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n2ize
01-06-2011, 05:19 PM
I pressed my old Jone-E hand warmer back into operation after many years in storage. That old naptha burning mini catalytic heater still does the job. A few squirts of Ronsonol and it lights up and stays toasty warm for hours. If you bury it too deep in your pocket it will have a tendency to go out occaisionaly but it relights quick and is back on the job.

Anyone remember these ? They were very popular in the 1950;s and 60's, particularly among hunters, fishermen, snowmobilers, skiers, and outdoor workers.

The whole trick in getting them to work is to be careful not to overfill. Best to underfill than overfill. A littlke bit of fuel lasts hours in these things.

NQ6U
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
I pressed my old Jone-E hand warmer back into operation after many years in storage. [...]a nyone remember these ?

I do. About the size of a large cigarette lighter and they worked pretty well. You can still buy them, too:

http://www.amazon.com/Jon-E-Handwarmer/dp/B0045E1PD8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1294352512&sr=8-2

The only thing I didn't like about them was their tendency to leak fluid but that might have been because I overfilled mine. Also, it was kind of tricky to turn one off when you were done with it if it still had fuel in it. You had to carefully pry the little catalytic element off into some sort of non-flammable container. Not a glass ash tray, though--I broke one of my mom's doing that.

KG4CGC
01-06-2011, 05:56 PM
Real Men just drink gasoline and puke fire to stay warm! I started drinking gasoline at age two out of ginger-ale bottles stored under the sink.

PA5COR
01-06-2011, 06:07 PM
Better watch out where you pee... not on campfires and the like ;)

N2CHX
01-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Real Men just drink gasoline and puke fire to stay warm! I started drinking gasoline at age two out of ginger-ale bottles stored under the sink.

Reason #5,623 why I am not a man.

KG4CGC
01-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Reason #5,623 why I am not a man.
Nah, you used to just listen to the AMBCB on your bed springs! Real Men would chew up rocks and metal and spit out semiconductors!

W3MIV
01-06-2011, 06:23 PM
I buy the air-actuated packs by the gross and hand them out at my pistol shoots for them what needs 'em. Woosies.

WØTKX
01-06-2011, 07:16 PM
I used to use those... being Minnesooootan and all.

But honestly I use the new style heat packs now. They are safer, disposable, and work well.

http://i.stpost.com/erez4/erez?src=ProductImages/99027_99.tif&tmp=FullSize&redirect=0


And if you stick them inside the Swany Toaster "mitten gloves, you're in bidness. :yes:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oV_IBSAwNBM/TPcANGYKULI/AAAAAAAAPeY/2n8HvdHAKJI/s1600/IMG_4107.JPG

K7SGJ
01-06-2011, 07:18 PM
I used to use those... being Minnesooootan and all.

But honestly I use the new style heat packs now. They are safer, disposable, and work well.

http://i.stpost.com/erez4/erez?src=ProductImages/99027_99.tif&tmp=FullSize&redirect=0

Yeah, but you miss out on the red rash on your leg where the fluid leaks.

n2ize
01-06-2011, 08:24 PM
I've never had my Jon-E leak fluid. If it leaks it is overfilled. My reccomendation... use about half the amount of fruel that Jon-E reccomends.

As far as fuels go, I find that Genuine Jon-E fuels work best... minimal odor.. But Ronsonol or Coleman "white gas" works well provided you don't overfill. Zippo makes a similar hand warmer which is supposed to be excellent.

So folks... Get those Jon-E's going, and relive those classic days of the cold, snowy, north woods. When real man breathed naptha. :)

W3MIV
01-06-2011, 08:28 PM
Also, if you stick those air-activated warmers in a small zip-lock and seal it, they will deactivate once they have used the oxy in the bag and come back to life again when brought back into the air. I didn't know this until one of our shooters showed me two he had saved and rejuvenated. Not sure how long you can use them before trying to save them or how many times they can be "lazarusized" before they crap out.

WØTKX
01-06-2011, 08:29 PM
That smell reminds me of ice fishing and old skool ski-doos...

http://www.nhsnowmobilemuseum.com/postedpictures/1288213538-p5220230.jpg

n2ize
01-06-2011, 10:01 PM
That smell reminds me of ice fishing and old skool ski-doos...

http://www.nhsnowmobilemuseum.com/postedpictures/1288213538-p5220230.jpg

Ah yes... the old Ski-Doo. A guy in my neighborhood had one in aqua-blue. He used to ride it when the local streets were covered in snow.. One day he drove it past my junior high school when we were in the middle of our midterm. Went right past our classroom window. Those old Ski-Doo's were LOUD. The new machines are QUIET. Gyy up the block has a new machine. You can hardly hear it.

ki4itv
01-07-2011, 05:57 AM
"lazarusized"
Ha. Keeper!

w2amr
01-07-2011, 06:13 AM
Hand warmers?
3821

W1GUH
01-07-2011, 08:30 AM
Yep -- had a hand warmer, but not a JON-E. Worked the same way and was reallly appreciated at times. AND!!...my hand warmer had the extra nutritional value of asbestos in the wick -- do JON-E's have that?


