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N2NH
10-03-2010, 04:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU

kd8dey
10-03-2010, 05:00 PM
Hmmmm, They recall a brand of bullet that doesn't expand properly,BUT wasn't a brand (Black Talon?) taken off the market for being too good? something about being able to penetrate police vests and expand into virtually a spinning razor blade?......
They just can't seem to get it right from one extreme to the other.......

n2ize
10-03-2010, 05:15 PM
Yes ! :-D:mrgreen::-D:-D:shifty:

kf0rt
10-03-2010, 05:18 PM
Hmmmm, They recall a brand of bullet that doesn't expand properly,BUT wasn't a brand (Black Talon?) taken off the market for being too good? something about being able to penetrate police vests and expand into virtually a spinning razor blade?......
They just can't seem to get it right from one extreme to the other.......

I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.

PA5COR
10-03-2010, 05:34 PM
We can buy the talon bullets here, no need for it actually..
Still have 4000 Winchester silvertips for the Desert Eagle/S&W 686.
And a few 1000 full metal jacket flat point in .357 M.
Lead bullets i pour myself here for the M1 Carbine, hard letter lead also for the S&W revolver.

Our paper targets don't shoot back, annoyingly....;)

kf0rt
10-03-2010, 05:40 PM
Wiki to the rescue --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon


Winchester voluntarily pulled the ammunition from the market completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold today by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, the running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing”.

W3MIV
10-03-2010, 05:57 PM
I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.

Wish I could help, but I am ignorant of most of those types of loads. Hardball .45ACP, 185 Nosler JHP target and 200 lead SWC target loads are about all I would shoot for target, and my personal preference for a defensive handgun has always been a revolver -- I favor the 2.5" Colt Diamondback in .38 S&W Special, either 158 RN lead or a frangible HP for use indoors.

Nowadays I shoot the .22 rimfire almost exclusively in outdoor bullseye competition.

n2ize
10-03-2010, 06:12 PM
I agree with the video. When you shoot to kill you want a bullet that has some true killing power.

kc7jty
10-03-2010, 07:07 PM
I remember the Black Talons. As I recall, they weren't taken off the market, but were "reserved" for enforcement folks. Police could buy them, but you or I couldn't. Fred or Albi will probably better recall the history.

I have an unopened box of 9mm Black Talon.

KA5PIU
10-03-2010, 07:35 PM
Hello.

What you do is buy a package of hollow point rounds (bullets) and a package of cleats (spikes) for running shoes as well as the correct size and thread tap.
Thread the bullets and screw the cleats in.
Fire this at something.
The bullet proper provides the mass needed to punch that small piece of steel through a lot of stuff.
Try is, it costs so little to produce a dozen or so rounds.

kc7jty
10-03-2010, 09:10 PM
A new shipment must have made town?...

n2ize
10-03-2010, 10:02 PM
Of course you all know this video is satire.

kd8dey
10-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Of course you all know this video is satire.

Onion News Network? nawww :)

KA5PIU
10-04-2010, 04:55 AM
Hello

The Onion is not a reliable news source? and here I had them up there with Fox!

kf0rt
10-04-2010, 06:45 AM
Of course you all know this video is satire.

Oh hell... If I'd known that was an Onion clip, I would have actually played it.

PA5COR
10-04-2010, 07:57 AM
Always fun Onion :D

N8YX
10-04-2010, 09:35 AM
If you have some thin tungsten rod, a box of Hornady XTP bullets in your favorite caliber, a swaging press and a rotary tumbler that's suitable for use as a bullet coater, you too can make your own Talons.

Or you can drive a pointed, solid copper slug at a velocity that's fast enough to ensure penetration through any Kevlar vest. Think 460 Rowland conversions for a 1911 platform, or a Wildey in either 45 Win Mag or 44 Auto Mag.

Reactive body armor is a totally different animal and calls for a well-placed headshot.

W7XF
10-05-2010, 01:57 PM
Onion News Network is more fair and balanced than Faux Noize.....:yes: