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KA5PIU
02-12-2011, 03:57 AM
Hello.

Now that it is all over I can explain the rest of the story.
Old teletypewriter circuits, much like other telegraph circuits, were multiplexed.
http://www.navy-radio.com/rtty.htm
NO! older!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraphy
The very old system was a mechanical commutator.
Germany took this basic idea and ran with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
Neat idea, right?
Now, take that basic idea and have each single "answer", each light bulb trigger a master oscillator.
have groups of 5 trigger 5 master oscillators, the reason being that the actual frequency of the transmitter is limited on HF without retuning.
The transmitter does retune, but in increments.
The AN/GRC-9 was one of the first radios to have this option added.
5 possible frequencies per group, dozens of groups.
As the traffic is sent the rotors advance and change the groups, and retune the radio.
The AN/GRC-9 is a bit of history, like the teletype machine it was connected to.
But, there is no reason you have to use a TTY machine, you can dumb it down to a mark and space of the FSK mode, a simple paddle will do.
Enter the modern era of radio.
Radios can autotune an antenna tuner, simple serial data.
Now, an IBM PC or clone can provide the serial data needed to retune the radio, the frequency information as well as provide the needed output for the transmitter.
The "TTY machine" as well as the encryption device is now an inexpensive laptop.
Modern radios and tuners can jump in frequency in very short order.
The limiting factor is the MUF and the bandwidth of the antenna.
But this is true spread spectrum operation and a pretty good level of encryption.
Trying to detect this, leave alone actually receive a usable signal, is not an option for the average ham.
The FT-8x7 series of radios are by far the best radio for this, the way they are set up, the speed of retuning, the very portable nature, the interface, all lead to it being a natural.
And, the other device can be nearly any laptop.
Think about this, the press have been reporting that "Morse code" was being used, and several dozen members of the press have stated that they are aware of this, yet the Jewish hams have been saying that this is not true.
The reporters are not wrong, what they have been seeing is correct, and trust me, the media asks a lot of questions, including proof by way of actual messages.
Remember, it is their reputation that is on the line, so they want as complete a story as they can get, and backing of their editors.
Think an Arab wants to avoid the Jews? :mrgreen:
My proof of this is on Amateur Radio Newsline.

suddenseer
02-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Well Okaaaay then.

N8GAV
02-12-2011, 11:32 AM
Charles when you open the bar give me a bottle of Jim Beam and a bucket of ice. Maybe then I can understand what the hell rudy is saying. :)








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NQ6U
02-12-2011, 12:41 PM
Charles when you open the bar give me a bottle of Jim Beam and a bucket of ice. Maybe then I can understand what the hell rudy is saying. :)


No, alcohol is the wrong drug. What you need is this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KHDVpwHoS0U/SyreQE-V9SI/AAAAAAAAA04/N4-KRhDNmI4/s400/medical_marijuana_transplant_Garon.jpg





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KA5PIU
02-12-2011, 01:24 PM
Hello.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency-hopping_spread_spectrum
http://www.kc2rlm.info/soundcardpacket/

KG4CGC
02-12-2011, 02:47 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/hotdog.jpg

n2ize
02-12-2011, 08:32 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/hotdog.jpg

Huh ??? OK

KG4CGC
02-12-2011, 08:33 PM
Huh ??? OK
Hotdog buddies. :)

W7XF
02-13-2011, 08:54 AM
No, alcohol is the wrong drug. What you need is this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KHDVpwHoS0U/SyreQE-V9SI/AAAAAAAAA04/N4-KRhDNmI4/s400/medical_marijuana_transplant_Garon.jpg
Carl...I think Cowthief has that in his tacos xD





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VE7DCW
02-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Hello.

