avatars.
Which crowd? Glenn Beck? Nazis in the showers with his followers.

[N2CHX]

Which crowd? Glenn Beck? Nazis in the showers with his followers.

No, you guys with the avatars of past leaders. I'm just a little more bold than the rest of you. lol

[KG4CGC]

No, you guys with the avatars of past leaders. I'm just a little more bold than the rest of you. lol
You certainly are bold. Admirable and if you'll pardon the pun, ballsy.

[N8YX]

I need to take a few naked pictures of myself to use as avatars.
http://ramchargercentral.com/boards/Smileys/classic/ttiwwop.gif

Paging Mr. Henley...

http://books.google.com/books?id=o_EjE6-iyQoC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22Nikon+Don%22+henley&source=bl&ots=bNDW0ook7y&sig=Sdktk00ccQcErRIEJIPdDE07MGo&hl=en&ei=8O6dTdfbGund0QHW0pC1BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22Nikon%20Don%22%20henley&f=false

[KC2UGV]

http://ramchargercentral.com/boards/Smileys/classic/ttiwwop.gif

Paging Mr. Henley...

http://books.google.com/books?id=o_EjE6-iyQoC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22Nikon+Don%22+henley&source=bl&ots=bNDW0ook7y&sig=Sdktk00ccQcErRIEJIPdDE07MGo&hl=en&ei=8O6dTdfbGund0QHW0pC1BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22Nikon%20Don%22%20henley&f=false

QFMFT

[w3bny]

...I need to take a few naked pictures of myself to use as avatars.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b220/Bunnieman/118116813421.jpg

[kd8dey]

For once I followed the crowd instead of doing my own thing. I need to take a few naked pictures of myself to use as avatars.


+++++1

[NQ6U]

My Bichon is smarter.

Cuter, too. Not to mention a lot quieter, I'll bet.

[KJ3N]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b220/Bunnieman/118116813421.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[KJ3N]

Cuter, too. Not to mention a lot quieter, I'll bet.

Amazingly so. I think this past Monday was the first time I've ever heard her bark. We've only had her for 2 months.

[WØTKX]

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenlovesex.jpg

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenrickroll.jpg

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenmoustache2.jpg

[N8YX]

So...when will Kelli start modeling Vicki's, Shirley's or similar wear for the board at large? :whistle:

[WØTKX]

I'm hoping for something tasteful but slinky in Prairie Gothic. :mrgreen:

[W1GUH]

How 'bout a forum just for this kind of thing.

[NQ6U]

I'm hoping for something tasteful but slinky in Prairie Gothic. :mrgreen:

You want to see her in a Frank Lloyd Wright building?

http://magazine.uchicago.edu/0410/features/images/gothic-01.jpg

http://magazine.uchicago.edu/0410/features/gothic.shtml

[N2NH]

I'm hoping for something tasteful but slinky in Prairie Gothic. :mrgreen:

Doctor Dentons?
http://blog.carnivalneworleans.com/wp-content/uploads/Long-Red-Union-Underwear1.jpg

[w3bny]

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<------ Ahm gunna leave this here for a widdle bit.

[W3WN]

Well, if you're not hitting well as a right-hander...Well is on the bench.

[KG4CGC]

Well is on the bench.
THIRD BASE!

[W3WN]

THIRD BASE!Stay out of the infield!

[KG4CGC]

Stay out of the infield!
LOL! This coming from the guy who always bats them straight to the pitcher!

[NQ6U]

LOL! This coming from the guy who always bats them straight to the pitcher!

Tomorrow.

[W3WN]

LOL! This coming from the guy who always bats them straight to the pitcher!
Nah, I usually fly out to left center. But every now and then, to Nobody. (He's in Right)

[N2CHX]

So...when will Kelli start modeling Vicki's, Shirley's or similar wear for the board at large? :whistle:

Getting your wish could be dangerous. I may just start taking requests......

[N2NH]

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenrickroll.jpg

Belated Mention. Rickrolled. I'm calling fowl.

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http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/n9xr/LR.jpg

[WØTKX]

Belated Mention. Rickrolled. I'm calling fowl.

HA! At least somebody noticed. Best Rick Roll, ever. :rofl:

I love Savage Chickens.

[N7YA]

Ro-bot roll-call....CROOOOOOOOOOW!

[WØTKX]

I'm not ready!

http://mst3kaday.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gypsy.jpg

[N7YA]

Shes busy running the higher functions of the ship.

[WØTKX]

Joel used to do the Comedy Clubs in Minneapolis. Funny dude.

[N7YA]

That was waaaaaaaay back too! He was a prop comic of sorts. I still remember his beer can suit. Many of those props were used on the show at KTMA, and the first season at Comedy Central. The cast are all working together again on other projects, when somethings good, why throw it away forever if you still like the folks you worked with.

[N7YA]

By the way, back to the avatars here.....i never knew how much a smiling Dick Nixon looks like Quagmire. Probably because i never saw him smiling.


I am not a perv! You wont have my old dick to kick around any more...


....giggity.:giggity:

[WX7P]

Getting your wish could be dangerous. I may just start taking requests......

Please don't.

BTW, if you're looking for a reaction, you just got one. I think the Hitler avatar is disgusting, as well as that silly ass Obama avatar by the 8 station.

[w3bny]

Please don't.

BTW, if you're looking for a reaction, you just got one. I think the Hitler avatar is disgusting, as well as that silly ass Obama avatar by the 8 station.

what..no one likes bunneh 2.0?

[W3WN]

what..no one likes bunneh 2.0?Well, since you asked... no.

[X-Rated]

what..no one likes bunneh 2.0?

Everybody loves bunneh 2.0. That's why no one is complaining about it. It is far better than that stupid one where the guy is getting his head constantly torched.

[kd8dey]

Please don't.

BTW, if you're looking for a reaction, you just got one. I think the Hitler avatar is disgusting, as well as that silly ass Obama avatar by the 8 station.

Free expression is alive and well on teh Ze.......Er I mean on the Island

[WX7P]

Free expression is alive and well on teh Ze.......Er I mean on the Island

Free expression is one thing, station, blatant racist imagery is yet another. Your avatar is disgusting and doesn't speak well of you either.

[X-Rated]

Free expression is alive and well on teh Ze.......Er I mean on the Island

LOL. Send that PM to KC7JTY. He will get a kick out of that.

[KC2UGV]

Free expression is alive and well on teh Ze.......Er I mean on the Island

Free expression doesn't mean one is protected from scorn for having stupid ideas. Food for thought.

