Is this what ham radio has come to? [Archive]

WX7P

11-10-2010, 07:59 AM

"Chief Editor" :roll: -- get over yourselves.

Now hear this.. I'm the "Supreme Super-Dooper Commander In Charge Of Everything"

No kidding.

I know some of you guys like 'FE, but in my mind he's almost as big a bozo as the Zookster. Biased, and completely full of it.

W4GPL

11-10-2010, 08:13 AM

In fairness, I have no opinion. But "Chief Editor" pretty much puts me in the default assumption that he's a douche. :lol:

KE7DKN

11-10-2010, 08:14 AM

"Chief Editor" :roll: -- get over yourselves.

Now here this.. I'm the "Supreme Super-Dooper Commander In Charge Of Everything"

How else are they going to differentiate between different degrees of boot-licking?

Anyway, it would've been fun to sabotage the contest.

W4GPL

11-10-2010, 08:20 AM

Anyway, it would've been fun to sabotage the contest.In my opinion, it's more fun to just roll your eyes and ignore their silly existence. But to each their own. :) I rarely comment in QRZ issues, but every once in awhile I just have to laugh out loud.

KE7DKN

11-10-2010, 08:36 AM

In my opinion, it's more fun to just roll your eyes and ignore their silly existence. But to each their own. :) I rarely comment in QRZ issues, but every once in awhile I just have to laugh out loud.

Normally, that's all their antics are good for. It's just that the thought of a persona non grata being at the top of the list brings a smile to my face. Only one person can be "first."

If we have more than one member who complete it on the same day, we will award each of them for being
First To Earn 100 QRZ Contacts.
wut?

N2CHX

11-10-2010, 09:12 AM

Woohoo, some people shoot for really high aspirations.

K7SGJ

11-10-2010, 09:18 AM

Woohoo, some people shoot for really high aspirations.

Aspirations Isn't that "butt sweat"?

W3WN

11-10-2010, 09:46 AM

9 band DXCC achieved on each mode: SSB, CW, digital. < snip >
4 bands (10 15 20 30) and 2 modes (CW SSB) confirmed & turned in to Newington, with 40 pending.
80 & 17 confirmed and not turned in yet. 12 & 160 pending.

Digital and confirming single modes per single band... that will keep me busy DX'ing for a long time. (Except 30 meters, I don't think you can work 100 entities on Phone on 30 yet... and yes, I know some countries permit it)

W3WN

11-10-2010, 09:48 AM

How else are they going to differentiate between different degrees of boot-licking?

Anyway, it would've been fun to sabotage the contest.
Nah. Why sink to their level?

IMHO, the QRZ-100 equates to the eQSL DX 100. Wannabe awards. Who cares?

N8YX

11-10-2010, 10:04 AM

IMHO, the QRZ-100 equates to the eQSL DX 100.
Wheel, v2.0

N2CHX

11-10-2010, 10:16 AM

Aspirations Isn't that "butt sweat"?

In this case, I think so.

KJ3N

11-10-2010, 10:36 AM

IMHO, the QRZ-100 equates to the eQSL DX 100. Wannabe awards. Who cares?

I care only slightly. AFAIK, you can't get a DXCC certificate from the ARRL if you're not a member, so I'll stick with eQSL.

KE7DKN

11-10-2010, 10:54 AM

Nah. Why sink to their level?

You give them too much credit.

But the answer to your question is: for teh lulz.

WX7P

11-10-2010, 11:06 AM

I care only slightly. AFAIK, you can't get a DXCC certificate from the ARRL if you're not a member, so I'll stick with eQSL.

One of the few times I disagree with you, Jim, but I think virtual QSL's are BS, and I don't mind paying the League to verify my paper qsl cards. Virtual QSL's are too easy to fake.

Besides that, being in Delaware, you should have no problem with getting the paper documentation.

KJ3N

11-10-2010, 11:49 AM

One of the few times I disagree with you, Jim, but I think virtual QSL's are BS, and I don't mind paying the League to verify my paper qsl cards. Virtual QSL's are too easy to fake.

So are paper cards. It only takes 2 people, one on each end, to fake a paper card as well. The system is only as honest as the people involved. eQSL can only be "faked" if both parties agree to it. LoTW can be done in a similar fashion. I've gotten a few eQSLs that are not valid and I simply reject them. "Problem" solved. :bfd:

Besides that, being in Delaware, you should have no problem with getting the paper documentation.

What makes you think I don't have the documentation already? ;)

WAS is a similar situation. I've got stacks of QSL cards (one for 160m, one for 75m, and one for 40m) from nearly all the lower 48, and I know I've worked AK and HI on both 75m and 40m multiple times.

Documentation isn't the issue; being able to get the ARRL certs without being a member is. I've never joined and I have no intention of ever doing so. :hand:

kd8dey

11-10-2010, 12:59 PM

Get an effin life people.

http://forums.qrz.com/showpost.php?p=2032889&postcount=5

Next thing you know they will be selling books, study guides, official wear and lobbying congress.
Sounds kinda familiar....

