QRZ Police

[koØm]

I wondered just how long my CB Post would go un noticed?

http://forums.qrz.com/showpost.php?p=2062724&postcount=1

I guess somebody pissed in his "Ochocincos" today

http://forums.qrz.com/showpost.php?p=2064415&postcount=17

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[koØm]

Ochocincos

3386

[N8YX]

Haters gonna hate.

Now head over to VanityHQ and have some fun with your antagonist's call.

[ki4itv]

Damn...almost forgot what it was like to post over there.

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

My call can be traced all the way back to 1982, and it was a Novice.
Prior to that, , to 1978, again, Novice, but that expired after one year, I checked.
So there was a gap from 1979 to 1982 that I forgot about.

[W3WN]

Ochocincos

3386Call the toll-free number on the box, lately? Brings a whole new meaning to Ocho Cinco's.

[WX7P]

Hello.

My call can be traced all the way back to 1982, and it was a Novice.
Prior to that, , to 1978, again, Novice, but that expired after one year, I checked.
So there was a gap from 1979 to 1982 that I forgot about.

If you had a novice call that expired in 1978, it wasn't KN5PIU. Do you remember the old callsign? Otherwise, without scanning a callbook, you'd have no way of checking. Your current call was issued in 1982. I checked and cross checked it. Vanity hq doesn't cover expired callsigns before 1981.

[w3bny]

speaking of...trying to find history of my call. Sofar...nada. Just looking in wrong place maybe.

[WX7P]

speaking of...trying to find history of my call. Sofar...nada. Just looking in wrong place maybe.

My 1965 callbook has W3BNY listed as

Walter J. Parker
210 Wiltshire Dr.
Chalfont, PA.

I'll go dig out the older books to see if he's in there...

[WX7P]

Ren:

I think I figured out that Mr. Parker was licensed probably in 1949 or early 1950, as he doesn't show in my 1948 callbook, but W3BNU does. W3BNY shows in my 1955 callbook.

It appears the license became inactive sometime in the 70's. He's not in my 1979 callbook and I don't have one between 1969 (he's in) and 1979 (he's not).

W3BNY might have been issued pre-1940, but I don't have the resources to check.

I did check SSDI. I think Mr. Parker probably died either in 1990 (more likely) or 1997.

[KA5PIU]

If you had a novice call that expired in 1978, it wasn't KN5PIU. Do you remember the old callsign? Otherwise, without scanning a callbook, you'd have no way of checking. Your current call was issued in 1982. I checked and cross checked it. Vanity hq doesn't cover expired callsigns before 1981.

Hello.

The KN5PIU was 1981/2ish, but even that I am not sure of.
I am trying to recall the 77/78 call but do recall that it was not KN5PIU/KA5PIU.
Odd as this must sound, Texas license records do show a Radio Operator plate that was issued as KN5PIU but I never picked up.
Perhaps my call had changed but I do remember some sort of snafu involved with the FCC.
And yes, I can not trace past 1981 myself and without something with the old call I can go no further.
But the point being, there ARE 25 year Novice class operators out there.
What had happened was that there was, and still is, a lot of bigotry in Texas.
My entire reason for getting involved with AR was to speak to people from other cultures, something that the hams at the time were not very good for.
So I dashed down to Mexico and got my ticket there.
As a matter of policy I keep the 2 calls very far apart.
At one time I was in Tanners Electronics in Dallas Texas when I was asked if I had a Mexican callsign to go with "The Fucking wetback".
That was the very last time I took anyone there!
I very much do not like the Texas redneck mentality and avoid the rodeo and ranch like the plague!

[VE7DCW]

Rudy ..... i'm trying to figure why you named this thread "QRZ police"...as well as basically trying once again to understand WTF you're trying to explain here! ....no offence.. :wtf:

73

[NQ6U]

Rudy ..... i'm trying to figure why you named this thread "QRZ police"...as well as basically trying once again to understand WTF you're trying to explain here! ....no offence.. :wtf:

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[n2ize]

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[NQ6U]

Zombie pills.

Pretty much, yep.

[KC9ECI]

Damn...almost forgot what it was like to post over there.

