Talk about Southern Coke [Archive] - The Island Of Misfit Hams

W3WN

09-10-2010, 08:25 PM

(No, not the white powdery stuff...)

So Little Miss Field Day & I are at the supermarket last night, we're taking a look around for anything interesting, when I spot a display of old fashioned bottled Coca Cola and Fanta Orange. Haven't seen the green glass bottles in a long, long time.

Pick up a bottle to look at it... something looks strange... it's all in Spanish.

Mexican Coca Cola.

Now this may not be a big deal to you guys in the South and West (and even the SouthWest) but it's not something you see here in the Land of Taxes every day.

Bottle is complete with a stick-on label with bar code and nutrition information. Biggest difference? No high fructose corn syrup, this has real sugar in it! My gahd, it's the real original formula!

$1 for each 355 ml bottle ... that 16 ounces to us non metric types, so it's a bit more expensive than an equivalent can.

Had one with lunch today. Tastes a touch sweeter than "our" Coke, and the after bite isn't there, but otherwise, it's just what I expected.

I'll try and get a picture of it. LMFD has already confiscated the one empty for her collection (this goes well with baseball bobble heads? Sure), but I still have one more in the fridge...

KG4CGC

09-10-2010, 08:31 PM

We have that in the "boutique" drink section. I was just commenting on that yesterday to the YL while shopping.

NA4BH

09-10-2010, 08:35 PM

I have two 6oz Cokes from the '60s in my cabinet. They will never be opened. They are in the old bottles with the raised glass name and not painted. They still have fizz when shaken.

NQ6U

09-10-2010, 08:57 PM

Mexican Coke actually tastes better than the U.S. type because it's made with cane sugar instead of high-fructose corn syrup. I don't drink soda pop often but when I get my occasional craving, I go down to Gonzales Northgate Market and pick up a six.

al2n

09-10-2010, 09:21 PM

Have not seen the Coke, but we have real sugar Dr. Pepper available in some markets. Pepsi also has some real sugar available as well. They are marketing them under the "Throwback" ad gimmick.

W5RB

09-10-2010, 10:03 PM

http://www.metric-conversions.org/volume/milliliters-to-us-ounces.htm

KA5PIU

09-10-2010, 10:42 PM

Hello.

Correct, and both Dr Pepper and Pepsi are available from the domestic bottlers with real sugar.
This is both Kosher and Halal.
Coke is only out as a special run in the US.
http://consumerist.com/2010/03/kosher-coke-is-here-for-passover.html

KG4CGC

09-11-2010, 12:04 AM

I had one of those real cane sugar colas a few months ago. It did take me back almost 30 years.

N2NH

09-11-2010, 12:08 AM

I felt the same way about Pepsi Throwback and Dr Pepper Throwback. I forgot how good they used to taste.

http://www.scripophily.com/webcart/vigs/embotelladoramadrilenavig.jpghttp://i54.tinypic.com/2z40ktz.jpg

kd8dey

09-11-2010, 12:23 AM

You can find it a Krogers around here along with some of the "convenience" gas stations....

kc7jty

09-11-2010, 12:58 AM

Most of the Mexican restaurants (the ones the Mexicans go to) around here have a good selection of the imported "refrescos". I drank only them, and beer on my many trips to Mexico and don't really want any more, although one called Yoli (rather sweet though) was quite good. It's in the same vein as 7up.

W4RLR

09-11-2010, 01:37 AM

I was reading articles on WebMD last night during one of my bouts with insomnia. High fructose corn syrup can really play nasty tricks on your liver and add to insulin resistance. It's hard to avoid as they put HFCS in damn near everything now.

Maybe I should move abroad for my health...

As for drinking abroad, I was one of the few people in my unit who would go to the Turkish Air Base commissary for the local orange drink called Yedigun. It was a lot like Fanta orange, except that it had (I think) visible orange pulp in it. I'm still here, so it didn't seem to have any lasting detrimental effects.

KG4CGC

09-11-2010, 01:41 AM

Yes! Yes!
And they have been advertising HARD about how safe it is.

WØTKX

09-11-2010, 04:07 PM

http://www.retroplanet.com/mm5/graphics/Blog-Images/Moxie-Ted-Williams.jpg

kd8dey

09-11-2010, 05:47 PM

http://www.retroplanet.com/mm5/graphics/Blog-Images/Moxie-Ted-Williams.jpg

http://www.horsepissbeer.com/

n2ize

09-11-2010, 05:54 PM

And I thought this was going to be about ...coke-aine LOL

Yeah, I remember the coke in the bottles. vending machine at my old school used to dispense the small bottles, cold. Dinner at grandpa's in the South Bronx. They used to send me down to the bodega on the corner for a large glass bottle of coke, pepsi, and 7up. I'd always get a small bottle to take home. Crimped on tops, you needed an opener to get the top off. It tasted better then. More flavour, more fizz.

kf0rt

09-11-2010, 06:33 PM

Refined sugar (and HFCS) is pure evil. Addictive as crack cocaine, just doesn't take as long to kill. :yes:

NQ6U

09-11-2010, 06:55 PM

Barkeep, give me an Elsinore--and keep 'em coming, eh?

http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com/strange-brew.jpg

W1GUH

09-11-2010, 06:57 PM

I have two 6oz Cokes from the '60s in my cabinet. They will never be opened. They are in the old bottles with the raised glass name and not painted. They still have fizz when shaken.

What cities are on the bottom? Those are the real deal. What's the matter with Coke, anyway? All of the so-called "vintage" glass bottles aren't really. Sprite bottles had National Parks on the bottom.

All this talk of vintage soda. My favorite vintage soda (pop) machine was the one where you lifted the top, put in a nickel? dime? and ran a hanging bottle through a slot til you got it to the gate, then you pulled it up.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_SmvX8jycDXw/SBFVwFPiz9I/AAAAAAAAAD0/UJZl_5E0qXc/s400/Coke+machines+and+Faith+002.jpg

And, sigh, motels don't always have a bottle opener on the wall in the bathroom anymore.

kd8dey

09-11-2010, 07:02 PM

As far back as I can remember my dad, He always ran a pool hall. (front for his gambling habit). He had an antique Pepsi vending machine (small glass door) that had the old greenish coke bottles along with mountain dew (remember the hillbilly bottles) and a few other concoctions for a dime.....but then again maybe the coke was so old that the bottles naturally turned green :)

NQ6U

09-11-2010, 07:09 PM

My favorite vintage soda (pop) machine was the one where you lifted the top, put in a nickel? dime? and ran a hanging bottle through a slot til yo got the gate, then you pulled it up.

Those were the best--filled with ice-cold water which gave you the coldest possible drink.

kf0rt

09-11-2010, 07:25 PM

What cities are on the bottom? Those are the real deal. What's the matter with Coke, anyway? All of the so-called "vintage" glass bottles aren't really. Sprite bottles had National Parks on the bottom.

All this talk of vintage soda. My favorite vintage soda (pop) machine was the one where you lifted the top, put in a nickel? dime? and ran a hanging bottle through a slot til you got it to the gate, then you pulled it up.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_SmvX8jycDXw/SBFVwFPiz9I/AAAAAAAAAD0/UJZl_5E0qXc/s400/Coke+machines+and+Faith+002.jpg

And, sigh, motels don't always have a bottle opener on the wall in the bathroom anymore.

College buddy of mine had that exact machine in his parent's garage. The coin part was disabled, so you didn't have to put money in. It was always full of beer. :)

W1GUH

09-11-2010, 07:33 PM

College buddy of mine had that exact machine in his parent's garage. The coin part was disabled, so you didn't have to put money in. It was always full of beer. :)

Outstanding! There's a rehearsal studio (http://www.smashny.com/) here with a soda machine with beer in it to buy.

kf0rt

09-11-2010, 07:55 PM

Outstanding! There's a rehearsal studio (http://www.smashny.com/) here with a soda machine with beer in it to buy.

Man, the time we spent in that garage.... Fond memories. He also had another Coke machine in the garage -- it was the vertical "old style" bottle machine with the ramps and gates. Looked something like this:

http://www.barsandbooths.com/images/bandbv16.jpg

As I recall, that actually had Coke in it. 1975-76 or so; bottles were already pretty rare then for soda. Most soda was already sold in aluminum cans with the "new" attached pull tab that didn't contribute so much to roadside litter. Remember pull-tabs?

N2NH

09-11-2010, 08:12 PM

Here's the present counterpart to that: (http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/tools-toys/overengineering-the-soda-machine)

http://spectrum.ieee.org/image/1644964

The IEEE calls it "overengineered."