PA5COR

11-10-2010, 02:10 PM

I don't do awards or certificcates, i KNOW who i worked.
No need to show off.

NQ6U

11-10-2010, 02:16 PM

I don't do awards or certificcates, i KNOW who i worked.
No need to show off.

Same here, Cor. I'm just a casual DXer; as long as I know which countries I worked, that's fine. I do have a logbook after all.

KJ3N

11-10-2010, 02:23 PM

I don't do awards or certificcates, i KNOW who i worked.
No need to show off.

I feel the same, that's why I don't bother to keep a log in the first place.

W3WN

11-10-2010, 03:19 PM

I care only slightly. AFAIK, you can't get a DXCC certificate from the ARRL if you're not a member, so I'll stick with eQSL.

For us statesiders, yes that is true. And one thing I disagree with. If it were up to me, I'd let anyone apply for the award... but at a discount for League members (as an incentive to join, but that issue is a different subject)

But you know what? If you have the cards to show you've worked DXCC (any flavor) or WAS (ditto) or VUCC (ditto), that's the important thing. The wallpaper is nice, but not having it doesn't dim the accomplishment.

N2NH

11-10-2010, 04:42 PM

This is assuming that Hams on the web even have radios. Can't QSL if they don't have HF and right now HF is pretty messed up anyhow.

kb2vxa

11-10-2010, 05:01 PM

"This is a challenging contest and no one has earned it yet. You could still be the first."
Yeah, maybe I should be first to send them a box of 100 stinking logs just to make a point.

n6hcm

11-10-2010, 05:28 PM

Meh, just another sign of self glorification and wanted self importance.

they sure are big on the honorifics over there. it's kinda like a royal family, but with less tacky jewelry.

W4RLR

11-10-2010, 05:32 PM

How else are they going to differentiate between different degrees of ASS-licking?

Anyway, it would've been fun to sabotage the contest. Fixed it for ya!

NQ6U

11-10-2010, 05:34 PM

they sure are big on the honorifics over there. it's kinda like a royal family, but with less tacky jewelry.

But, apparently just as much inbreeding.

n2ize

11-10-2010, 10:08 PM

Get an effin life people.

http://forums.qrz.com/showpost.php?p=2032889&postcount=5

Hey George, why not be the first ?? LOL

WØTKX

11-10-2010, 10:13 PM

How about a dancing hamster in a grass skirt for
the first who works 25 Islander Vermin? :mrgreen:

kd8dey

11-10-2010, 10:38 PM

How about a dancing hamster in a grass skirt for
the first who works 25 Islander Vermin? :mrgreen:

Live or Bobblehead?

KJ3N

11-10-2010, 11:39 PM

But you know what? If you have the cards to show you've worked DXCC (any flavor) or WAS (ditto) or VUCC (ditto), that's the important thing. The wallpaper is nice, but not having it doesn't dim the accomplishment.

Even if I didn't have the cards, I wouldn't care. Like COR, I know what I've worked and what I haven't. Not having the wallpaper isn't going to make or break my day / week / year / life.

For demonstration purposes, I leave you with the following sample of 75m phone cards:

KJ3N

11-10-2010, 11:40 PM

..... and right now HF is pretty messed up anyhow.

Say what? :wtf: What's messed up about HF?

Four minutes after CQWW phone ended, I had a short QSO with EA3JE on 75m phone using 100 watts. I even picked up a SWL card this morning at the post office from a guy in Germany who heard the QSO. The guy gave me a 5/8 report and stuffed $2 in the envelope for the return card.

You don't see that every day.

W3WN

11-11-2010, 12:01 AM

Even if I didn't have the cards, I wouldn't care. Like COR, I know what I've worked and what I haven't. Not having the wallpaper isn't going to make or break my day / week / year / life.

For demonstration purposes, I leave you with the following sample of 75m phone cards:
Oh sure. Tease everyone with the easy stuff.

AH3D. 80 CW. 100 W. Vertical. In a huge pileup. Barefoot. Uphill. In the snow. Both ways.

WØTKX

11-11-2010, 12:04 AM

It's just fun to poke at the ionosphere, and see what the heck is gonna happen.
A huge part of radio for me is SWL'ing, and not just hamsters.

KJ3N

11-11-2010, 12:24 AM

Oh sure. Tease everyone with the easy stuff.

AH3D. 80 CW. 100 W. Vertical. In a huge pileup. Barefoot. Uphill. In the snow. Both ways.

:rofl:

Would this be a better qualifier?

QSO: 3500 PH 2010-03-07 1108 KS3D 59 DE KH6LC 59 (100 watts)

NQ6U

11-11-2010, 02:09 AM

It's just fun to poke at the ionosphere, and see what the heck is gonna happen.

I agree. For instance, tonight I had less than 45 minutes of air time so I couldn't work very many QSOs but every one I did work was outside the USA: Venezuela, Asiatic Russia and far-off, exotic Canada. 40m was pretty lively.

KC2UGV

11-11-2010, 08:41 AM

How about a dancing hamster in a grass skirt for
the first who works 25 Islander Vermin? :mrgreen:

You know. I was kicking around the idea of not a contest, but a ham island QSO party...