Now that it is all over I can explain the rest of the story.
Old teletypewriter circuits, much like other telegraph circuits, were multiplexed.
http://www.navy-radio.com/rtty.htm
NO! older!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraphy
The very old system was a mechanical commutator.
Germany took this basic idea and ran with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
Neat idea, right?
Now, take that basic idea and have each single "answer", each light bulb trigger a master oscillator.
have groups of 5 trigger 5 master oscillators, the reason being that the actual frequency of the transmitter is limited on HF without retuning.
The transmitter does retune, but in increments.
The AN/GRC-9 was one of the first radios to have this option added.
5 possible frequencies per group, dozens of groups.
As the traffic is sent the rotors advance and change the groups, and retune the radio.
The AN/GRC-9 is a bit of history, like the teletype machine it was connected to.
But, there is no reason you have to use a TTY machine, you can dumb it down to a mark and space of the FSK mode, a simple paddle will do.
Enter the modern era of radio.
Radios can autotune an antenna tuner, simple serial data.
Now, an IBM PC or clone can provide the serial data needed to retune the radio, the frequency information as well as provide the needed output for the transmitter.
The "TTY machine" as well as the encryption device is now an inexpensive laptop.
Modern radios and tuners can jump in frequency in very short order.
The limiting factor is the MUF and the bandwidth of the antenna.
But this is true spread spectrum operation and a pretty good level of encryption.
Trying to detect this, leave alone actually receive a usable signal, is not an option for the average ham.
The FT-8x7 series of radios are by far the best radio for this, the way they are set up, the speed of retuning, the very portable nature, the interface, all lead to it being a natural.
And, the other device can be nearly any laptop.
Think about this, the press have been reporting that "Morse code" was being used, and several dozen members of the press have stated that they are aware of this, yet the Jewish hams have been saying that this is not true.
The reporters are not wrong, what they have been seeing is correct, and trust me, the media asks a lot of questions, including proof by way of actual messages.
Remember, it is their reputation that is on the line, so they want as complete a story as they can get, and backing of their editors.
Think an Arab wants to avoid the Jews? :mrgreen:
My proof of this is on Amateur Radio Newsline.

Only one thing you can say about all this......


HUH ?? :wtf:

NQ6U
02-13-2011, 12:51 PM
Only one thing you can say about all this......


HUH ?? :wtf:


No, there is one other thing that can be said:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5JCp2Hd5L8

KG4CGC
02-13-2011, 02:58 PM
Charles when you open the bar give me a bottle of Jim Beam and a bucket of ice. Maybe then I can understand what the hell rudy is saying. :)







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How 'bout I just fill the bucket with Jim Beam?

kb2vxa
02-13-2011, 09:46 PM
I wish I was in Tijuana
Eating barbecued iguana
I'd take requests on the telephone
I'm on a wavelength far from home
I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
I dial it in from south of the border
I hear the talking of the DJ
Can't understand just what does he say?

NQ6U
02-13-2011, 09:52 PM
I wish I was in Tijuana
Eating barbecued iguana
I'd take requests on the telephone
I'm on a wavelength far from home
I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
I dial it in from south of the border
I hear the talking of the DJ
Can't understand just what does he say?

Stan Ridgeway and Wall of Voodoo!

As I was leaving Northern California in a U-Haul van bound for San Diego, a friend of mine who was a DJ on a local radio station played some traveling music for me. One of the songs he played was Mexican Radio. It made me smile.

On Edit: WART

KG4CGC
02-13-2011, 09:58 PM
Almost forgot,
WART

VE7DCW
02-13-2011, 10:04 PM
Me too......WART ......I see a certificate available .....for participation in Rudy WTF threads :yes:

W4RLR
02-14-2011, 05:47 AM
It's nearly five a.m. I'm on the net because I can't sleep. After reading this thread, I can't sleep and my head hurts.

KA5PIU
02-15-2011, 03:37 AM
It's nearly five a.m. I'm on the net because I can't sleep. After reading this thread, I can't sleep and my head hurts.

Hello.

Let me guess, you tried to think, didn't you?

w2amr
02-15-2011, 03:01 PM
This reminds me of a computer virus we got once. It took random words and sentences , globbed it all together in an E mail, then sent it to everyone in our address book.

NQ6U
02-15-2011, 03:03 PM
This reminds me of a computer virus we got once. It took random words and sentences , globbed it all together in an E mail, then sent it to everyone in our address book.

So, you're suggesting that Rudy might be nothing more than a computer virus? I do believe you may be onto something there.

KA5PIU
02-16-2011, 01:05 AM
Hello.

A computer virus with electric spurs? as Kinky would say, Why the hell not?!

W7XF
02-16-2011, 08:40 PM
WART