[kd8dey]

Maybe you would like this one better?

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee58/bubbathegimp/Kings%20Island%20Photos/09-26-2010_053.jpg

On second thought I think I'll keep the one I have now just for giggles.

You can always send a PM to the Avatar Police, OH wait that's over at teh Zed. We don't do that here.
Oops I forgot, Ya can't do that over there now either.......

[WX7P]

Maybe you would like this one better?

On second thought I think I'll keep the one I have now just for giggles.

You can always send a PM to the Avatar Police, OH wait that's over at teh Zed. We don't do that here.
Oops I forgot, Ya can't do that over there now either.......

Ok, junior, hitch up your short pants and move along. Your recess bell just went off.

[ad4mg]

My avatar is also disgusting. It's all the rage here!

I don't find 'dey's avatar particularly disgusting, it was the national seal for the teabaggers for a while, or another similar image. I guess if I can call 'em teabaggers and terrorists, they can show Oh, No! Obama in a grass skirt.

Srsly - unless it's blatantly pornographic or racist, who gives a shit-o-la?

[W3MIV]

Sooner or later truth always emerges. I am both shocked and shamed.

[kd8dey]

Ok, junior, hitch up your short pants and move along. Your recess bell just went off.

O.K. I take that as a no that you don't prefer the picture of me, my grandson & wifoid 1.0 over the Obama one so I'll stick with the Obama Avatar just to make you happy.

[WX7P]

My avatar is also disgusting. It's all the rage here!

I don't find 'dey's avatar particularly disgusting, it was the national seal for the teabaggers for a while, or another similar image. I guess if I can call 'em teabaggers and terrorists, they can show Oh, No! Obama in a grass skirt.

Srsly - unless it's blatantly pornographic or racist, who gives a shit-o-la?

I think it is blatantly racist. C'mon, picturing a black man in some kind of jungle outfit? That's not racist?

Setting aside the fact that 8-land junior boy is just looking to shock, the avatar IS in bad taste. He and others would be screaming like stuck pigs if Robert E. Lee or Jefferson Davis were pictured as stereotyped southern hicks as insulting to their bullshit "heritage".

[X-Rated]

My avatar is also disgusting. It's all the rage here!

I don't find 'dey's avatar particularly disgusting, it was the national seal for the teabaggers for a while, or another similar image. I guess if I can call 'em teabaggers and terrorists, they can show Oh, No! Obama in a grass skirt.

Srsly - unless it's blatantly pornographic or racist, who gives a shit-o-la?

It has already been established in the mainstream media that Tea Party leaders consider this particular picture as "racist". Linky (http://articles.cnn.com/2009-09-17/politics/obama.witchdoctor.teaparty_1_witch-doctor-tea-party-express-politics-and-african-american-studies?_s=PM:POLITICS) Although they do say it is still okay to post these pics, they think that the situation of the nation is dire enough that we need to resort to racist tactics.

The big issue here isn't about being "racist", but whether we can defend the name of the US over a certain ME nation. And the answer to that is a resounding no.

[kd8dey]

Ever notice that when somebody is fighting a loosing argument that they always resort to name calling or try to pull out the race card?

[X-Rated]

Ever notice that when somebody is fighting a loosing argument that they always resort to name calling or try to pull out the race card?

Ever notice that when somebody is fighting a losing argument that they always resort to name calling or use racist statements or images?

I mean, I don't have an issue with it. But you can't put lipstick on a pig and call it Sarah Palin. Well, bad analogy, but you know what I mean.

If racism is allowed, allow it across the board. If it is not allowed, shut it all down instead of referring to pro-American stances as being "anti-Semitic".

[NQ6U]

what..no one likes bunneh 2.0?

I do. Very stylish.

[KG4CGC]

It's racist.
It would be racist with Obama and it would be racist with OJ.
When the Klan marched they carried the Confederate flag as well as the Baptist Southern Cross flag and as far as I'm concerned, they tainted those flags so they cannot be used to represent any kind of heritage unless one means racist heritage.
If we as a country truly respected the American flag then those same Klan members should have been jailed for carrying the American flag. Instead we allow all the different flavors of racists to use the American flag as a symbol of their American Racism.

You either get it or you don't. There is no gray area. Until you've been called a n***** like I have, you will never understand. The best you can do is to be respectful of the rights of others to be treated on the basis of something other than the color of their skin or your colored perceptions of who or what people are based on how little you really know about a race or culture or country.

Finally, anthropologists will tell you that among the human species, there is NO SUCH THING as race. Race is a construct of primitive tribal thought as a way of describing persons from another tribe. Later it was something that those with a fragile eggshell ego clung to as a form of self-delusional aggrandizement.

[WØTKX]

Tricky Dicky is perfect. He was a racist asshole.

Just listen to the tapes, if you can stomach it. Giggity Goo.

[kd8dey]

My avatar is also disgusting. It's all the rage here!

I don't find 'dey's avatar particularly disgusting, it was the national seal for the teabaggers for a while, or another similar image. I guess if I can call 'em teabaggers and terrorists, they can show Oh, No! Obama in a grass skirt.

Srsly - unless it's blatantly pornographic or racist, who gives a shit-o-la?

Actually it's a photo entitled "ObamaCare"

http://www.e-manonline.com/images/entry/obamacare5.jpg

Wasn't meant to be racist but a protest. Good ole Obama Care, The mandatory National health care system that automatically turns you into a criminal facing fines and or jail time if your too poor to afford coverage.
But that's another story

[ad4mg]

I think it is blatantly racist. C'mon, picturing a black man in some kind of jungle outfit? That's not racist?

Setting aside the fact that 8-land junior boy is just looking to shock, the avatar IS in bad taste. He and others would be screaming like stuck pigs if Robert E. Lee or Jefferson Davis were pictured as stereotyped southern hicks as insulting to their bullshit "heritage".
Well, to state the whole truth and be fair ... Bob once asked about my (and others) use of the term "teabagger". We had a "spirited" discussion where a few lines in the sand were defined about these sort of things.

My avatar is offensive, and it's intended to shock, and so is my signature, and I haven't heard Bob utter one syllable about it.

I don't find the images of Obama portrayed as a witchdoctor as racist, but stereotypically juvenile. Big whoop. I'm sure Bob finds my avatar equally foolish.

How come you aren't concerned with my avatar possibly offending someone here? Do you or Jerry find my avatar offensive?

