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KJ3N
03-30-2011, 03:19 PM
This (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/samsung-selling-notebook-with-pre-installed-keylogger/12113?tag=mantle_skin;content) is gonna get somebody in trouble.

NQ6U
03-30-2011, 03:42 PM
Things like this are the reason I always do a clean install of the OS on any new computer I buy.

n2ize
03-30-2011, 03:42 PM
I think these companies are shooting themselves in the foot with this crap. People still expect a little privacy. the idea of a manufacturer being able to monitor every keystroke of a computer that you bought , paid for, and own just isn't going to set very well.

KG4CGC
03-30-2011, 03:47 PM
I suppose you guys can guess how I feel.

NQ6U
03-30-2011, 03:55 PM
I suppose you guys can guess how I feel.

You're all for it, right? If we don't have anything to hide, what are we worried about, right?

KG4CGC
03-30-2011, 04:18 PM
You're all for it, right? If we don't have anything to hide, what are we worried about, right?
If I was a GOP Tea Party supporter, then yeah.

n2ize
03-31-2011, 02:18 AM
2 companies I can't stand are Sams Sung and Soh-Nee

N8YX
03-31-2011, 06:48 AM
Jury's still out on this one. I would like to see more people come forth with evidence of it installed on their machines.

Where's proof of the code actually doing anything? The following commentary raises some interesting questions:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2061772&cid=35672540

ETA:

Looks to be a false positive from an installed AV scanner, and is triggering on a language pack from Microsoft:

http://samsungtomorrow.tistory.com/m/1071

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/366442/samsung-denies-installing-keyloggers-on-laptops

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002133.html

W4RLR
03-31-2011, 05:53 PM
2 companies I can't stand are Sams Sung and Soh-NeeI'm a Sony fan, but that is because I used Sony Professional gear all my working life. Like you, I don't have a lot of love for Samsung.

n2ize
03-31-2011, 07:10 PM
Jury's still out on this one. I would like to see more people come forth with evidence of it installed on their machines.

Where's proof of the code actually doing anything? The following commentary raises some interesting questions:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2061772&cid=35672540

ETA:

Looks to be a false positive from an installed AV scanner, and is triggering on a language pack from Microsoft:

http://samsungtomorrow.tistory.com/m/1071

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/366442/samsung-denies-installing-keyloggers-on-laptops

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002133.html

Well, if this guy claims to be a "security expert" he sure leaves a lot to be desired. I would think twice about hiring his company to handle my security. he's almost as bad as HB-Gary. :)

One of the things I find disturbing about the IT business is that there are too many self proclaimed "experts" who are not experts at all. Back in the 1990's and early 2000's there were lots of so called "expert programmers" out there. But most of them knew nothing about programing. They wrote a few simple cgi scripts or some javascripts and they thought they knew all there is to know about programming. They knew nothing about taking a complex problem and designing and optimizing algorithms, translating them into efficient code, etc. As I used to say, 'a few simple web scripts does not a programmer make"