NQ6U

11-11-2010, 11:41 AM

I still like the idea of doing an operating event at Gnat's Landing (http://www.gnatslanding.com/).

PA5COR

11-11-2010, 11:51 AM

From one gnat to the other gnats ;)

NQ6U

11-11-2010, 12:22 PM

Plus, it's on an IOTA island. What could be more perfect for us Islanders?

w2amr

11-11-2010, 05:19 PM

How about a dancing hamster in a grass skirt for
the first who works 25 Islander Vermin? :mrgreen:You just hit on something Dave, An island WAV award.
3545

W3WN

11-11-2010, 11:38 PM

:rofl:

Would this be a better qualifier?

QSO: 3500 PH 2010-03-07 1108 KS3D 59 DE KH6LC 59 (100 watts)
Nope.

KJ3N

11-11-2010, 11:58 PM

Nope.

How about XW1IC in 2003 on 15m phone @ 100 watts? ;)

W3WN

11-12-2010, 06:31 PM

How about XW1IC in 2003 on 15m phone @ 100 watts? ;)
On 15? Nah.

Besides, I'll see your XW1IC and raise you XW0X on 10 SSB in 2002. Also at 100 W to a vertical.

kf0rt

11-12-2010, 07:08 PM

KJ3N

11-12-2010, 07:36 PM

Friggin' noobs....

Try this:

VR6TC (Pitcairn), 10/29/1974, 15 meters SSB, 4-400 homebrew kilowatt to a TH6

Disqualified. If you didn't do it with wire and 100 watts, I'm not impressed. Running a KW and a TH6 is shooting fish in a barrel. :hand:

XV5AC (Saigon during the war), 7/7/1972, 20 meters CW, 100 watts and a vertical

Borderline. Ya get credit for the 100 watts, but points deducted for being 1500+ miles closer to the target than the East Coast and using CW as opposed to phone. ;)

JD1ACH (Ogasawara), 3/14/1972, 10 meters SSB; fhuck, I didn't even HAVE an antenna in 1972.

Do it from the East Coast and I'll be impressed. ;)

All on a Galaxy V toob rig and confirmed on paper.

Man, this sounds like a fun hobby. I really need to get back into it. ;)

No time like the present. :yes:

kf0rt

11-12-2010, 08:52 PM

Disqualified. If you didn't do it with wire and 100 watts, I'm not impressed. Running a KW and a TH6 is shooting fish in a barrel. :hand:

Actually... not sure what I was running. It was a hard contact and I've got the card with the Pitcairn Island stamps and a note from Tom. Need to scan that, just cuz it's cool.

Borderline. Ya get credit for the 100 watts, but points deducted for being 1500+ miles closer to the target than the East Coast and using CW as opposed to phone. ;)

Oh, you want the Euro stuff, eh? Can do, but not right now.

More recent...

Well, shit... Worked a couple of NZ'ers 2-3 years ago on 40 CW from a cabin in South Dakota on a longwire tuned with a Palstar. 35 watts using an IC-7000.

Yeah, need to get back into it.

W3WN

11-12-2010, 10:51 PM

Friggin' noobs....

Try this:

VR6TC (Pitcairn), 10/29/1974, 15 meters SSB, 4-400 homebrew kilowatt to a TH6
XV5AC (Saigon during the war), 7/7/1972, 20 meters CW, 100 watts and a vertical
JD1ACH (Ogasawara), 3/14/1972, 10 meters SSB; fhuck, I didn't even HAVE an antenna in 1972.

All on a Galaxy V toob rig and confirmed on paper.

Man, this sounds like a fun hobby. I really need to get back into it. ;)
In 1972-4, doing it with a Galaxy V was no big deal. Now if you did that TODAY with a Galaxy V, I'd be a little more impressed.

But using a kW and a TH6? Hah! Crutches! I've got several VR6's on 15 SSB, but all 100 W to the vertical. And a 3W, for that matter. AND, I'll see your Galaxy V & raise you a Hallicrafters HT-37 & Heath SB-301 combo.

C'mon, you can do better than THAT!

W3WN

11-12-2010, 10:55 PM

All kidding aside, I really do miss that HT-37, as big and heavy and hot as that sucker was. Best DX I ever had with it was on 10 SSB one afternoon... I had just wrapped up a QSO with a KP4 when the DX called me -- 5W1DM (and yes, I have the card!). At the time, the rig was putting out about 75 - 80 watts... and the antenna was about 60 - 70 feet of #26 copper enamel wire being fed with a Dentron Jr. Tuner.

(And I still have the spool of wire. The tuner got loaned out & never returned, but I did finally replace it with another one)

Now, THAT's impressive!

KØWVM

11-13-2010, 07:36 PM

No kidding.

I know some of you guys like 'FE, but in my mind he's almost as big a bozo as the Zookster. Biased, and completely full of it.

Yup and FE has deleted/locked a couple of my threads. They weren't anywhere near what stuff has been on there from other posters. I don't particularly care for him.