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koØm
01-30-2011, 01:34 PM
“Where do I begin to tell the story…………………”

About 18 months ago, I came into contact with this CB’er who needed repair work done on some “Legacy” equipment (my mentor and former employer, W8ERG SK was very prolific in his manufacturing. I am the “Go-to guy” when it come to stuff that he constructed).

As I am doing repair work for him, I am watching him burn up three Imax Ground plane Antennas from too many watts input. As quickly as I repair the equipment (Drake L4-B, Varmints, Golden Falcons, Heath SB 220’s ) he destroys it and, I cover it under a warranty circumstance; everything he touches turns to "ca-ca". I confront him and tell him that I cannot continue support his stupidity surrounding the amplifiers.

He goes out and buys this: 3886 and, he burns the parasitic suppressors off, flattens the tubes and, shorts out the Load tuner.

http://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php?12176-OK-who-did-it (http://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php?12176-OK-who-did-it)

Eventually, he talks me into getting into bed with him by selling him a QRO amp that I constructed. He gets it home and, just like everything else, the “Reciprocal Midas Touch” kicks in and, I attempt to do the responsible thing by getting the RF deck and bringing back to repair; I leave the B+ power supply at his house.

While I have the RF deck on the bench, the CB’er takes the B+ supply and starts running back and forth between numbers of people (in different cities!!!) who try to hook their RF decks to his B+ supply. I find out about it and, I tell him that this has damaged our business relationship and ends any and all agreement from me to support the equipment because he has modified / abused it. Now, he cannot even make the B+ supply available for me to connect the RF deck to in order to test.

So, in conclusion, I have been doing work on a piece of equipment owned by chicken-band whore/operator who has abandoned interest and left the equipment in an unusable state. He is not responding to phone calls, voicemails or, Text messages. I am thinking of some combination the following actions:


Remove / scavenge valuable components and replace them with lower wattage scrap.
Place doggy poop in several Ziploc bags; duct tape the same to bottom of RF deck.
Seal the RF deck with multiple tamper proof labels.
Label reads, “This equipment has not been tested to compliance to FCC 47 CFR Part 15.
File a Lien for the service provided and attach it to his property.
I need your sympathy, prayers and, the largest container of Flea-Powder that you can find; one application will not be enough. I need enough to treat my whole house and also my “Brain”. Please pray that I do not continue to sink to a level lower than that of Whale Shit at the bottom of the Marianna’s Trench.

ETA: Thanks in advance for all the "You stoopid SOB" comments that I get; I deserve them.


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WØTKX
01-30-2011, 01:39 PM
From the "I sell crack, and one of my customers robbed me" department.

Mean no offense, but why are you or would you do this at all? Ever?

koØm
01-30-2011, 02:06 PM
From the "I sell crack, and one of my customers robbed me" department.

Mean no offense, but why are you or would you do this at all? Ever?

Do you ask the convience store operator why does he sell cigarettes or the Sporting Goods store why they sell Ammo;

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n150/Paws264/warning.jpg

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NQ6U
01-30-2011, 02:07 PM
From the "I sell crack, and one of my customers robbed me" department.

Mean no offense, but why are you or would you do this at all? Ever?

Because it makes a good story? I have some doubts about the veracity of this post.

koØm
01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
Because it makes a good story? I have some doubts about the veracity of this post.

ROFL I don't have a clue about your personal circumstances but, I betcha if we could trade places you would run screaming back to home in a "New York minute"; every word in the post is true.

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NQ6U
01-30-2011, 02:16 PM
ROFL I don't have a clue about your personal circumstances but, I betcha if we could trade places you would run screaming back to home in a "New York minute"; every word in the post is true.

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You're half right--you don't have a clue. If every word in the post is true then you deserve everything you got. Chalk it up to experience, don't do it again and, most of all, don't come whining here if you do.

KG4CGC
01-30-2011, 02:17 PM
Send one back with a camera mounted in one of the lights and find out what he's doing. You're in this far, might as well go all the way.

koØm
01-30-2011, 02:28 PM
.........don't come whining here if you do.

<sarcasm>I'll have you know, I will "whine" where i wanna!</sarcasm>

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ki4itv
01-30-2011, 02:50 PM
The devil opened up his mic and he howled: "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from his fingertips as he turns it QRO.
And he pulled the mic across his desk and it made an evil hiss.
Then a band of demons joined in and it sounded something like this.

