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PA5COR
08-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Dutch Legacy
The Netherlands hasn't only been on the receiving end of culinary influences, but also left its mark behind in former colonies and territories. So, for instance, the oliebol and its cousin, the apple fritter, were taken to the New World by early Dutch settlers, where they evolved into the donut. There is a saying in the USA, as American as apple pie but it really would be more accurate to say, as Dutch as apple pie (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/breadspastriescookies/r/ApplePie.htm), because early cookbooks show that the Dutch have been baking them since before the USA even existed.
Pancakes (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/mainmeals/r/BaconPancakes.htm) are eaten all over the world now, but they seem especially popular in the USA and South Africa (another former colony), where they are considered as big a part of the national identity as they are in their 'motherland' (of course, many other countries have tried to claim this honor, too). The Dutch also gave South Africa its beloved milk tart, koeksusters and vetkoek (both based on the oliebol), and soetkoekies (cookies that are similar to speculaas (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/breadspastriescookies/r/Spicedcookies.htm)). Speaking of which, did you know that the Dutch introduced the cookie to North America? In fact, even the word cookie owes its etymology to the Dutch word koekje.
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/tp/10DutchFoodIcons.htm
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/tp/10DutchFoodIcons.01.htm
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/u/TraditionalDutchFood.htm
With recipe's just click the links.
Bon Appetit
;)
W3MIV
08-18-2010, 02:29 PM
A tip of the Albi hat, Cor, and a cool Grolsch to celebrate all those Dutch delicacies. (Prefer cool, but downed many at "room temperature.") You Hollaender still beat the Germans on bier.
PA5COR
08-18-2010, 02:37 PM
No problem Albi.
When i still drank beer, i visited our neighbours the Germans a lot, their more local beers are quite good, their more known export beers are less...
Stopped drinking all alcoholic beverages at the ripe age of 28 or so, driving large trucks with 40 metric tons of beer around through Europe ( Amstel/Heineken)
A job i did for 6 years, and got a taste of most European food ;)
No offense intended, Cor, but speaking as a beer snob in recovery who at one time would not drink anything but imported beer, I will now put a good American microbrewed beer right up with the best of Europe.
The swill from any of the big U.S. brewers such as A-B or Miller, of course, shouldn't even be classified as beer.
Stopped drinking all alcoholic beverages at the ripe age of 28 or so, driving large trucks with 40 metric tons of beer around through Europe ( Amstel/Heineken)
A job i did for 6 years, and got a taste of most European food ;)
I've done the same thing here in the U.S. Used to pick up Tecate beer at the Mexican border and take it all over the country. Don't ask me why--I wouldn't touch a can of that stuff with a ten-foot Pole. Or even a six-foot Czech.
KC2UGV
08-18-2010, 02:45 PM
Who is responsible for cake?
PA5COR
08-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Cake is a term with a long history (the word is of Viking origin, from the Old Norse kaka) and denotes a baked flour confection sweetened with sugar or honey; it is mixed with eggs and often, but not invariably, with milk and fat; and it has a porous texture from the mixture rising during cooking. It is not surprising that the frontiers between cake and bread, biscuit and bun are indistinct. The progenitor of all is bread in its simplest form. As techniques for baking and leavening developed, and eating patterns changed, what were originally regarded as froms of bread came to be seen as categories of their own and named accordingly. Certain Roman breads, enriched with eggs and butter, must have achieved a cakelike consistency and thus approached one of these indistinct frontiers.;)
Who is responsible for cake?
"The cake is a lie!"
PA5COR
08-18-2010, 03:15 PM
You do realize that lots of US brands are now owned by Netherlands brewers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heineken_brands
Just one example, Inbev (Belgian) bought up another gaggle of US breweries
No offense intended, Cor, but speaking as a beer snob in recovery who at one time would not drink anything but imported beer, I will now put a good American microbrewed beer right up with the best of Europe.
The swill from any of the big U.S. brewers such as A-B or Miller, of course, shouldn't even be classified as beer.
kc7jty
08-18-2010, 04:41 PM
No offense intended, Cor, but speaking as a beer snob in recovery who at one time would not drink anything but imported beer, I will now put a good American microbrewed beer right up with the best of Europe.
The swill from any of the big U.S. brewers such as A-B or Miller, of course, shouldn't even be classified as beer.
and you live in the beer capital of the USA. I've been to O'Briens & The Liars Club when it was at Mission Beach.
kc7jty
08-18-2010, 04:43 PM
http://developmentalidealism.org/img/art/Jan-Vermeer_milkMaid_f.jpg
There are many good things Dutch.
KG4CGC
08-18-2010, 08:51 PM
Let us not overlook, the Dutch Oven.
A good cast iron Dutch oven on a camping trip, buried in the coals of well maintained fire pit. It is a thing of not only beauty but sheer, perfected, functionality.
kc7jty
08-18-2010, 09:22 PM
hell, yes. and don't forget the Dutch treat.
hell, yes. and don't forget the Dutch treat.
Or Dutch Courage!
