this one takes the cake

[kc7jty]

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[WX7P]

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Probably Sheriffs. They are poorly trained and kind of stupid in Marin.

[W5RB]

But shock therapy is good for depression , right ?

[kc7jty]

We're with the sheriff's dept. Let us take turns humping on your @ss or we'll taze you.
"Get the F outta my house".
BUZZZZZaap!

[kc7jty]

I think my assole neighbor is suicidal.....

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

Resisting?
Everything about this case is just wrong.

[suddenseer]

Dayum....Suicide by cop is getting popular in these parts. Don't have the guts to pull the trigger? Call 911, tell them you are armed, and won't come out. There will be officers at your door quickly. Don't come out until the SWAT team arrives. Run outside screaming. They will end your pain.

[W5RB]

Hello.

Resisting?
Everything about this case is just wrong.

Well......consider Ohm's Law. In theory , at least if he offered zero resistance , there'd be no current dissipated in him , and he wouldn't feel a thing .......right ?

[KA5PIU]

Well......consider Ohm's Law. In theory , at least if he offered zero resistance , there'd be no current dissipated in him , and he wouldn't feel a thing .......right ?

Hello..

The guy was sitting on the couch, doing nothing.
He gets up and gets zapped, and is being told to "Stop Resisting".
At no point did he present a threat or weapon and was in his home.
Perhaps I would have done things a bit different but disagree with what happened.

[N7YA]

YEEEEHAW!! Earl! I got to use mah taser!! Lets rifle through his house and see if theres anything we can steal before we file the paperwork.

....yes, cops do that too.

[WX7P]

YEEEEHAW!! Earl! I got to use mah taser!! Lets rifle through his house and see if theres anything we can steal before we file the paperwork.

....yes, cops do that too.

Yes, they do. I know of one Marin Sheriff who ripped off a $6000 ring from a non-breather during a call. Corrupt bastard got away with it.

[n2ize]

It doesn;t matter if he's in his own house or not. When the cops tell you to do something you shut up and DO IT !!!!!! He clearly advanced towards the officers in a threatening manner. Then after they tazed him he wouldn't stop resisting. he just simply refused to stop resisting.

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

How, exactly, do you stop resisting when you are getting the crap zapped out of you? remember that the whole point of the TASER is that it removes most muscle control.

[W4RLR]

It doesn;t matter if he's in his own house or not. When the cops tell you to do something you shut up and DO IT !!!!!! He clearly advanced towards the officers in a threatening manner. Then after they tazed him he wouldn't stop resisting. he just simply refused to stop resisting.My question is who let the cops in the house? What was he being detained for? The man was not resisting, but had legitimate questions that the police refused to answer, at least from what I saw on the tape. So now it's okay to have police come into your home, and taze you if you are in their minds "non-compliant"?

If that is the way things are now, what happened to the man on the tape could happen to me or you. If that is what this country has become, I don't think I want to live in this country anymore.

[kc7jty]

My question is who let the cops in the house? What was he being detained for? The man was not resisting, but had legitimate questions that the police refused to answer, at least from what I saw on the tape. So now it's okay to have police come into your home, and taze you if you are in their minds "non-compliant"?

If that is the way things are now, what happened to the man on the tape could happen to me or you. If that is what this country has become, I don't think I want to live in this country anymore.
my guess is the door was unlocked and they just came in.
another reason to always lock your doors.

They were going to take him to the hospital. That place is $6k/day and up.

[n2ize]

my guess is the door was unlocked and they just came in.
another reason to always lock your doors.

They were going to take him to the hospital. That place is $6k/day and up.

He also has the legal right to refuse treatment. But then the cops probably would have taken him to jail.

[n2ize]

My question is who let the cops in the house? What was he being detained for? The man was not resisting, but had legitimate questions that the police refused to answer, at least from what I saw on the tape. So now it's okay to have police come into your home, and taze you if you are in their minds "non-compliant"?

These days "compliant" means following every order the cops give you immediatly with no hesitation and with no question whatsoever. Anything else is deemed non-compliant and is considered either resisting or threatening.

This, in the video when they told him to put his hands behind his back he was resisting the instant that he did not comply.

The cops expect instantaneous full compliance and full submission no questions asked.




If that is the way things are now, what happened to the man on the tape could happen to me or you. If that is what this country has become, I don't think I want to live in this country anymore.

yes it can, and for the simplest thing. A cop can come to you about something as trivial as a dog license application. Simply questioning whatever he tells you could quickly accelerate to a tasing. A simple question over a parking violation can wind up in a tasing. A lot of people think these things happen only over serious crimes involving violent hard core criminals. Nope, not at all. The taser is used on everyday law abiding citizens in their own home. It's used against 4 year old children, 26 year old men, and 90 year old Grandma's and Grandpa's, often in their own home/property. And yes, it can happen to any one of us when we least expect it.

[KA5PIU]

Hello.

I was on a US government facility a short while back when a cop (reserve) and his sidekick tried that.
I was told to hand them a weapon.
It has since been made very clear that this facility is the property of the US and any such actions may be met with lethal force.
It is pretty bad when the feds are saying that the local cops are out of hand.
And I have been instructed that I am to carry live from this point on, and carry.
The pair were given the option, face federal felony charges or resign and agree to refrain from carrying any firearms for 5 years as well as not entering this facility without prior clearance for 10.
This attitude of some departments has become unacceptable, and yes, it is the department that sets the policy, most cops simply try and conform.
Look at the departments around you and you will see that they pretty much conform, it is more than simply a uniform thing, it is training and policy.

[KG4CGC]

It doesn;t matter if he's in his own house or not. When the cops tell you to do something you shut up and DO IT !!!!!! He clearly advanced towards the officers in a threatening manner. Then after they tazed him he wouldn't stop resisting. he just simply refused to stop resisting.
Why is that John? Is it because they're scared of people that they generally beat without provocation? Well, aren't the cops the provocateurs?

[KA5PIU]

Why is that John? Is it because they're scared of people that they generally beat without provocation? Well, aren't the cops the provocateurs?

Hello.

Fact, it was a police officer who fired a TASER at a secret service agent in San Antonio.
Fact, it was a police officer who fired a round at a security detail in Houston, with the King of Saudi Arabia present.
Fact, it was a police officer who pulled a firearm on me at a military installation.
In every case the officers were following policy.
Cops do what they are told, there really is very little advance thought in the actions.
The training is to gain control of the situation, not walk away.
In this case the correct course of action would have been to simply leave the area.
Here is an example.
Lets say any number of police officers arrive on location only to discover a very powerful bomb.
Do the cops hang around? of course not, they call in specialists, the bomb squad.
Now contrast this with a guy contemplating suicide, do we need a generic response or would a mental health unit have been better?
The old 'Men in white coats' was the response in the past, what do we have now?

[KG4CGC]

Hello.

Fact, it was a police officer who fired a TASER at a secret service agent in San Antonio.
Fact, it was a police officer who fired a round at a security detail in Houston, with the King of Saudi Arabia present.
Fact, it was a police officer who pulled a firearm on me at a military installation.
In every case the officers were following policy.
Cops do what they are told, there really is very little advance thought in the actions.
The training is to gain control of the situation, not walk away.
In this case the correct course of action would have been to simply leave the area.
Here is an example.
Lets say any number of police officers arrive on location only to discover a very powerful bomb.
Do the cops hang around? of course not, they call in specialists, the bomb squad.
Now contrast this with a guy contemplating suicide, do we need a generic response or would a mental health unit have been better?
The old 'Men in white coats' was the response in the past, what do we have now?
You took the long way around to get to a good point.