"Screeeeeee! BURN BURN BURN- I STOMP"EM HARD- ROGER4-Screeeeee!"

When the devil finished, Mud Duck said: "Well you're pretty good ol' son.
"But sit down at that rig, right there, and let me show you how its done."

"cq forty, cq forty, cq forty meters..."

The devil bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
He laid that golden screwdriver on the ground at Mud Ducks feet.



haha- there's a moral hidden deep in this thread somewhere :lol:
*all the usual apolizings to Charlie Daniels and his fine band.

N5RLR
01-30-2011, 03:08 PM
Obviously this Charlie Chickenchoker has more dollars than sense. You may have to decide if it would be worth your time and money to initiate any kind of legal procedure.

If not, well...y'know, it's funny how that leenyar just sorta disappeared...you get my drift. :stirpot:

KJ3N
01-30-2011, 03:22 PM
Prays and Sympathy Needed Please!

You'll get neither from me. I'd just as soon shoot the both of you. :boohoo: :slap: :disagree:

N8YX
01-30-2011, 04:43 PM
No excuses on Da 'Bowl.

koØm
01-30-2011, 04:52 PM
You'll get neither from me. I'd just as soon shoot the both of you. :boohoo: :slap: :disagree:

Prayer really can't help me but, a .380 slug between the eyes might ease the suffering!

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ab1ga
01-30-2011, 04:55 PM
Attaching his property is out unless you want to draw attention to the fact that you sold a CBer an amplifier. Grind that RF deck into dust, claim you sold him nothing more than a power supply, and NEVER do that again.

PA5COR
01-30-2011, 05:10 PM
^what he said

KA5PIU
01-31-2011, 12:35 AM
Hello.

Why do people do this?
For the same reason they take the common car and add all the extra chit to "customize" it.
Same reason they will "build" a "muscle" car.
Same chit, different stink.
I look at my motorcycle and am happy with it, very much stock with an FTM-10SR and a CB talkie.
A helmet mounted GMRS radio and bluetooth round it all out.
The number of people who ask why I do not do or add or mod is astounding.
When asked why they do not do this I usually get that deer in the headlight look.
Quite a few do not ride so I point out that one of the reasons I ride is to get away from the idiots.
You do what makes you happy, I do my thing.

ab1ga
02-01-2011, 05:28 PM
Hello.

Why do people do this?
...
You do what makes you happy, I do my thing.

Rudi,
It would make me very happy if you don't tell me any more about your thing.

73,

.dale.

NQ6U
02-01-2011, 05:35 PM
Rudi,
It would make me very happy if you don't tell me any more about your thing.

And I curse you for implanting that mental image into my brain.

ab1ga
02-01-2011, 05:56 PM
And I curse you for implanting that mental image into my brain.

Have you been thinking impure thoughts? Confession this Saturday... :-)

73,

.dale.

NQ6U
02-01-2011, 06:08 PM
Have you been thinking impure thoughts? Confession this Saturday... :-)

PRIEST TO ME IN THE CONFESSIONAL: "Your last confession was WHEN??"

ab1ga
02-01-2011, 06:32 PM
My confessor knew it had been a while when he heard me saying the Act of Contrition in Latin.

koØm
07-29-2011, 12:43 PM

Do you ask the convience store operator why does he sell cigarettes or the Sporting Goods store why they sell Ammo;

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n150/Paws264/warning.jpg

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Go(o)d does triumph over (D)evil !

Let's jump forward to Feburary.

I returned the equipment to the Chicken-Band-Charlie (henceforth AKA as "CBC") and he again proceeds to travel the length of Interstate Highway I-71 from Cleveland, Ohio to Louisville, K-Y hauling the RF deck and B+ power supply; he even spends nights in hotel/motel rooms while the out-of-town "Teks" look at his "Box".

It seems that a fellow in "4-Land" offer to fix it for him at a cost of $1,500 providing that the owner provides a 3CX-10,000 and socket for a rebuild. CBC's "Champagne Dreams" are in direct conflict with his "Beer Budget".

CBC contacts me and tells me that he wants me to restore his equipment and then shows up at my door with it. This is back at the end of March.