KG4CGC
08-18-2010, 09:39 PM
http://forums.hamisland.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by kc7jty http://forums.hamisland.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://forums.hamisland.net/showthread.php?p=253936#post253936)
hell, yes. and don't forget the Dutch treat.
Or Dutch Courage!
Or the Dutch Finger Dyke!
W4RLR
08-19-2010, 02:41 AM
My wife and kids use use that mayonnaise stuff that comes in a tube instead of ketchup on their pommes frites (french fries in Americanese) Thankfully we can get it through the base commissary. Lots of Dutch and German treats we got used to by living there. Some of the best chicken I ever had came from a restaurant in Barneveld, The Netherlands. The place had a big chicken out front.
Of all of the things I miss about Europe, it's the food I miss the most.
KC2UGV
08-19-2010, 08:00 AM
hell, yes. and don't forget the Dutch treat.
Or Dutch Courage!
Or the Dutch Finger Dyke!
Or the Dutch Rudder!
KC2UGV
08-19-2010, 08:02 AM
"The cake is a lie!"
http://www.jeremyprivett.com/images/the-cake-is-a-lie.png
PA5COR
08-19-2010, 08:03 AM
Must have been the "yellow cake" Bush told us Iraq had bought...
kc7jty
08-19-2010, 08:09 PM
Of all of the things I miss about Europe, it's the food I miss the most.
It's a real shame more don't feel the same. The food we have to do with here in the states is absolutely PATHETIC at best.
w3bny
08-20-2010, 10:19 AM
I thought a dutch oven was when you held your S.O's head under the blankies...
VE7DCW
08-22-2010, 12:39 AM
Dutch Legacy
The Netherlands hasn't only been on the receiving end of culinary influences, but also left its mark behind in former colonies and territories. So, for instance, the oliebol and its cousin, the apple fritter, were taken to the New World by early Dutch settlers, where they evolved into the donut. There is a saying in the USA, as American as apple pie but it really would be more accurate to say, as Dutch as apple pie (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/breadspastriescookies/r/ApplePie.htm), because early cookbooks show that the Dutch have been baking them since before the USA even existed.
Pancakes (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/mainmeals/r/BaconPancakes.htm) are eaten all over the world now, but they seem especially popular in the USA and South Africa (another former colony), where they are considered as big a part of the national identity as they are in their 'motherland' (of course, many other countries have tried to claim this honor, too). The Dutch also gave South Africa its beloved milk tart, koeksusters and vetkoek (both based on the oliebol), and soetkoekies (cookies that are similar to speculaas (http://dutchfood.about.com/od/breadspastriescookies/r/Spicedcookies.htm)). Speaking of which, did you know that the Dutch introduced the cookie to North America? In fact, even the word cookie owes its etymology to the Dutch word koekje.
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/tp/10DutchFoodIcons.htm
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/tp/10DutchFoodIcons.01.htm
http://dutchfood.about.com/od/aboutdutchcooking/u/TraditionalDutchFood.htm
With recipe's just click the links.
Bon Appetit
;)
What more can you say than..... "echt Hollandse" :yes:
73
W1GUH
08-25-2010, 12:08 PM
koeksusters? Had to read it 2 or thee times, then use google-fu to find out what it is. But on a fast reading...it's kinda like Coxsackie. (http://www.coxsackie.org/)
Whatever else the Dutch gave us pales in importance to what, IMHO, is the best thing EVER imported into the US. That would be New Amsterdam. Curse the Brits for changing the name!!! Well, they could get rid of the name but not the soul. Thanks!
Who here has tasted limburger cheese? Is it good enough to get by the...ahem...bouquet? It's country of origin seems to be confusing. Some sites say it's German, other say it's Dutch, others say the region it's named after was in Holland, Belgium, and Germany.
PA5COR
08-25-2010, 12:12 PM
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hervekaas Sorry, Dutch language.
Remember that Belgium and Luxembourgh were once just part of the low countries.
Or the Dutch Rudder!
Dutch treat?
kc7jty
08-26-2010, 02:46 AM
http://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/im000394.JPG
Dutch girl
W3MIV
08-26-2010, 05:29 AM
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Dutch Schultz.
KG4CGC
08-26-2010, 05:57 AM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/bebop5/AL2N%20High%20Point%20NC%20feb%2015%202009/313d-Flying-DutchmanB.jpg
W1GUH
08-26-2010, 07:29 AM
http://www.britannica.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mousethatroared.gif
Grand Duchy of Fenwick
PA5COR
08-26-2010, 12:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgL5SXgicQk
Modern Dutch dress.
;)
W3MIV
08-26-2010, 12:57 PM
Oranje Bouwen!
KG4CGC
08-26-2010, 01:23 PM
In the US, those women would be charged with conspiracy to incite rioting.
Modern Dutch dress.
;)
They dance pretty well in those sabots, Cor!
PA5COR
08-26-2010, 02:43 PM
^^ Thought you liked that one.
So predictable isn't it :lol:
Yep, they were a riot at the football matches.
Oranje boven...:-D
kc7jty
08-26-2010, 03:56 PM
In the US, those women would be charged with conspiracy to incite rioting.
...and beaten with clubs.
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