[WX7P]

Actually it's a photo entitled "ObamaCare"

Ok, I've seen the light. I support your right to make a complete ass out of yourself.

edit- That would be Bob.

[WX7P]

Well, to state the whole truth and be fair ... Bob once asked about my (and others) use of the term "teabagger". We had a "spirited" discussion where a few lines in the sand were defined about these sort of things.

My avatar is offensive, and it's intended to shock, and so is my signature, and I haven't heard Bob utter one syllable about it.

I don't find the images of Obama portrayed as a witchdoctor as racist, but stereotypically juvenile. Big whoop. I'm sure Bob finds my avatar equally foolish.

How come you aren't concerned with my avatar possibly offending someone here? Do you or Jerry find my avatar offensive?

Apples and Oranges. Anytime you're dealing with racist imagery, it opens up a really gnarly can of worms. It would be one thing to show Obama as goofy or dorky or whatever, but to go to the level of race is out of line.

And no, I don't buy that bullshit politically correct shit that Richard and others pull. That's their cover for being racists and allows themselves to be perceived as victims.

[WØTKX]

Ayup. But such is the lovely world we live in, free speech and all.

Some folks must serve as a bad example for others. Makes 'em feel better, I guess.

[X-Rated]

Well, to state the whole truth and be fair ... Bob once asked about my (and others) use of the term "teabagger". We had a "spirited" discussion where a few lines in the sand were defined about these sort of things.

My avatar is offensive, and it's intended to shock, and so is my signature, and I haven't heard Bob utter one syllable about it.

I don't find the images of Obama portrayed as a witchdoctor as racist, but stereotypically juvenile. Big whoop. I'm sure Bob finds my avatar equally foolish.

How come you aren't concerned with my avatar possibly offending someone here? Do you or Jerry find my avatar offensive?

I have already stated that the avatar can stay FWIW. But i did provide reference to the fact that this particular picture is indeed considered racist by the mainstream media and by Tea Party leadership.

My issue is simple. Since we have established that it is racist, that is already off the table for discussion and now we need to discuss what is acceptable for political discussion without being yelled down for being racist when we cry over billions being sent to another country. JTY comes to mind as needing a big apology from the moderating staff here for being slammed for being a racist when he made no racist remarks.

"Offending someone" is not the issue. If we look only at your statement I quote here again...


Srsly - unless it's blatantly pornographic or racist, who gives a shit-o-la?

This says nothing about offending someone per se. My question now is, since we know that this picture is racist, and YOU implied that racist material was not allowed here, what gives?

[WØTKX]

Yes, the 'JtY issue. My fault. I'm a failure.

I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE!

[ad4mg]

I have already stated that the avatar can stay FWIW. But i did provide reference to the fact that this particular picture is indeed considered racist by the mainstream media and by Tea Party leadership.

My issue is simple. Since we have established that it is racist, that is already off the table for discussion and now we need to discuss what is acceptable for political discussion without being yelled down for being racist when we cry over billions being sent to another country. JTY comes to mind as needing a big apology from the moderating staff here for being slammed for being a racist when he made no racist remarks.

"Offending someone" is not the issue. If we look only at your statement I quote here again...



This says nothing about offending someone per se. My question now is, since we know that this picture is racist, and YOU implied that racist material was not allowed here, what gives?
If this discussion is necessary, consider quantity. Bill has uttered dozens, if not hundreds of statements others may find offensive. Bob posts one avatar image that may have a similar effect.

You find the image offensive because the tea party people stated so? That, in itself, is seriously effed up, Jerry.

I have received absolutely zero complaints about Bob's avatar. OTOH, I have received several concerning mine. Shall I censor myself? After all, fair is fair ...

As a recovering pyromaniac, I find your avatar quite disturbing.

[W3WN]

If this discussion is necessary, consider quantity. Bill has uttered dozens, if not hundreds of statements others may find offensive. Bob posts one avatar image that may have a similar effect.

You find the image offensive because the tea party people stated so? That, in itself, is seriously effed up, Jerry.

I have received absolutely zero complaints about Bob's avatar. OTOH, I have received several concerning mine. Shall I censor myself? After all, fair is fair ...

As a recovering pyromaniac, I find your avatar quite disturbing.Well since you bring it up, who the hell is that in your avatar anyway?

[KG4CGC]

Racism is racism is racism. It's not something you can paint as freedom of expression if it has been established that it is hurtful to a group or person on the basis of color, culture or other things that have to do with how a person was born, where they were born or how they grew up.

[ad4mg]

Well since you bring it up, who the hell is that in your avatar anyway?
The teabagger terrorist robber baron governor of the once great state of Wisconsin, scott walker. :-D

[X-Rated]

If this discussion is necessary, consider quantity. Bill has uttered dozens, if not hundreds of statements others may find offensive. Bob posts one avatar image that may have a similar effect.

You find the image offensive because the tea party people stated so? That, in itself, is seriously effed up, Jerry.

I have received absolutely zero complaints about Bob's avatar. OTOH, I have received several concerning mine. Shall I censor myself? After all, fair is fair ...

As a recovering pyromaniac, I find your avatar quite disturbing.

You are nowhere near topic, Luke.

1. Mainstream media reported that this photo is indeed considered racist by society.
2. You have implied that racist media or statements were not acceptable here.

Before this thread was started and your statement was made, there was no issue on Bob's avatar. You made the issue by implying that racist pictures were not acceptable here. It has noting to do with someone getting disturbed. It has nothing with the number of complaints received. It has nothing to do with my opinion of North Korean still life photography. It has to do with whether racism has a place on the board.

It is time to say one way or the other.

[W3WN]

I have already stated that the avatar can stay FWIW. But i did provide reference to the fact that this particular picture is indeed considered racist by the mainstream media and by Tea Party leadership. < snip > Just because they say it is doesn't make it so. And since the subject has been broached, while I find said avatar in poor taste, I see it as more a political commentary (and yes, I was already familiar with the ObamaCare poster that it came from) than as racist.
My issue is simple. Since we have established that it is racist, that is already off the table for discussion and now we need to discuss what is acceptable for political discussion without being yelled down for being racist when we cry over billions being sent to another country. JTY comes to mind as needing a big apology from the moderating staff here for being slammed for being a racist when he made no racist remarks. < snip > While I won't parse hairs with you, with all due respect, I found many of 'JTY's comments highly offensive, especially when it came to certain political entities in the Middle East. Whether they crossed the line between "offensive" and "racist" I will leave to others, as they hit too close to home for me to give an objective opinion. But that said, no, I don't believe that the moderating staff has any reason to offer him an apology.
< snip >My question now is, since we know that this picture is racist < snip >Again, while I respect your opinion, I respectfully disagree with it that the picture involved is racist. Offensive, yes, but that's not the same thing.

[WX7P]

If this discussion is necessary, consider quantity. Bill has uttered dozens, if not hundreds of statements others may find offensive. Bob posts one avatar image that may have a similar effect.

You find the image offensive because the tea party people stated so? That, in itself, is seriously effed up, Jerry.

I have received absolutely zero complaints about Bob's avatar. OTOH, I have received several concerning mine. Shall I censor myself? After all, fair is fair ...

As a recovering pyromaniac, I find your avatar quite disturbing.

What's the point of bitching about the avatar? The hang loose attitude around here is basically "deal with it", so there's no point in saying anything except directly to the person posting the nonsense.

There's nothing racist about your avatar. It does involve a play on words used in the gay community, but tough shit for the other side. That's WAY different than posting an avatar portraying the POTUS as some kind of primitive African warrior because some right wing dipshit thinks it's funny.

Again, racial imagery is a problem in this country and silliness like the juvenile 8 station's avatar don't help. We've all had this conversation before. The tea parties assholes want respect but their actions and signs give no respect to the other side with this kind of bullshit.

It's the typical right wing entitlement double standard.

[W3WN]

The teabagger terrorist robber baron governor of the once great state of Wisconsin, scott walker. :-D
Oh, that's right, and I do believe you've mentioned that before. My apologies for not recalling.

He's a schmuck.

[ad4mg]

You are nowhere near topic, Luke.

1. Mainstream media reported that this photo is indeed considered racist by society.
2. You have implied that racist media or statements were not acceptable here.

Before this thread was started and your statement was made, there was no issue on Bob's avatar. You made the issue by implying that racist pictures were not acceptable here. It has noting to do with someone getting disturbed. It has nothing with the number of complaints received. It has nothing to do with my opinion of North Korean still life photography. It has to do with whether racism has a place on the board.

It is time to say one way or the other.
No problem. It all boils down to opinion.

Since I have received no complaints about Bob's avatar before the panty twisting began in this thread, at this time, I am unconcerned that it may be conceived as racist.

Personally, as an old white liberal swimming in a virtual sea of neocons, teabaggers, and right wingnuts here in the NeoCommonwealth, I think the image is quite tame. And, my impression with the entire issue leaves me a little disappointed. It seems more and more apparent that the liberals here can dish it out big time, but are a bit thin-skinned on defense.

There are others on the staff here who may react differently to your pud-pulling. Give 'em a ring, and let me know how it works out for you ...

[X-Rated]

Just because they say it is doesn't make it so. And since the subject has been broached, while I find said avatar in poor taste, I see it as more a political commentary (and yes, I was already familiar with the ObamaCare poster that it came from) than as racist. While I won't parse hairs with you, with all due respect, I found many of 'JTY's comments highly offensive, especially when it came to certain political entities in the Middle East. Whether they crossed the line between "offensive" and "racist" I will leave to others, as they hit too close to home for me to give an objective opinion. But that said, no, I don't believe that the moderating staff has any reason to offer him an apology.Again, while I respect your opinion, I respectfully disagree with it that the picture involved is racist. Offensive, yes, but that's not the same thing.

It is not my opinion. It is fact that the picture is considered racist. Attack the article and not me.

And you of all people who made offensive remarks just today and vigorously defend them about the area of the country where I call home. How can you talk to me about people offending you?

[ad4mg]

It is not my opinion. It is fact that the picture is considered racist. Attack the article and not me.

And you of all people who made offensive remarks just today and vigorously defend them about the area of the country where I call home. How can you talk to me about people offending you?
Sorry, Jer' ... no time for riddles.

If you think I'm attacking you, then you're way more sensitive than I thought. You asked me several questions, I answered. My world is not black and white, and my opinions, which shouldn't really count for all that much, may vary +/- a few percentage points on any given day.

And, it is not a "fact" that the image is racist, it's an opinion.

If it really, truly offends you, use Ad-Block-Plus to block it.

I have nothing else to offer, so ta-ta. It's all about knowing when to exit a discussion that has morphed into a pud-pulling exhibition.

EDIT: I thought you replied to me, Jerry. I still stick with what I posted, however, as I am making an exit from this particular thread.

[X-Rated]

Sorry, Jer' ... no time for riddles.

If you think I'm attacking you, then you're way more sensitive than I thought. You asked me several questions, I answered. My world is not black and white, and my opinions, which shouldn't really count for all that much, may vary +/- a few percentage points on any given day.

And, it is not a "fact" that the image is racist, it's an opinion.

If it really, truly offends you, use Ad-Block-Plus to block it.

I have nothing else to offer, so ta-ta. It's all about knowing when to exit a discussion that has morphed into a pud-pulling exhibition.

That statement was to Ron and not to you, Luke. That is why you were a bit perplexed.

[ad4mg]

That statement was to Ron and not to you, Luke. That is why you were a bit perplexed.
Understand, and I had just edited my post to reflect that.

Have a great day!

[WX7P]

No problem. It all boils down to opinion.

Since I have received no complaints about Bob's avatar before the panty twisting began in this thread, at this time, I am unconcerned that it may be conceived as racist.

Personally, as an old white liberal swimming in a virtual sea of neocons, teabaggers, and right wingnuts here in the NeoCommonwealth, I think the image is quite tame. And, my impression with the entire issue leaves me a little disappointed. It seems more and more apparent that the liberals here can dish it out big time, but are a bit thin-skinned on defense.

There are others on the staff here who may react differently to your pud-pulling. Give 'em a ring, and let me know how it works out for you ...

Just for the record, before I respond, I'm no big fan of Obama. I think he's selling out the country to the business interests that have done their best to destroy this country.

You've rang the liberals can't take it bell before, but that just doesn't work. C'mon, you just posted that people have whined about your avatar. Why? Because it has a potentially gay reference in it? Oh, Boo Hoo.

Good grief, Luke, you've got a moderator who basically says White Power! in his sig line, and that's ok? I don't think so. Did I bitch about it? NO. To me, that shit is no different that JTY and his anti-Israel tirades. The only difference is the racism is coded better and that station dances around it enough to get away with it.