Then Japan had a better idea... the vending machine that stalks you... Vending Machine Red!

Buy me! Eat me! Drink me! You know you wanna!

http://i52.tinypic.com/2mra0k7.jpg

Here's my favorite. Used to be at a slot car place I went to in Midtown Manhattan. Had a lot of dents in it from rich kids sending their cars ballistic off of the high bank curve...

http://s8.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/6A91CBC6.jpg

NQ6U

09-11-2010, 09:04 PM

Here's the present counterpart to that:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/image/1644964

The IEEE calls it "overengineered."

It runs on WinCE. I'd call it a potential health hazard.

Then Japan had a better idea... the vending machine that stalks you... Vending Machine Red!

That would never fly in the U.S. Someone would shoot the damned thing. I know I would.

N2NH

09-11-2010, 09:22 PM

Then Japan had a better idea... the vending machine that stalks you... Vending Machine Red!

http://i52.tinypic.com/2mra0k7.jpg

That would never fly in the U.S. Someone would shoot the damned thing. I know I would.

They even did a video for the stalker vending machine. It sometimes amazes me how compliant and accepting Japanese society is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbbqWBgk8KI

Here's one where a woman buys a coke and reaches between it's... well, watch and it seems the slot to take the soda out is in a very odd place(2:02)... Talk about product placement!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoxfCihYcI

kc7jty

09-12-2010, 02:29 AM

Those were the best--filled with ice-cold water which gave you the coldest possible drink.

Beech when it didn't work though.

kc7jty

09-12-2010, 02:39 AM

I think a week or two in Japan would be a blast. I was at Multnomah Falls once when 2 bus loads of Japanese girls age early 20s packed the walkways at the place (they are a very petite people). They were 100% Japanese too. I didn't want to leave.
You could tell they weren't American just by looking at their faces.

Met a Japanese family at an arts fair here in Coeur d'Alene some years back. They had 2 mid teen boys. They were very amusing and outgoing. Nothing but the biggest smiles and attempts to communicate with hand gestures.

NQ6U

09-12-2010, 01:18 PM

I think a week or two in Japan would be a blast.

Yeah, I'm fascinated by the place. Any country that could come up with Iron Chef and wax nostalgic over the taste of fish innards is a country to be reckoned with.

W1GUH

09-12-2010, 05:26 PM

I remember hearing, someplace, sometime, of a place in Europe, I believe, where the machine just dispensed soda, no cup, bottle, or can. There was a "community" glass by it and the customers would actually use it for a drink, then wash it out and leave it for the next customer. Sounds unbelievable. Wish could remember where and when.

And drinks on ice? IMHO...the best bars have the beers on ice. Phooey on the refridgerators that NEVER get 'em cold enough. Ah.....a bottle of beer out of the ice chest on a hot, hot, HOT afternoon. Doesn't even matter what kind of beer or how old....beer on ice on a hot day is heaven!

Pull tabs: The easiest way to dispose of the detatcheable ones was to just drop 'em in the can. But there was a side effect -- I've heard "urban myth?" that people sometime swallowed 'em. OUCH!!!

kf0rt

09-12-2010, 06:04 PM

Pull tabs: The easiest way to dispose of the detatcheable ones was to just drop 'em in the can. But there was a side effect -- I've heard "urban myth?" that people sometime swallowed 'em. OUCH!!!

You would drop the pull tab in the can after the mice peed on it??

KA5PIU

09-13-2010, 07:14 AM

W1GUH

09-13-2010, 08:39 AM

Thanks! Yea, you jogged my memory about it being an eastern block thing.

n2ize

09-14-2010, 12:15 AM

Yeah, I'm fascinated by the place. Any country that could come up with Iron Chef and wax nostalgic over the taste of fish innards is a country to be reckoned with.

last place I would ever want to visit.

kf0rt

09-14-2010, 05:58 AM

The Japanese culture is "strict." I'd be real afraid of offending everyone I met.

W4GPL

09-14-2010, 06:12 AM

Any time you see a 2 liter Coke bottle with a yellow top, it's made with real sugar, not HFCS. But as already stated, just about any Hispanic shop/section has the real stuff..