Just beat yourself in the head with a brick for a quick reminder. I wouldn't feel like a real ham radio operator if every time I said something, some near dead didn't jump up out of their casket and tell me I was wrong and then explained to me how they did it back in the day using nothing more than stone knives and bear claws.

[n2ize]

Pretty much, yep.

Friend of mine's sister had some psychological "issues". They put her on Haldol. She would literally sit in one spot like a zombie... it was scary. Eventually it started making her act weirder and weirder. The family wouldn't go to sleep at night unless someone stayed up to keep an eye on her. She had a tendency to like to roam the house at night lighting papers on fire that she thought carried evil messages. Eventually they put her on some new drug and she started acting pretty normal. I think she was even able to get a job and do at least a few normal things.

[NQ6U]

Friend of mine's sister had some psychological "issues". They put her on Haldol. She would literally sit in one spot like a zombie... it was scary. Eventually it started making her act weirder and weirder. The family wouldn't go to sleep at night unless someone stayed up to keep an eye on her. She had a tendency to like to roam the house at night lighting papers on fire that she thought carried evil messages. Eventually they put her on some new drug and she started acting pretty normal.

Haldol used to be be the drug of choice for treatment of schizophrenia, "treatment" in this case meaning putting them in a state where they're not going to cause harm to themselves or others or bother the hospital staff unduly.

"Warehousing" might have been a better choice of words, actually.

They still use the stuff as an anti-psychotic although I think they've lowered the typical dosage considerably.

[kb2vxa]

I think "stone knives and bear skins" was the phrase Spock used.

[KC9ECI]

I think "stone knives and bear skins" was the phrase Spock used.

I think it was too. Can I claim I didn't want to plagiarize?

[kb2vxa]

Go your way and sin no more.

[KA5PIU]

Rudy ..... i'm trying to figure why you named this thread "QRZ police"...as well as basically trying once again to understand WTF you're trying to explain here! ....no offence.. :wtf:

73

Hello.

I did not start the thread and as such did not name it.
QRZ police is a response to the original thread on page one.

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

KN5PIU, 10/06/1981.
KA5PIU, 10/05/1982.
Prior to that I held DK callsign and was allowed to operate under reciprocity.
I also held, and currently hold, an XE callsign.
The US linked callsign is WRN7425, an NTIA callsign.
This is in conjunction with the security forces and is not part of Amateur Radio inclusive but is permitted on Amateur Radio frequencies as a matter of policy.
Found all of the documents in Mexican archives.

[X-Rated]

Hello.

KN5PIU, 10/06/1981.
KA5PIU, 10/05/1982.
Prior to that I held DK callsign and was allowed to operate under reciprocity.
I also held, and currently hold, an XE callsign.
The US linked callsign is WRN7425, an NTIA callsign.
This is in conjunction with the security forces and is not part of Amateur Radio inclusive but is permitted on Amateur Radio frequencies as a matter of policy.
Found all of the documents in Mexican archives.

Why were you issued a KN5 callsign in 1981? I don't remember any KN5 callsigns being issued in 1981.

[WØTKX]

What's the XE callsign? We'll look it up and find yer secret taco stash. :mrgreen:

[N8YX]

Why were you issued a KN5 callsign in 1981? I don't remember any KN5 callsigns being issued in 1981.
I have a Call Book from those days floating around somewhere...

[WV6Z]

1981? Geez, my expired call signs then were KLO-4937 and KAGH-1220........ both of which had been replaced by the ermmmm, illegal call sign WJ2903.

[WV6Z]

Ha haaaa!!!! Awesomeness..... dig it....... http://forums.hamisland.net/archive/index.php/t-237.html

[N2CHX]

Ha haaaa!!!! Awesomeness..... dig it....... http://forums.hamisland.net/archive/index.php/t-237.html

What the fuck was that?

[ki4itv]

That was the original island... sure wish SY would drop by a give us a HAW! or two.

[W3WN]

< snip >
KN5PIU, 10/06/1981.
KA5PIU, 10/05/1982.
Prior to that I held DK callsign and was allowed to operate under reciprocity.
< snip >Oh? Really? Considering that in 1981, the current call sign assignment system was in place... and had been since March 1978, we're only talking 3 years... and at that time, NO requests for non-sequential or vanity calls were being considered... that is simply not possible. There is NO possible way that you were issued KN5PIU sequentially in 1981; Novice calls were still in the KA5 Group D block.