Yea, Ski-Dos are loud! Especially when hiking in the backcountry and the testerone-laden AH's driving them could give a crap less about the noise and the mess in the snow they're making!

KA5PIU
01-07-2011, 01:00 PM
Hello.

I have no idea as to what happened to it.
We had a Soviet era hand warmer that could supply power to a small radio.
The radio could also be powered by an oil lantern.
This was a series of thermocouples, no real reason someone could not convert a modern hand warmer or lantern.
Found this while looking for the original design.
http://www.eetimes.com/design/audio-design/4015724/Lantern-powers-radio
3 volts at around 3 watts sounds about right, the original radio would run on 2 cells or this external power.

n2ize
01-07-2011, 02:46 PM
Yep -- had a hand warmer, but not a JON-E. Worked the same way and was reallly appreciated at times. AND!!...my hand warmer had the extra nutritional value of asbestos in the wick -- do JON-E's have that?

If they don;t have asbestos in the wick now they probably did at one time. JON-E's have been around for many decades



Yea, Ski-Dos are loud! Especially when hiking in the backcountry and the testerone-laden AH's driving them could give a crap less about the noise and the mess in the snow they're making!

Modern snow machines are amazingly quiet. The old ones were loud. Did you ever drive one ? If not give it a try. It's an awesome ride.

WØTKX
01-08-2011, 10:11 AM
Had an Arctic Cat Panther 303 rotary for a while. Was a blast when it ran. Darn seals kept blowing, till I learned some "tricks"... at least it was easy to work on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk

n2ize
01-08-2011, 05:16 PM
Had an Arctic Cat Panther 303 rotary for a while. Was a blast when it ran. Darn seals kept blowing, till I learned some "tricks"... at least it was easy to work on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk

I wanted to buy one years ago but we started getting these ultra mild winters back to back with no snow so I figured it would probably end up sitting in the garage. Now we seem to be getting a lot of snow again and the temptation to get one is coming back. Maybe if I can find one used, cheap I'll go for it. Even if it's a fixer upper.

n2ize
01-08-2011, 05:26 PM
Had an Arctic Cat Panther 303 rotary for a while. Was a blast when it ran. Darn seals kept blowing, till I learned some "tricks"... at least it was easy to work on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk

Dang !! That engine smokes almost as bad as my 1978 Peugeot moped. I take it is "2 cycle" , or at least the Wankel version of 2 cycle ?

KA5PIU
01-08-2011, 06:08 PM
Had an Arctic Cat Panther 303 rotary for a while. Was a blast when it ran. Darn seals kept blowing, till I learned some "tricks"... at least it was easy to work on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRJbXSaaTk

Hello.

The shots of the mobile home add just the right touch.

NQ6U
01-08-2011, 07:05 PM
Had an Arctic Cat Panther 303 rotary for a while. Was a blast when it ran. Darn seals kept blowing

Huh, I though it was penguins who blew the seals...

w3bny
01-10-2011, 11:54 AM
Huh, I though it was penguins who blew the seals...

Isnt there one about walruses and tupperware?

Anyhoo... Mrs. Bunneh has pretty decent hand warmers;)

W1GUH
01-10-2011, 12:12 PM
If they don;t have asbestos in the wick now they probably did at one time. JON-E's have been around for many decades



Modern snow machines are amazingly quiet. The old ones were loud. Did you ever drive one ? If not give it a try. It's an awesome ride.

Oh, I'm sure it's fun for anyone riding on one. To others.....well..... And, of course NOBODY ever takes a muffler off a quiet one to make it a LOUD one, right?

W5GA
01-10-2011, 12:26 PM
Dang !! That engine smokes almost as bad as my 1978 Peugeot moped. I take it is "2 cycle" , or at least the Wankel version of 2 cycle ?
Wankel's are by definition 2-stroke. Don't recall ever seeing one smoke in a Mazda unless the seals were dead, though.

w2amr
01-10-2011, 03:41 PM
Huh, I though it was penguins who blew the seals...Nah, thats just a little ice cream.

n2ize
01-10-2011, 06:55 PM
Wankel's are by definition 2-stroke. Don't recall ever seeing one smoke in a Mazda unless the seals were dead, though.

Well, my old 2 cycle moped smokes like a chimney but thats only when it hasn't been run for a long time and its burnin out old gas & oil and its a regular 2 cycle 50 cc piston engine. I agree, I never saw a wankel smoke like that unless the seals were toast. A friend of mine had a Wankel in an old Triumph Spitfire and that engine used to SCREAMMMMMM !!. It delivered a loit of power and acceleration. It. never smoked though.

K7SGJ
01-10-2011, 10:01 PM
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