KG4CGC

09-15-2010, 12:11 AM

Any time you see a 2 liter Coke bottle with a yellow top, it's made with real sugar, .
If I'm not mistaken, that would the Kosher Coke that is available seasonally. Year round in some areas.

ki4itv

09-15-2010, 04:08 PM

The Kosher Coke must be the first weeks run of product after machine cleaning and de-bugging by extermination.
How else could a cola be not kosher? I can't know at the moment.

kf0rt

09-15-2010, 04:10 PM

Wouldn't Kosher just mean "Rabbi approved" in this case?

W3WN

09-16-2010, 11:02 AM

Wouldn't Kosher just mean "Rabbi approved" in this case?

Pretty much. It would mean that a Rabbi who is trained in these things has certified that none of the dietary laws and rules (if any) that are applicable have been broken in the processing of the product.

It's not that big a deal, unless you're Orthodox.

NQ6U

09-16-2010, 11:20 AM

It's not that big a deal, unless you're Orthodox.

Okay, then: I'll take a ham & cheese sandwich with a bowl of the clam chowder, please.

KG4CGC

09-17-2010, 01:14 AM

Don't they have the symbol to indicate kosher somewhere on the yellow cap?
Is a chicken and egg matzoh biscuit OK? I would imagine veal stewed in milk is not.

KA5PIU

09-17-2010, 02:05 AM

Hello.

Yes and no.
http://www.kosher-directory.com/supervisions.htm
This is the list.
Meat and Dairy are not to comingle anywhere along the food chain.

N2NH

09-17-2010, 04:45 AM

Hello.

Yes and no.
http://www.kosher-directory.com/supervisions.htm
This is the list.
Meat and Dairy are not to comingle anywhere along the food chain.

So much for a Cheeseburger or Taco...

KA5PIU

09-17-2010, 10:12 AM

Hello.

Or most Pizza, or Chili Cheese Hotdog.
The list goes on.
But, I am not a Jew, I am a Muslim, so I can "Get away" with it. ;)
I hang with Mexicans, only a few of who understand Islam.
Most who do follow religion follow Catholic faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mexico
I grew up with, at first an Islamic household and later the somewhat irreverent Mexicans from Sinaloa.
Somewhere in between I had step parents, a pair of dopeheads who I all but ignored if I could.
I was and am afraid of "The white kids".
So my eating habits are very heavily Mexican.

K7SGJ

09-17-2010, 11:03 AM

W3WN

09-17-2010, 03:21 PM

Okay, then: I'll take a ham & cheese sandwich with a bowl of the clam chowder, please.

Take it wherever you want. Just don't expect to find it in my house.

W3WN

09-17-2010, 03:24 PM

So much for a Cheeseburger or Taco...

Oh, you can eat a chessburger. Just make sure it's a soy-based burger and you'll be just fine. Probably healthier for you than a meat burger anyway... and if she were still with us, you'd make Linda McCartney proud.

W3WN

09-17-2010, 03:26 PM

Nothing at all. But that's not the important part:
< snip >Somewhere in between I had step parents, a pair of dopeheads who I all but ignored if I could. < snip >

Now does that explain a hell of a lot or what?

N2NH

09-17-2010, 04:38 PM

Oh, you can eat a chessburger. Just make sure it's a soy-based burger and you'll be just fine. Probably healthier for you than a meat burger anyway... and if she were still with us, you'd make Linda McCartney proud.

Ah, one slight problem. I'm allergic to soy. I'll stick with the bull, broccoli and spuds thenk yew. I really liked Linda McCartney a lot. Loved her pix and still do. OTOH, a definite case of eat well, live right, die anyway. I'll enjoy the ride as much as possible and try not to pass up any fun stuff. Like a Cheeseburger, fries and a Malted Milk or Pizza with an Ice Cream soda. My jewish friends say I look jewish. I do get a lot of strange looks when I eat those non-approved foods... Then again, it might be because I also look Irish, British, Italian and German...

KA5PIU

09-17-2010, 05:35 PM

Just curious, what do white kids have to do with what you eat?

Hello.

Since I was (and am) afraid of the white kids I did not associate with them, they were not my peer group.
Therefore my eating style is that of Arab, where just about everything is a finger food, and Mexican, where just about everything is a finger food.
I love my culture, where everyone is related in one way or another.
It is not uncommon for 2 or 3 entire families to live in one house.