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kc7jty
03-28-2011, 01:37 AM
did I ask this before?
It's called garbage here. An empty soda bottle, empty cracker box, plastic bag, yesterday's newspaper, it's all garbage. If you call it trash they know what you mean though.
Took my garbage to the dump today. You have to have a state license plate to get past the entry guard, and oh yes they weigh your vehicle.
The woman asks: "Is it garbage?" I say yes then she gives me a card with a number on it and the words "solid waste".
After I unload, the car is weighed again, I give back the card and she says have a nice day.

Next time when she asks if it's garbage I'm gonna say:

"NO, IT'S SOLID WASTE!"

n2ize
03-28-2011, 01:45 AM
Around these parts it's called garbage or, more correctly pronounced...GAH-BIDGE !! We call the receptacles "GARBAGE CANS" (pronounced GAHBIDGE CANS). I remember back in the old days some people called them "ash cans" because the metal receptacles were once used for carrying out the coal ash for pickup. Yes they actually had "ash men" who owuld come around and pick up the ashes. Today we call the guy who pich up the gah-bidge... Gah-bidge men or Gag-bidge collectors.

KG4CGC
03-28-2011, 02:53 AM
did I ask this before?
It's called garbage here. An empty soda bottle, empty cracker box, plastic bag, yesterday's newspaper, it's all garbage. If you call it trash they know what you mean though.
Took my garbage to the dump today. You have to have a state license plate to get past the entry guard, and oh yes they weigh your vehicle.
The woman asks: "Is it garbage?" I say yes then she gives me a card with a number on it and the words "solid waste".
After I unload, the car is weighed again, I give back the card and she says have a nice day.

Next time when she asks if it's garbage I'm gonna say:

"NO, IT'S SOLID WASTE!"
OK. Explain the need for scales since you did not mention getting charged by weight.

The dump here, you just drive up and take your crap to its proper waste receptacle bin. They get a little paranoid it they see you walking through the electronics, like carrying an old monitor in to set on the pile properly. Nowhere does it say to throw the shit in and break glass and heavy elements all over the place.

kc7jty
03-28-2011, 03:56 AM
Idaho is very fuked in many ways. We champion freedom and all that pursuit of happiness crap but won't recycle unless it's a free give away to them like alum cans. Then they get all bent out of shape if you generate too much garbage.
THEY ARE CONCERNED SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SLIP SOME EXTRA WASTE they might have piked up at aunt Nellie's place.

Out of staters I believe must show they own or rent property here and pay taxes to unload their garbage.
They charge to dump construction waste.
Get caught trying to unload an old tire and they take you behind the shed and knock the crap out of ya.

Tire salesman at tire store:
"That will be $3 each to properly dispose of your old tires"
Customer:
"Oh, I want them to make tire swings for the kids and planters for the wife"
Salesman:
"OK"
On the way home customer drives along the railroad access road and accidentally loses 4 used tires.

The litter problem is terrible here, nobody can figure why. They WON'T fine anybody for littering, and these local goody two shoes types go along the roads picking up the tons of crap then get a sign along the road telling everyone what a dumb ass they are for picking up after the pigs that are products of the goofy way the system works.

W3MIV
03-28-2011, 06:10 AM
Traditionally, garbage was "edible" refuse and trash is ordinary solid waste like packaging, cans, etc. When I was a little kid, we had garbage cans, trash cans and ash cans. All separate. Garbage cans had to be washed out regularly, especially in summer, or you couldn't get near them for the smell and the flies. No plastic bags back then.

Here in Howard County, Maryland, we recycle. That is to say, we RECYCLE! The county gummint picks up refuse -- trash and garbage -- once per week and also picks up recyclable material once per week. Each household has been issued a recycling contrainer -- mine is about fifty gallons in size and very robust. Thank God it's got big wheels. I usually only have a single "tall kitchen bag" of normal refuse per week, but I generally manage to fill the big, blue barrel weekly.

Here the land fill is open to all county residents for free, but bureaucratic divisions within it are enough to madden anyone. Electronics go here; batteries go there. Paints and combustibles are received on Fridays here; mulchable yard waste must be disposed of there. Appliances must be dropped off here, but all steel and other metal scrap needs to be stored there. All commercial refuse is chargeable by the ton, and that includes construction materials from homeowners as well.

Up until about ten years ago, the land fill here was a real land fill -- a big, ugly, muddy scar in the earth with bazillions of crows and seagulls fighting over scraps. Now the land fill is a large "mountain" that has been sealed and is covered with grass and new trees. Too much growth; many houses; too many residents; too much refuse. Now everything is shipped out in large semis to some benighted location -- probably in Nevada ;) -- unknown to me.

Apparently, recycling here has made a very big difference in mitgating the costs of regular refuse collection. The county contacts with a recycling firm and they handle everything, apparently making a profit on what they collect. We don't even have to separate cans, paper, etc as we once did -- it all goes in the big container. I used to fill two cans weekly; now I put out just the single bag of mixed kitchen garbage.

w3bny
03-28-2011, 08:25 AM
I call it recyclables as well. I take more stuff to the county recycle station than I do trash out on the curb. And here very soon I am stopping my refuse pick up service all together since I will be getting an in-house composter station. So if its food stuff it will get composted. So I should take one bag a week to the county transfer station (free). The composter I am getting will do cat waste safely but would have to change to a more expensive litter to do that....sooo...all that N2 will just have to go to the county.

ab1ga
03-28-2011, 09:02 AM
You take out the garbage, you take home the trash?

KC2UGV
03-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Yeah, basically Albi nailed it. Garbage is wet refuse. Trash is dry refuse.

W3WN
03-28-2011, 09:48 AM
You take out the garbage, you take home the trash?Now now. That's no way to talk about my ex.
[cue: rimshot]

W3WN
03-28-2011, 09:59 AM
They're getting very tight-assed locally about disposing of certain things in the trash. Effective a few weeks back, anything electronic can't be put out on the curb, it Must Be Recycled. Of course, there's no place to TAKE these to be recycled yet, but that's not their problem.

So right before the new rules went into effect, I got rid of a lot of old computer stuff. Most of my 5 1/4" floppies (don't have a drive for them anyway) that have been sitting collecting dust for years, old hard drives (remember when a 1 GB drive was something? Most of these were less than that, much less than that) for pre-Pentium I class machines, and so on. Put everything into large black plastic "contractor" trash bags, tied them off tight, put the bags in trash cans. They went.

Put some empty computer cases out a few weeks ago, along side the recycle bin (recycle pickup is every other week... and technically, it's a crime to "steal" from someone's recycle container). They lasted about 2 hours before the local metal scavengers got them. They also took our old greasy & scummy range hood as well.

They also won't take empty paint cans. We're supposed to fill the cans with some saw-dust like material to make all the leftover paint "safe" and "solid" -- yeah, I know, empty paint can means no paint, but they won't take them unless we go through this procedure. So, I do the same thing... put them in the opaque bags, with other trash, seal the bags (so that the contents aren't obvious) and put it in a trash can. Trash collectors just pick up the cans and dump the contents. (They're supposed to open bags left on the curb if there's any suspicion of "contraband" but if it's in the can, they don't bother, just pick up & dump.)

I'm all for recycling, but some of these new county regulations are absurd.

KC2UGV
03-28-2011, 10:07 AM
I never understood some of the recycling rules here in Buffalo, either. They accept steel (All metals, actually); bu refuse to take empty computer cases. Even if they have been stripped of all the plastic and PC boards :(

So, I stock piled the stuff, along with a washer and dryer (Both working, but unreliable) that nobody wanted (Even people who've lost everything in house fires). Then, I went to the scrap yard: Got $100 for it all.

Made me re-think my consulting work...

W3WN
03-28-2011, 10:20 AM
I'm all for recycling, but some of the rules are ridiculous.