[W3WN]

It is not my opinion. It is fact that the picture is considered racist. Attack the article and not me.

And you of all people who made offensive remarks just today and vigorously defend them about the area of the country where I call home. How can you talk to me about people offending you?I am not attacking you. I simply disagree that the picture in question, while offensive, crosses the line to racist.

Nor have I "attacked" your area of the country. If you're referring to what I think you referring to, I made reference to a running gag over how a long dead famous politician and his political allies controlled the elections in his area. I'm sorry if you find it offensive, but that's the man's reputation. Go argue with the joke writers. Remember that I work in and live next door to a city who's polticial machine would make his proud, an area which said political party is so firmly entrenched that nobody thinks twice about changing party affiliations to that of the majority.

Sheesh. Somebody sure pissed in a whole bunch of bowls of Wheaties today.

[WX7P]

Sheesh. Somebody sure pissed in a whole bunch of bowls of Wheaties today.

Not at all. Say something stupid, and you'll get a response. QED

[X-Rated]

I am not attacking you. I simply disagree that the picture in question, while offensive, crosses the line to racist.

Nor have I "attacked" your area of the country. If you're referring to what I think you referring to, I made reference to a running gag over how a long dead famous politician and his political allies controlled the elections in his area. I'm sorry if you find it offensive, but that's the man's reputation. Go argue with the joke writers. Remember that I work in and live next door to a city who's polticial machine would make his proud, an area which said political party is so firmly entrenched that nobody thinks twice about changing party affiliations to that of the majority.

Sheesh. Somebody sure pissed in a whole bunch of bowls of Wheaties today.

There is a massive misunderstanding here or a massive attempt to confuse the situation.

There is a difference between "offensive", "attacking someone on this forum", "attacking someone outside the US and this forum", "racist", "jokes", "joke writers", "running gag", and many other terms you can throw in there.

Sorry someone pissed in your Wheaties. I would hate to have that happen to me.

Also, to try to settle things down a bit here, I thought I would post a picture of my darling little nephew. I hope posting family members is cool here anyway.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/n9xr/Justin-1.png

[W5RB]

On that note , I'll hope to raise the bar a bit with my avatar change . If it took , it's an old pic of my Dad , who I'm reminded by recent local events , brought the family here some 50 years ago . Dad passed away in '08 , so he missed the recent air show commemorating the opening of NAS Meridian (then NAAS), of which he was a plankowner . I think he was already LCDR by then , but the pic is close , anyway .

[NQ6U]

My avatars must be too tame, none of them have offended anyone yet.

As far as Bob's avatar goes, it's pretty obviously racist. However, since I don't recall him making any racist remarks in the past, I've cut him some slack and chalked it up to bad taste.

[kd8dey]

Just for the record, before I respond, I'm no big fan of Obama. I think he's selling out the country to the business interests that have done their best to destroy this country.

You've rang the liberals can't take it bell before, but that just doesn't work. C'mon, you just posted that people have whined about your avatar. Why? Because it has a potentially gay reference in it? Oh, Boo Hoo.

Good grief, Luke, you've got a moderator who basically says White Power! in his sig line, and that's ok? I don't think so. Did I bitch about it? NO. To me, that shit is no different that JTY and his anti-Israel tirades. The only difference is the racism is coded better and that station dances around it enough to get away with it.

I don't find my avatar to be in the best of taste either BUT it wasn't meant to be. Obama care really pisses me off. mandatory health care under penalty of prosecution for those that just cant afford it? So do I have a beef with Obama Care? You Bet Ya!

I moved back to Ohio in 1998. I haven't hid the fact that my wife is in pretty bad shape and only has a few years left at best. (kidney failure/Dialysis)

All the medications she needs are more than I made in a month so she had to apply for medical assistance. In Ohio they have what is called a spend down meaning that you could only get medical assistance after you spent an amount determined by your income.

Even by letting all of our bills go by the wayside, we were never able to come up with enough cash to meet the monthly spend down before the month was over. Because of this we were never eligible or able to purchase all of the expensive medications (over 20 different scripts) she has to have.

The more hours I worked, The higher they raised the spend down to the point that I was either at work or trying to get some rest before grabbing another extra shift. up to 70+ hour weeks just to pay for medications she needs and still unable to meet the ever increasing spend down, much less pay for such niceties as a roof, utilities, food........I was killing myself with work to keep her going and no relief in sight.

The only option we had left was to separate so she could get the medical help she had to have without me working myself into a grave.

We spent seven years apart because of this until I myself became ill, requiring multiple surgeries and unable to find meaningful work with my new limitations due to work related injuries, the shape I found myself in during my long recovery, and the economy.

(With all the unemployed people to choose from, Why would anybody consider hiring a gimp like myself anyhoo)

Social Security agrees that I have a bunch of medical stuff wrong with me but they didn't consider any particular problem severe enough or everything together as a whole (The Big Picture) to be debilitating enough to meet requirements.

They don't consider me eligible even though I am considered by workman's comp to be 15% permanently disabled from work injuries alone. In the mean time I'm an untreated diabetic (cant afford a doctor) slowly going blind and waiting for my own kidneys to fail as well.

Before my becoming ill, I wrote a commentary to the local alternative paper which they published under the title of "Who needs enemies with friends like Uncle Sam"

This commentary was also sent as a letter to Pres. Clinton whom was compelled to write back to me In regards to the situation We found ourselves in.

Does this help anybody fill in a little more info into my choice of Avatar?

PS
BTW
Last year in Comp 1 we were required to write a formal business type letter on a subject along with an informal letter to a friend on the same subject.(Extra credit if we actually mailed them)

I wrote Obama about the same concerns in the Clinton letter along with my worries on Obama-care and didn't even get an acknowledgement. At least Clinton cared enough to respond.

[X-Rated]

...
Does this help anybody fill in a little more info into my choice of Avatar?

You have worlds of sympathy from me on your wife's situation. I honestly understand the problems you are going though and wish you and your family could get top notch health care.

Last years health care act has not been fully enacted as of yet. There have been some things that have taken affect but not everything has come to fruition. there is a Link Here (http://www.healthcare.gov/law/infocus/disparities/index.html) that talks about the disparaging health care issues at the present. There aren't any silly pictures to laugh at: just the facts.

The Care Act was setup to leave the people alone who already have insurance. If you are already insured, there will be little to change the way your health care operates. This was designed to get people onto insurance and keep insurance from dropping people's coverage. If you like poor coverage, you will hate the Care Act and many people have voiced their opinion very strongly that they want to pull all their care costs directly out of their own pockets. That will go away if it stays in affect.