At this point, my interest is only Academic, I wanna know what has transpired inside the "Box" since he has allowed every "Swingin-Dick" within a 277 mile radius (I forgot to mention Indianapolis, In.) to screw around inside the equipment. Let me interject this: This is a "Chess Match", I am thinking 4 steps ahead and, I have no intentions what-so-ever of repairing this amplifier. After seeing what had been done and listening to what the owner said, I parked the scrap in a back closet until he received 2 NOS Vacuum Variables from the Ukraine Republic. All was quiet for about 3 months.

There was never a discussion of price for me to repair the equipment (intentional on my part) so, after CBC gets his parts shipment, he shows up ready for me to proceed to repair his equipment. I told him that it is now tiime for us to discuss price since he has purchased all of his necessary replacement parts. I informed CBC that I wanted 10% of what the Louisville "Tek" final price was to get started and, the delivery price would be "Two and 1/2 Fat Men" when I got finished. I was offering to re-establish the integrity of the equipment for a little over 20% of what he had been quoted by someone else.

CBC hit the ceiling at my suggestion that he pay me any amount to start and thought that there was some room for negotiations on the final price; CBC's strategy was to insinuate that he had intimate knowledge of my finances and, that he was doing me a favor by bring his work to me and, that I shouldn't be charging him "that much". I, according to him was just trying to "Get" him.

Having already anticipated his reaction, I internalized my joy at having a reason to turn him away. I feigned righteous indignation at the nerve of this person coming into my home and and demanding that I repair a piece of equipment that he and countless others have "taken a dump in" for the price that he wants to pay, not what I charged.

It was at that point that I told that fellating Chicken-Band idiot to get his "effing shyte" out of my house, I didn't want it or his money; he demanded that I reassemble it in the manner in which he delivered it to me and, I treated him just like AAMCO Transmission Repair, I was not getting paid for any of the dis-assembly, diagnostic, repair and, storage so, he could take it just like it was: covers flapping, hardware in plastic bags and electrical assemblies (Triode Control Boards) left unconnected from circuitry. He was not moving quickly enough so, I assisted him in carrying the stuff to his Cadillac SDS Coupe.

I feel good!

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KG4CGC
07-29-2011, 01:06 PM
I want to see this one on some television court venue. Judge Joe Brown would be funny but Judge Judy would takes teh dumps on boths of youz. Nothing against you from me, just saying what Judge Judy would do. God I can't believe the people that mouth off at her KNOWING her reputation.

n2ize
07-29-2011, 08:06 PM
And you keep catering to this guy ??? Hey, I know a guy who loves to play with matches and so far he has burned down his house, my house and...:chin::chin:

kb2vxa
07-31-2011, 01:15 PM
Repeating an action over and over each time expecting a different outcome is the hallmark of insanity. When an animal in the wild makes a mistake, IF he survives never makes the same mistake again. It only goes to show misplaced pride when we call them dumb animals when we should be looking at ourselves in the mirror.

Thanks for the update and please keep us posted on who gets the Darwin Award for exceptional high voltage achievement, hopefully someone won't inform us it was you.

KC2UGV
08-01-2011, 08:40 AM
Why would you sell an amp to a person you know is operating illegally?

K7SGJ
08-01-2011, 08:47 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

KC2UGV
08-01-2011, 09:08 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Is the money worth a license, though?

koØm
08-01-2011, 09:46 AM
Repeating an action over and over each time expecting a different outcome is the hallmark of insanity. When an animal in the wild makes a mistake, IF he survives never makes the same mistake again. It only goes to show misplaced pride when we call them dumb animals when we should be looking at ourselves in the mirror.

Thanks for the update and please keep us posted on who gets the Darwin Award for exceptional high voltage achievement, hopefully someone won't inform us it was you.

Nailed it!

Yes, I would have needed my head examined if I had repaired the "Objet d'art" but, CBC has demonstrated his ability to "Swap Parts" so, all I really did was to tell him what was in need of replacement. The RF community here locally is close-knit so, I received the phone call informing me that he has taken it to my ex-pupil/nemesis.

As Teddy Roosevelt would have said, "Bully for them"!

Have you ever seen a dog get ahold of something distasteful, you know how he starts foaming at the mouth and shaking his head sharply trying to get the foul taste out of his mouth? Well, that was me!