We're supposed to wash bottles and cans before putting them in the bin. Which wastes more energy and resources. I checked into it, the process that the local recycling firm uses makes that process irrelevant; they treat everything "coming in" anyway.

Certain types of plastic are not considered eligible for recycling. For example, I just had the top to a plastic storage bin break. The recycling truck wouldn't take them... they actually removed them from the bin and put them on top of the trash. Then the trash collectors left them... because they're not supposed to take plastic, it's supposed to be recycled, you know.

And now that old television sets are no longer considered "trash" but "potentially hazardous material requiring special handling," I'm noticing a few more old sets abandoned in the woods up the street from us. Right next to the pile of old, bald tires. (And the cops tell me... well the Castle Shannon cops say that that area is in Baldwin Township, the Baldwin cops say it's in Mount Lebanon, and guess what the Mt.Lebo cops say? Maybe I should put a box of doughnuts there the next time...)

KC2UGV
03-28-2011, 10:33 AM
I'm all for recycling, but some of the rules are ridiculous.

We're supposed to wash bottles and cans before putting them in the bin. Which wastes more energy and resources. I checked into it, the process that the local recycling firm uses makes that process irrelevant; they treat everything "coming in" anyway.

Certain types of plastic are not considered eligible for recycling. For example, I just had the top to a plastic storage bin break. The recycling truck wouldn't take them... they actually removed them from the bin and put them on top of the trash. Then the trash collectors left them... because they're not supposed to take plastic, it's supposed to be recycled, you know.

And now that old television sets are no longer considered "trash" but "potentially hazardous material requiring special handling," I'm noticing a few more old sets abandoned in the woods up the street from us. Right next to the pile of old, bald tires. (And the cops tell me... well the Castle Shannon cops say that that area is in Baldwin Township, the Baldwin cops say it's in Mount Lebanon, and guess what the Mt.Lebo cops say? Maybe I should put a box of doughnuts there the next time...)

Dunno if you ever frequent Best Buy, but TV's up to 52" can be taken there, and you get a $20 gift card for each one (After paying $20 for them to take it).

kc7jty
03-28-2011, 01:58 PM
I remember the garbage cans with the handle that locked the lid on. A special truck collected it and fed it to the hogs, eeyuk.
It's trash to me what I take to the transfer station.
I put all my bones into an empty orange juice carton that's kept in the freezer. Everything else goes down the garbage disposer.

WØTKX
03-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Once a week garbage pickup, every two weeks the big purple automatic recycle bin goes in the street.

The "off weeks" for garbage I sometimes skip, because I don't have that much.
Recycle far more than throw away now, but the bin is usually not full.

Every nine weeks they do large item/yard trash pickup. Furniture and building materials is fine.
If you call ahead, they will take electronics, and have numerous hazardous disposal sites.

Denver is pretty green in that way, but people do throw trash around far more than we did in MN.

The resort and mountain towns are very green and clean.
It's easier if there are trash and recycle bins everywhere.

KK4AMI
03-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Around these parts it's called garbage or, more correctly pronounced...GAH-BIDGE !! We call the receptacles "GARBAGE CANS" (pronounced GAHBIDGE CANS). I remember back in the old days some people called them "ash cans" because the metal receptacles were once used for carrying out the coal ash for pickup. Yes they actually had "ash men" who owuld come around and pick up the ashes. Today we call the guy who pich up the gah-bidge... Gah-bidge men or Gag-bidge collectors.

Back here in Virginia we refer to New York garbage as "Interstate Commerce"

n2ize
03-28-2011, 05:04 PM
Yeah, basically Albi nailed it. Garbage is wet refuse. Trash is dry refuse.

True, but down here in Southeast NY it is all known as GAH-BIDGE.

W7XF
03-28-2011, 09:42 PM
іііPINCHI BASURA!!!

kc7jty
03-28-2011, 10:58 PM
Donde está un bote para basura por favor?

Allí, cerca del buzón.