Usually, it is free loaders who hate the Affordable Care Act and not people struggling to pay all the bills. Strange.

[N7YA]

For what its worth....we DO have a few avatars of puppies and kittens.

[X-Rated]

For what its worth....we DO have a few avatars of puppies and kittens.


No problem. ...

There are others on the staff here who may react differently to your pud-pulling. Give 'em a ring, and let me know how it works out for you ...

That quote is going to come in handy in most cases.

[WX7P]

I don't find my avatar to be in the best of taste either BUT it wasn't meant to be. Obama care really pisses me off. mandatory health care under penalty of prosecution for those that just cant afford it? So do I have a beef with Obama Care? You Bet Ya!

I moved back to Ohio in 1998. I haven't hid the fact that my wife is in pretty bad shape and only has a few years left at best. (kidney failure/Dialysis)

All the medications she needs are more than I made in a month so she had to apply for medical assistance. In Ohio they have what is called a spend down meaning that you could only get medical assistance after you spent an amount determined by your income.

Even by letting all of our bills go by the wayside, we were never able to come up with enough cash to meet the monthly spend down before the month was over. Because of this we were never eligible or able to purchase all of the expensive medications (over 20 different scripts) she has to have.

The more hours I worked, The higher they raised the spend down to the point that I was either at work or trying to get some rest before grabbing another extra shift. up to 70+ hour weeks just to pay for medications she needs and still unable to meet the ever increasing spend down, much less pay for such niceties as a roof, utilities, food........I was killing myself with work to keep her going and no relief in sight.

The only option we had left was to separate so she could get the medical help she had to have without me working myself into a grave.

We spent seven years apart because of this until I myself became ill, requiring multiple surgeries and unable to find meaningful work with my new limitations due to work related injuries, the shape I found myself in during my long recovery, and the economy.

(With all the unemployed people to choose from, Why would anybody consider hiring a gimp like myself anyhoo)

Social Security agrees that I have a bunch of medical stuff wrong with me but they didn't consider any particular problem severe enough or everything together as a whole (The Big Picture) to be debilitating enough to meet requirements.

They don't consider me eligible even though I am considered by workman's comp to be 15% permanently disabled from work injuries alone. In the mean time I'm an untreated diabetic (cant afford a doctor) slowly going blind and waiting for my own kidneys to fail as well.

Before my becoming ill, I wrote a commentary to the local alternative paper which they published under the title of "Who needs enemies with friends like Uncle Sam"

This commentary was also sent as a letter to Pres. Clinton whom was compelled to write back to me In regards to the situation We found ourselves in.

Does this help anybody fill in a little more info into my choice of Avatar?

PS
BTW
Last year in Comp 1 we were required to write a formal business type letter on a subject along with an informal letter to a friend on the same subject.(Extra credit if we actually mailed them)

I wrote Obama about the same concerns in the Clinton letter along with my worries on Obama-care and didn't even get an acknowledgement. At least Clinton cared enough to respond.

That's a horrible story and I hope it works out better for the both of you in the long run.

These problems predate the Obama administration by some years. 7 years ago, it seems we had a Republican president and legislature. You had the same problems then, but I bet you weren't posting pics of Bush looking some slack jawed yokel with a corncob pipe in his mouth.

Under a single payer system, you wouldn't have the problems you have now. Please explain to me how any of the free market bullshit proposed by the Republicans would ameliorate your situation. If it was up to them, what little support you do get would not be there. Yet you post pictures of the President dressed up like some wild bushman because of things that happened to you before the guy was even on the radar.

Whatever.

[n4aud]

Racism is racism is racism. It's not something you can paint as freedom of expression if it has been established that it is hurtful to a group or person on the basis of color, culture or other things that have to do with how a person was born, where they were born or how they grew up.
Thank you for pointing that out. We have a couple of bigots on this site that don't get that.

[W5RB]

Well , there's plenty of folks here who have said stuff that's just plain mean-spirited about groups of people , whether they be political , ethnic or whatever . Some of those same people think that my state's flag is racist . It's their choice whether to be offended , but they don't get to put words in my mouth over the flying of it . Just 'cause you're offended , doesn't mean that was my intent .

[KG4CGC]

Thank you for pointing that out. We have a couple of bigots on this site that don't get that.
I suppose if you were to include racism in that culture, then you'd have my back to the wall. If you want to call racism culture, then I reject it outright.

[kd8dey]

One of the things I mentioned in my commentary/Clinton letter was that the system the way it is, Is setup where you either have to be completely dependent on government, (alcoholics drinking up their disability check and sleeping in alleyways, drug addicts...etc....) or completely independent, That there is no middle ground.

lowlifes such as these get all kinds of assistance thrown at them, while people that actually try to make an honest effort in life can't get much needed help and are better off on the dole rather than try to provide for themselves creating a class of sub-serviants. There is a difference between a hand out and a hand up.

If people think medical care for the poor is bad now how much further do you think it is going to sink under Obama Care?

When I was taken ill and lost my job I had no Insurance. They had me doing visits to one of the hospitals satellite clinics then a stint in a nursing home trying to fight off surgical wound infections. From the onset to within just a few months I went from a tad over 300 to about 190 pounds. all the time in the hospital I lost the majority of my stamina along with muscle mass from my body feeding on itself.

The doctor tried to switch my diabetic Medications to the latest and greatest (Januvia) for which there is no generic and would have cost over $300.00 bucks a month with NO income of my own to rely on?

I read an article a while back about all the unknown as yet side effects of the newer medications, some of which were even less effective than the old reliable stand by's Metformin/Diabeta which you can buy a months supply (generic for $4.00 each at Krogers.

While I was in the hospital I was Bullshitting with one of the nurses about My eventual knee replacement, and workmans comp etc, And was told about how the hospital liked it when patients with no insurance needed surgeries and such because they get to experiment by using the latest devices.

(Reconstructed ACL /work injury. I took a guy through my knee instead of the plate glass window where he was trespassing in the battered shelter I was posted at)

THE POOR ARE NOTHING BUT FUCKING GUINEA PIGS TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.
and people wonder why I get depressed?

For 3 months I complained to one of the clinic doctors about a small site along the incision about the size of a pencil eraser that refused to heal.