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koØm
08-01-2011, 10:33 AM
Why would you sell an amp to a person you know is operating illegally?


Do you ask the convience store operator why does he sell cigarettes or the Sporting Goods store why they sell Ammo;

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n150/Paws264/warning.jpg

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Who was I to "Predict" what he would do or, how he would operate his own equipment on his own property. I minmized my involvement to that of an unpaid advisior. For my part, he can take the box and, haul Coal in it for all I care.

Perhaps, you watched the segment on 60 Minutes last night where the Governor of Pennsylvania compared Casino Gambling to Crack Cocaine; he implied that Crack Cocaine was only addictive to some people and that there were countless others who are not hooked on Crack Cocaine so, Crack Cocaine ( and Gambling) was OK in the right dosage when used for entertainment reasons.

Pennsylvania Governor acknowledges that Casinos are like Crack Cocaine and claims it's all good. (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7228424n)

Park outside my QTH and wait for an 11 meter signal, I promise you that your beard will grow long and gray and, that your clothing will be out of style before you monitor an 11 meter signal coming out of here.

As long as it is OK on his street and in his neighborhood and my hand is not on the Key, he can do what-so-ever he likes.

MY PERSONAL AXE TO GRIND: I am the only licensed Amateur Radio Operator within my zipcode; at least 3 fixed stations running multiple kilowatt amplifiers operate every day within a 2 mile radius of me. If, there was going to be any enforcement of any broken rules, it should start with the obvious offenders and "nar-do-wells" calling for " Skip Land".

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K7SGJ
08-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Is the money worth a license, though?

I don't know about this situation, but yes, I have seen people risk alot for very little reward. Must be a void somewhere in the brain. Stupid? You bet.

KC2UGV
08-01-2011, 11:24 AM
Who was I to "Predict" what he would do or, how he would operate his own equipment on his own property. I minmized my involvement to that of an unpaid advisior. For my part, he can take the box and, haul Coal in it for all I care.


It seems you "predicted it" rather well:


About 18 months ago, I came into contact with this CB’er who needed repair work done on some “Legacy” equipment (my mentor and former employer, W8ERG SK was very prolific in his manufacturing. I am the “Go-to guy” when it come to stuff that he constructed).

Your words, not mine. If that "legacy equipment" was not a certificated CB radio, why would you work on it for a CB operator? I know I wouldn't.

koØm
08-01-2011, 12:04 PM
It seems you "predicted it" rather well:



Your words, not mine. If that "legacy equipment" was not a certificated CB radio, why would you work on it for a CB operator? I know I wouldn't.

....For a while, I did field service for the company that builds and distributes the machine that dispenses Instant Lottery Tickets; it was sickening watching people line up to feed their moral weakness and knowing that I was profitting from it, I left the company shortly after I started.

It was not a CB Radio, it was a Drake L4-B that my mentor had worked on.

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KC2UGV
08-01-2011, 12:36 PM
....For a while, I did field service for the company that builds and distributes the machine that dispenses Instant Lottery Tickets; it was sickening watching people line up to feed their moral weakness and knowing that I was profitting from it, I left the company shortly after I started.

It was not a CB Radio, it was a Drake L4-B that my mentor had worked on.

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Hold on, so you worked on an amp, for a known CB'er, for what? Listening? You don't need an amp for listening.

My point is, you are contributing to the problem of the "Kilowatt kickers" on CB, who splatter on our bands oft times. I mean, I guess if money is that tight, but, hey. I'm not in your shoes.

I do know I would have not worked on the equipment.

koØm
08-01-2011, 01:22 PM
I repair "legacy" electronic/electrical items; I troubleshoot to component level and, I fix it.

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n6hcm
08-02-2011, 11:44 PM
God I can't believe the people that mouth off at her KNOWING her reputation.

"*umm* is not an answer!"

WX7P
08-03-2011, 06:00 AM
troll post raised from dead. Boring

N8YX
08-03-2011, 06:49 AM
troll post raised from dead. Boring


http://youtu.be/RGPLz2nX0GM

W7XF
08-04-2011, 11:46 PM
http://youtu.be/RGPLz2nX0GM

Do you want your car's ECM rare, medium, well done, or EXTRA CRISPY??

(my bet is his car's ECM went extra crispy)