KN5 2x3 Novice calls were last issued sequentially in the late 1950's and early 1960's, after the initial run of WN5 2x3 calls were run through. And those who upgraded simply dropped the "N".

AE7Q's web site shows 1988-12-31 as the earliest issue date for KA5PIU, which tends to fit the sequential pattern. No sign whatsoever of KN5PIU.

Sorry, ku goniff, but I'm going to call a foul on this one.

Very, very few individuals, between March 1978 and the beginning of the Vanity program we have today, held old KN and WN 2x3 ex-Novice calls. The number was around 78, IIRC. You can take three guesses as to why I know this, and why I checked into this. And the first two don't count.

Further, if you were a US citizen, you could not legally operate in the US under reciprocity. Part 97 was and is quite clear on this. A US citizen MUST hold a US license to operate on US soil, regardless of what other license said citizen may hold in another country.

[WV6Z]

That was the original island... sure wish SY would drop by a give us a HAW! or two.

Yep, those were the good ol' daze...........

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

And the last line has the answer.
Remember, I was not in the US prior to about 1969, and was in the US for a very short period of time.
When I returned in the mid 70's I had not applied for US citizenship, even though I was born of a US citizen.
I was born in Germany and have never taken the loyalty oath of a US citizen or renounced a foreign citizenship.
My DD-214 states German National.
Since I was adopted there was a bit of a problem in finding the original birth documents, but once found, and the report of an American citizen born abroad, I had that recorded and took the original name, and took the German documents to Spain.
From Spain I was approved as a citizen and from there went to Mexico where I am a national.
I am not a US Citizen, I am a US National, I can not vote.

[NQ6U]

I can not vote.

Hey, maybe there is a just and merciful God after all...

[W3WN]

Hello.

And the last line has the answer.
Remember, I was not in the US prior to about 1969, and was in the US for a very short period of time.
When I returned in the mid 70's I had not applied for US citizenship, even though I was born of a US citizen.
I was born in Germany and have never taken the loyalty oath of a US citizen or renounced a foreign citizenship.
My DD-214 states German National.
Since I was adopted there was a bit of a problem in finding the original birth documents, but once found, and the report of an American citizen born abroad, I had that recorded and took the original name, and took the German documents to Spain.
From Spain I was approved as a citizen and from there went to Mexico where I am a national.
I am not a US Citizen, I am a US National, I can not vote.
Ku goniff, sometimes you make my head ache.

No, I didn't know that you were adopted, nor the circumstances of your birth. So now you're a German Spanish Mexican Arabian? Whatever.

So, if you're not a citizen, then yes, you could have operated under reciprocity. That fact makes all the difference in that.

Even so, if you were not in the US prior to "about 1969" then it is not possible for the FCC to have ever issued you any KN5 call.

[W3WN]

Hey, maybe there is a just and merciful God after all...What more proof do you need? :evil:

[X-Rated]

That was the original island... sure wish SY would drop by a give us a HAW! or two.

I have been keeping in touch with old Steve. He has been busy playing saxophone at ritzy hotels and even for the Donald's New Years bash and stuff one year. He posts over on Facebook.

[N2NH]

Hello.

KN5PIU, 10/06/1981.
KA5PIU, 10/05/1982.
Prior to that I held DK callsign and was allowed to operate under reciprocity.
I also held, and currently hold, an XE callsign.
The US linked callsign is WRN7425, an NTIA callsign.
This is in conjunction with the security forces and is not part of Amateur Radio inclusive but is permitted on Amateur Radio frequencies as a matter of policy.
Found all of the documents in Mexican archives.


Hello.

My old plurality maritime call was WRN7425.
For limited Meritime Coast and limited Aviation Ground there is no longer a license requirement.
This is now called a marine utility station, and as long as it is used only in direct support of a boat or aircraft, that is to say, arrangements for fuel or tie-downs, docking, water landings, etc, there is no issue.
Me, I, and Co.

I thought that call looked familiar. Seems to be a multi-purpose call. (http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?126181-Marine-VHF/page13)

Interesting thing about NTIA. Didn't know that they were using the expertise of Marine Stations to make policy advisements. (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/)

The things you learn, and not about radio.