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KA5PIU
10-02-2010, 01:52 AM
Hello.

The Supreme Court of the US has decided to let stand a ruling by refusing to hear any appeals.
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3298f02601e7449597e05 df23b6e897f
This ruling opens the way for the public a large to sue a police officer irrespective of any state immunity.
Bottom line is that a cop is using deadly force when he uses a TASER and thus the same protections to the use of any firearms apply.

kc7jty
10-02-2010, 03:44 AM
Gunna be a lotta sad doughnut eating pork rolls over this one.

http://www.phoodie.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/elgPv81U16ykWNRmOc10_original1.jpg

WØTKX
10-02-2010, 04:58 AM
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1003/bacon-flavored-donut-bacon-donut-demotivational-poster-1269710088.jpg

kc7jty
10-02-2010, 12:46 PM
Oh WOW! Extra crunchy on artificial maple flavor, my favorite.

NQ6U
10-02-2010, 12:59 PM
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1003/bacon-flavored-donut-bacon-donut-demotivational-poster-1269710088.jpg

Never would have taken you for a health food nut, Dave.

KG4CGC
10-02-2010, 03:24 PM
I can only imagine the cases that have never hit the news or internet. Then consider all the college dorm parties and frat houses that use tasers as a form of entertainment. Young guys who claim to have built up a tolerance for getting zapped.

NQ6U
10-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Furkin' Coronado cop--it figures. Those guys are a bunch of loose cannons to begin with. It was an off-duty Coronado cop who shot Chargers linebacker Scott Foley (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212025,00.html) and ended his career.




(Furkin' was a typo, but I liked it so much I left it in.)

n2ize
10-02-2010, 05:37 PM
:lol::lol:
I can only imagine the cases that have never hit the news or internet. Then consider all the college dorm parties and frat houses that use tasers as a form of entertainment. Young guys who claim to have built up a tolerance for getting zapped.

If they think they are immune to being zapped they are welcome to put one hand on the B+ final plate supply of my Globe King 500 power supply and the other hand on the chassis ground while it is energized.... LOL. Of course after signing a disclaimer waiving me of any responsibility. :evil::lol::lol:

n2ize
10-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Getting back to the OP s point I think it is about time they take some serious steps to address the misuse/overuse of the taser. It seems these days they TASER is the first line of action. Everybody is being TASED from 4 year old kids to 96 year old grandma's over petty BS. Maybe it is time to take the tasers away.

KA5PIU
10-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Getting back to the OP s point I think it is about time they take some serious steps to address the misuse/overuse of the taser. It seems these days they TASER is the first line of action. Everybody is being TASED from 4 year old kids to 96 year old grandma's over petty BS. Maybe it is time to take the tasers away.

Hello.

That may be just what has happened.

w3bny
10-04-2010, 12:37 PM
Getting back to the OP s point I think it is about time they take some serious steps to address the misuse/overuse of the taser. It seems these days they TASER is the first line of action. Everybody is being TASED from 4 year old kids to 96 year old grandma's over petty BS. Maybe it is time to take the tasers away.

Easy...just comply with the nice officers...or pork rolls...instructions and you wont get tazed or whopped up side the head with a mag lite etc.

NQ6U
10-04-2010, 12:42 PM
Easy...just comply with the nice officers...or pork rolls...instructions and you wont get tazed or whopped up side the head with a mag lite etc.

As long as you're white, anyway. All bets are off if you're black or hispanic as you are no doubt aware, Bunny.

w3bny
10-04-2010, 01:03 PM
As long as you're white, anyway. All bets are off if you're black or hispanic as you are no doubt aware, Bunny.

Thats why the first word out of my mouth is Sir and the second and third are Yes Sir. Act just like you were back in boot camp.

I dont as much as fart when I get stopped. I turn on the cab light and put my hands on the dash until told to do anything. But then again, Im not dressed in chinos, wearing a long sleeve flannel shirt buttoned just at the top and a wife beater or a hoodie when its like a million degrees Kelvin outside.

I may get arrested for 10 lbs of weed that I didnt have 10 seconds ago but it sure isnt going to because of "failure to obey" and me with my bowels all emptied etc.

KA5PIU
10-04-2010, 01:34 PM
Hello.

And that is the trouble, you might get stopped for 10 pounds of weed you did not have 10 seconds ago.
And dress has little to do with it, if you are a Mexican you are pretty much screwed, no matter what you say.
http://flexyourrights.org/

w2amr
10-04-2010, 01:48 PM
Furkin' Coronado cop--it figures. Those guys are a bunch of loose cannons to begin with. It was an off-duty Coronado cop who shot Chargers linebacker Scott Foley (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212025,00.html) and ended his career.