The doctor would only glance at it, Then tell me to keep an eye out for infection without ever really examining it to see what the problem was. One day I decided to check it out better myself, reached down and felt something sharp. I ended up pulling the knot from a plastic suture out of the hole, Clipped one side, and pulled out several inches. (The wound finally was able to heal).

So far I have pulled 2-1/2 of my own wisdom teeth. I don't have a job and still can't get medical assistance to afford any doctors visits to get the diabetic medications while I slowly go blind.

I think I have a right to be a little miffed

I don't see health care getting any better under Obama care only worse.

DO NOT CLICK ON THESE IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED I AM NOT BULLSHITTING

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee58/bubbathegimp/Personal/wound.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee58/bubbathegimp/Personal/wound2.jpg

[n4aud]

I suppose if you were to include racism in that culture, then you'd have my back to the wall. If you want to call racism culture, then I reject it outright.
No, that's not what I meant. Racism is a subset of bigotry. "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices."

[KG4CGC]

No, that's not what I meant. Racism is a subset of bigotry. "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices."
By that definition then I would be a bigot. I reject that definition though.

[n4aud]

By that definition then I would be a bigot. I reject that definition though.

You're intolerant???? It doesn't show.

[KG4CGC]

I'm intolerant of the intolerant. An illogical conundrum.

[WØTKX]

I'm intolerant of the intolerant. An illogical conundrum.

Perfect, Brother Charles. I am too, quite.

[NQ6U]

I'm intolerant of the intolerant. An illogical conundrum.

Oh yeah? Well, eff you, then! If there's one thing I'm intolerant of, it's someone who's intolerant of intolerance.

[n4aud]

I'm intolerant of the intolerant. An illogical conundrum.

Your not intolerant. Just in case you thought I was being sarcastic. I can't stand intolerance, which is really what bigotry is, isn't it? I came to the realization a long time ago that the world is made up of people who are different from me, who see things differently than I see them, and my best bet was to accept that fact. I don't like people who treat me like shit or who treat others that way. All bigots justify their bigotry, without fail. Any time you see someone painting a group of people with the ugly brush and listing all the reasons that group needs to be treated like crap, you're looking at bigotry. There's been a lot of that here lately.

[KG4CGC]

"Nomad is imperfect. Execute the prime objective."

[n4aud]

Star Trek?

[X-Rated]

Perfect, Brother Charles. I am too, quite.

I don't understand several people here. I don't think I am intolerant with them but it amazes me that they can complain one issue and yet they embrace that issue. Several people and I have all agreed that the picture is racist. It is a matter of fact. It is not debatable due to the fact that it rises to the definition of a racist picture and has been judged as so by society in general. This has already been established. Luke says that "racist" things are not acceptable here. Not my call, not Charle's call, Not Cali Dave's call. It was from Luke. No one is calling for the pulling of the avatar. What works for the mods works for me, anyway.

Then Bob says he blames Obama for the healthcare system that preceded Obama and he wants the way it is to revert back to the way it is. It was a good system under the white guys, but now a black guy is president doing the same thing, it sucks. The only difference is now he can't go without insurance coverage. Makes little sense to me, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

I wish to take this opportunity to say HI to Audie. Hope all is well there.

Peace.

[WØTKX]

Star Trek?

Sterilize, Sterilize.

[KG4CGC]

Star Trek?
Star Trek.

[N2NH]

I don't see health care getting any better under Obama care only worse.

There was at one time a chance that it would be much better. One of the original plans was to give everyone Medicaid. That was deemed socialism and "single payer" by the right, and they convinced enough people that was the case. Now we have this crap. It isn't worth the paper it's written on. In fact, it's what Newt Gingrich proposed over a decade ago.


DO NOT CLICK ON THESE IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED I AM NOT BULLSHITTING

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee58/bubbathegimp/Personal/wound.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee58/bubbathegimp/Personal/wound2.jpg

I too have walked down the road you are on. I totally understand. OTOH, some healthcare is better than none.

As far as the pics, I had to Clean, Care and Assess leg wounds under the 'supervision' of a doctor. Until the time the doctor went to Vegas for a 10 day symposium. At that time she got gangrene up to her knee. Her leg weighed over a hundred pounds due to edema and there was no time to wait. I had to clean as far up and inside her leg as the gangrene had nearly reached her knee. As horrific as pictures look, the smell is indescribable and that's a very good thing. I won't go into the phlebitis or the maggots having to be cleaned out on numerous occasions.

[n2ize]

One of the things I mentioned in my commentary/Clinton letter was that the system the way it is, Is setup where you either have to be completely dependent on government, (alcoholics drinking up their disability check and sleeping in alleyways, drug addicts...etc....) or completely independent, That there is no middle ground.


Not entirely true. Many states have various "halfway services" where people receive medical treatment, rehab, etc. yet they work part time, full time, or if they receive disability maintain basic functionality. There people are sort of in the "twighlight zone". They are not entirely dependent on government yet they are not wealthy or independent enough to manage the service(s) on their own. It depends often on the state/location. Some states are very good with providing supplemental services to those who are sort of "halfway" between being dependent and independent. And some states/locations are pretty rotten.

[n4aud]

I wish to take this opportunity to say HI to Audie. Hope all is well there.

Peace.
Hi to you too, everything is fine here.

[KC2UGV]

I don't find my avatar to be in the best of taste either BUT it wasn't meant to be. Obama care really pisses me off. mandatory health care under penalty of prosecution for those that just cant afford it? So do I have a beef with Obama Care? You Bet Ya!
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Therein lies the problem. Your entire opinion of the health care law is based on an unsound premise: You will face no penalty of prosecution for not carrying health insurance.

I take it you never read the law, have you?

[X-Rated]

Therein lies the problem. Your entire opinion of the health care law is based on an unsound premise: You will face no penalty of prosecution for not carrying health insurance.

I take it you never read the law, have you?

Why read the law when you can blame the black guy and display a racist photo and use personal problems to excuse the bad taste?

I know you are a nice guy, Bob and you are obviously smart. We all do what we gotta do though.

[KG4CGC]

As far as avatars go, hope you guys find my new one enjoyable on multiple levels. I was thinking of incorporating it into a QSL card. I am behind on reciprocating.

[W3MIV]

As far as avatars go, hope you guys find my new one enjoyable on multiple levels. I was thinking of incorporating it into a QSL card. I am behind on reciprocating.

Hope your rig is an ICOM or a YAESU because I think I have seen that logo on a rice box somewhere or other.