(Furkin' was a typo, but I liked it so much I left it in.)

The officer identified himself, authorities said, and warned Foley he was armed. He fired a warning shot, at which point Gaut steered the car at the officer, sheriff's officials said.
"The officer fired two rounds at the vehicle," sheriff's Lt. Dennis Brugos said. "The male then came at the officer and put his right hand by his waistband and the officer fired at him."

Foley was arrested April 21 on charges of resisting arrest after police said he scuffled with officers. He also was booked on charges of battery on a police officer and public drunkenness.

Loser. :disagree:

KA5PIU
10-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Hello.

It also says that "The district attorney's office said recently it was not pursuing charges against Foley in that incident."
Add to that "I heard a female scream, 'Let it go! No, no, no!' And then four more shots. I heard more screaming and then two more shots and in seconds the first marked officer showed up."
"Coronado police also declined to give any information about the off-duty officer."
So, lets look at the facts, shall we.
An OFF DUTY police officer in a Personal Vehicle decides to intercept a suspected drunk driver.
In Texas that alone is a felony, the cop is not allowed to make a traffic stop while off duty.
The Corona police department has even had a brush with FBI agents, where a Corona police officer who was not in uniform drew a weapon on a FBI agent, there were 2 and the other drew on the Corona police officer and called for assistance.
CHP showed up and one of that (CHP) departments officers said "It figures, Corona cops would point a gun at the president if given the chance".
Another made the comment of "Even guards are better trained".
Look up Corona Police and you will find this and more.
This was given to me just a while back.
http://www.californiapolicechiefs.org/nav_files/research/pdfs_policies/tattoo_policy_corona_pd.pdf
Yes, even the California cops are voicing concern,

w2amr
10-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Hello.

It also says that "The district attorney's office said recently it was not pursuing charges against Foley in that incident."
Add to that "I heard a female scream, 'Let it go! No, no, no!' And then four more shots. I heard more screaming and then two more shots and in seconds the first marked officer showed up."
"Coronado police also declined to give any information about the off-duty officer."
So, lets look at the facts, shall we.
An OFF DUTY police officer in a Personal Vehicle decides to intercept a suspected drunk driver.
In Texas that alone is a felony, the cop is not allowed to make a traffic stop while off duty.
The Corona police department has even had a brush with FBI agents, where a Corona police officer who was not in uniform drew a weapon on a FBI agent, there were 2 and the other drew on the Corona police officer and called for assistance.
CHP showed up and one of that (CHP) departments officers said "It figures, Corona cops would point a gun at the president if given the chance".
Another made the comment of "Even guards are better trained".
Look up Corona Police and you will find this and more.
This was given to me just a while back.
http://www.californiapolicechiefs.org/nav_files/research/pdfs_policies/tattoo_policy_corona_pd.pdf
Yes, even the California cops are voicing concern,


My mistake. Since there were no old ladies to help across the street, he was probaby just out selling girl scout cookies at 3 AM.

n2ize
10-04-2010, 02:23 PM
Thats why the first word out of my mouth is Sir and the second and third are Yes Sir. Act just like you were back in boot camp.

I dont as much as fart when I get stopped. I turn on the cab light and put my hands on the dash until told to do anything. But then again, Im not dressed in chinos, wearing a long sleeve flannel shirt buttoned just at the top and a wife beater or a hoodie when its like a million degrees Kelvin outside.

I may get arrested for 10 lbs of weed that I didnt have 10 seconds ago but it sure isnt going to because of "failure to obey" and me with my bowels all emptied etc.

The sad part is that we should have to carry such fears with us as we travel the highways and byways of our own homeland. In truth we are not much more free than the rest of the world. Perhaps less so in some regards.

NQ6U
10-04-2010, 02:26 PM
As Rudy mentioned (although he got the city wrong--it was Coronado, not Corona), this cop was off-duty, not in uniform and was driving his personal car. Under those circumstances, I'd be reluctant to comply with his orders myself, whether he told me he was a police officer or not. Once he started shooting I would assume he was a criminal or nut-job out to do me harm and would feel justified to take whatever measures were necessary to protect my wife and myself.

KA5PIU
10-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Hello.

Yes, I got a city mixed up, my bad.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202437310856
http://www.californiacriminallawyerblog.com/2008/07/san_diego_charger_steve_foley_1.html
The officer Did Not show his badge!
"According to the testimony, Mansker was a 23-year-old rookie when he followed Foley from downtown San Diego to Poway. The officer, who was wearing jeans and a white T-shirt and driving his own black Mazda, said he suspected that Foley was driving drunk.".
Is that enough detail?
So, we have an officer who was not even in his city when he decides to pull somebody over, in his own black mazda.