[KG4CGC]

Hope your rig is an ICOM or a YAESU because I think I have seen that logo on a rice box somewhere or other.
If that's the case then chalk it up to great minds thinking alike. I assembled this avatar from scratch and a breadboard.

[W3WN]

As far as avatars go, hope you guys find my new one enjoyable on multiple levels. I was thinking of incorporating it into a QSL card. I am behind on reciprocating.Don't think about it. Do it! That's a great design.

[KG4CGC]

Don't think about it. Do it! That's a great design.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/drinks/e73a1924.jpg

[WX7P]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/drinks/e73a1924.jpg

Check.

From the cranium of Chackal.

Heh, heh, heh. I like it.

[KG4CGC]

Thank you. I tried some more terrestrial-scapes but the Moon proved to work better. So far. Until I change my mind.

[W3WN]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/drinks/e73a1924.jpg

Nice! Especially the little embellishment in the bottom left corner!

[WØTKX]

I want your radio Charles. :evil:

My favorite Ten Tec for looks. True story.
And it works damn good too.

I changed my Avatar too. Gotta keep up with the Charles's. :mrgreen:

[KG4CGC]

It is a swell radio. Good on the my old, factory addled ears.

[WØTKX]

Well, the Flex is an eye opener. Wonderful to listen to for hours.

But it's a little blue Pizza box. Needs a nixie digital readout. For soul.

[W5GA]

Well, the Flex is an eye opener. Wonderful to listen to for hours.

But it's a little blue Pizza box. Needs a nixie digital readout. For soul.
A KNOB would be good, too.

[KG4CGC]

Well, the Flex is an eye opener. Wonderful to listen to for hours.

But it's a little blue Pizza box. Needs a nixie digital readout. For soul.
That would be cool. One of a kind custom. QSL card stuff!

[WØTKX]

You can make skins for the app. Imagine that, but I have not done it.

[N7YA]

You guys are talking Swahili to me right now. But since were on the subject of rigs...has anyone tried the TenTec Eagle yet? Apparently, its TT's response to the K3 market.

[KJ3N]

A KNOB would be good, too.

What? You don't get enough of the KNOBS here? ;) :lol:

[W3WN]

It is a swell radio. Good on the my old, factory addled ears.My ONLY regret about the Corsair II is that it's not got that nice charcoal color that the original Corsair had.

[W3WN]

You guys are talking Swahili to me right now. But since were on the subject of rigs...has anyone tried the TenTec Eagle yet? Apparently, its TT's response to the K3 market.I'm looking forward to seeing one at Dayton. If I had the shekels, I'd take a flyer on one.

Y'know, it's funny... for years (before he left to take over Vibroplex) Scott W4PA & I would talk, and I kept telling him that Ten-Tec needed a small profile 100 W radio, essentially (after this came out) an Argonaut V with a 100 W output. IIRC, his response was that they didn't think there was enough of a market for a rig like that, at a price-point where it was both affordable to the buyer and cost-effective (ie profitable) to T-T. And yet, now, here it is. Go figure.

[W3WN]

Well, the Flex is an eye opener. Wonderful to listen to for hours.

But it's a little blue Pizza box. Needs a nixie digital readout. For soul.I played a little with one of those. W3WH bought a Flex (and a new laptop) with the insurance proceeds from his destroyed Omni VI.

It's a nice radio, one of the better commercial SDR's I've seen. It's the type of rig, though, that would make me want to rent a closet on top of a small skyscraper, or in a storage area somewhere... hang a vertical outside somewhere, put the rig and a laptop in a rack in that closet, and remote control it via a high speed FiOS connection. For daily operation, I prefer a radio with knobs. And I don't know if the Flex could hold up as a major contest rig, either.

I'll never know with Bill's rig, though. He ended up selling the Flex off and buying a used K1 & K2 to compliment his K3.

[WØTKX]

I have had a number of QSO's with a local that got the Eagle, he loves it.

No face time for me in front of one, yet. There will be some on the used market in time.

But I would rather have a an original Corsair first. Ten Tec museum obsession.

[W3WN]

I have had a number of QSO's with a local that got the Eagle, he loves it.

No face time for me in front of one, yet. There will be some on the used market in time.

But I would rather have a an original Corsair first. Ten Tec museum obsession.Corsairs can be found. They may need a little TLC, but they're usually quite reasonable. The tricky part is finding the 263 Remote VFO, those tend to be a little on the rare side. Also, some cretins stip the optional filters out of Corsairs and sell them off separately, so you have to watch out for that. There's almost always one or two available on eBay, but some of the auctiion goniffs drive the prices up.

Also, and I almost hate to say this, you have to watch out for the knobs. After 25 years, some of them will crack. Fortunately, you can get the exact replacements (EXCEPT for the metal insert, which is cosmetic anyway) from Ten-Tec for a few bucks.

I got my Corsair II from W3WH a few years ago for $550, and that included the power supply the RVFO, and 2 of the 3 optional filters (1.8 kHz & 500 Hz), I've since picked up the 250 Hz filter as well, and the 705 desk mike (it came with the hand mike). Bill could easily have gotten another 2 bills if it had gone on the open market, and of course, YMMV.

I am keeping my eyes open for another PS & RVFO, though. Two reasons... one, the PS has a dent in the front & is missing the logo, cosmetic damage but it still is distracting; two, the PS & RVFO are for the Corsair -- not the Corsair II. So they're charcoal, not grey like the II !

Outside of the color, if you can find a II, it is a slight improvement over the original. Some circuit upgrades, and the built-in keyer is nice; one less piece of equipment on the table.

If I hear of anything, I'll let you know.

[WØTKX]

I might sell my Pegasus to get a Corsair. Maybe.

I know the II is better, but I don't care, and the VFO would be nice. It sure is fun using the dual receive on the external VFO with the Omni D's I have, got the VFO and power supplies for both of them. I have a radio hoarding problem. :lol:

[KG4CGC]

All my filter bays are full. :neener:

[WØTKX]

I hate you more than ever. :neener:

[KG4CGC]

I made the power connector by cutting up 2 Kenwood connectors and reassembling them. Had to order the proper circuit breakers from Poco Sales.
http://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php?11917-Poco-Sales-Thumbs-Up!&highlight=Poco+sales (http://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php?11917-Poco-Sales-Thumbs-Up%21&highlight=Poco+sales)

[WØTKX]

Yup, I remember passing that info along.

Good stuff from the Ten Tec reflector.